Yuta Okkotsu vs Alex Mercer [Stomp for Latter]

[Apotheosis69]

Rules​

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• "Shinjuku Showdown" Yuta Okkotsu and "Prototype 2 End-Game" Alex Mercer are used.
  • As such, Alex Mercer starts at Low 7-C through his Musclemass Multiplier (3x).
  • Alex's Lifting Strength is at absolute Maximum from his Calculation, 41,590 tons (Then 3x with his Musclemass).
  • Alex has his Force Multiplier abilities.
• Speed is equalized.
• Battle takes place at Shinjuku.
• Yuta have Full Prior Knowledge of Alex's powers and abilities. While Alex goes in completely blind.

Statistics Values​

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	Yuta Okkotsu	Alex Mercer
Attack Potency/Striking Strength/Durability	>1.32039 Kilotons, higher with Rika. All higher with Domain Expansion and/or Black Flash	>1.4412 Kilotons, even higher with Devastators
Lifting Strength	>125,959.27947 Metric Tons	>124,770 Metric Tons

Music​

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Votes​

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The Cursed Child (Yuta)

The Blacklight Virus (Alex)

Inconclusive​

 

[DeathNoodles]

... What? And Prototype 2 Mercer as well?

Uh, Mercer gasses.

With prior knowledge, Mercer is just going to double down on gassing even more until Yuta gets infected, since this same prior knowledge would let him know that Yuta has no actual solid way to counteract it - and it doesn't help that Mercer's Immortality and Regeneration means Yuta also has no solid way to put him down. Yuta might have abilities like Cursed Speech, but even that has its limits, and he won't be able to use it forever. So, all Yuta could do is delay the inevitable with Cursed Speech and other abilities listed in his profile.

There was a similar thread with Gojo Satoru vs. Alex Mercer somewhere, and there was no solid argument for Gojo (who, back then, somewhat had a win condition with Hollow Purple being able to erase stuff—which it no longer has now due to JJK CRTs, and thus Gojo no longer has any win conditions. Granted, it was teen Gojo, but with Hollow Purple no longer having the necessary scans to erase stuff, then not even adult Gojo could make a difference) winning back then.

So, I have a question: If even Gojo had a hard time against Mercer from a previous thread, how would Yuta fare any better? XD

 

[09Kayson09]

Alex FRA

 

[Unlucky2362]

... What? And Prototype 2 Mercer as well?

Uh, Mercer gasses.

With prior knowledge, Mercer is just going to double down on gassing even more until Yuta gets infected, since this same prior knowledge would let him know that Yuta has no actual solid way to counteract it - and it doesn't help that Mercer's Immortality and Regeneration means Yuta also has no solid way to put him down. Yuta might have abilities like Cursed Speech, but even that has its limits, and he won't be able to use it forever. So, all Yuta could do is delay the inevitable with Cursed Speech and other abilities listed in his profile.

There was a similar thread with Gojo Satoru vs. Alex Mercer somewhere, and there was no solid argument for Gojo (who, back then, somewhat had a win condition with Hollow Purple being able to erase stuff—which it no longer has now due to JJK CRTs, and thus Gojo no longer has any win conditions. Granted, it was teen Gojo, but with Hollow Purple no longer having the necessary scans to erase stuff, then not even adult Gojo could make a difference) winning back then.

So, I have a question: If even Gojo had a hard time against Mercer from a previous thread, how would Yuta fare any better? XD

Doesn't Yuta at least have a chance? Won't his Domain Expansion and Foresight Give Him a Chance? If there are answers to this, Alex will crush him.

 

[DeathNoodles]

Doesn't Yuta at least have a chance? Won't his Domain Expansion and Foresight Give Him a Chance? If there are answers to this, Alex will crush him.

... No?

Because those won't permanently put him down. And if they don't put Mercer down, he would just regenerate and come back, and then Mercer would just gas everything until Yuta eventually gets infected.

Plus, Charles' Cursed Technique (the Future Sight ability) needs to draw the opponent's blood for it to work, and then mark the opponent with a manga panel, and good luck trying to do that when Mercer's blood could just absorb (or infect) whatever is trying to draw it from Mercer's own body.

Basically, as I've mentioned above, all Yuta can do is delay the inevitable... And that inevitability is Yuta getting infected by Mercer. ^_^;

 

[Unlucky2362]

... No?

Because those won't permanently put him down. And if they don't put Mercer down, he would just regenerate and come back, and then Mercer would just gas everything until Yuta eventually gets infected.

Plus, Charles' Cursed Technique (the Future Sight ability) needs to draw the opponent's blood for it to work, and then mark the opponent with a manga panel, and good luck trying to do that when Mercer's blood could just absorb (or infect) whatever is trying to draw it from Mercer's own body.

Basically, as I've mentioned above, all Yuta can do is delay the inevitable... And that inevitability is Yuta getting infected by Mercer. ^_^;

Well, I guess I don't see anything wrong. Alex FRA

 

[Deceived3596]

Alex FRA

 

[Apotheosis69]

Would changing the Key of Alex Mercer make it any better?

And Yuta with Reverse Cursed Technique has Purification (Type 1, Molecular) so can he remove the Virus

 

[DeathNoodles]

Would changing the Key of Alex Mercer make it any better?

And Yuta with Reverse Cursed Technique has Purification (Type 1, Molecular) so can he remove the Virus

No, because all it does is change Mercer's in-character first moves to Absorption via touch instead, and Mercer actually outranges Yuta with some of his Devastators outside of maybe Yuta's Cursed Speech; a single touch with any of his biomass is all Mercer needs to absorb Yuta near-instantaneously. And Yuta has no reliable way to permanently take out Mercer for good, even with Mercer under a different key, due to Mercer's Immortality and Regeneration.

You're not exactly allowed to add abilities (including the mechanics of abilities) that aren't present in character profiles unless you intend to make the matchup invalid and unable to be added to the characters' profiles - that's just how the rules work in this site.

 

[Apotheosis69]

You're not exactly allowed to add abilities (including the mechanics of abilities) that aren't present in character profiles unless you intend to make the matchup invalid and unable to be added to the characters' profiles - that's just how the rules work in this site.

Yuta has literally healed and "purified" Naoya from Choso's poison which functions from his very blood cells.

He can do it

 

[Foriaa]

Is Warp Vortex passive?

 

[Apotheosis69]

Its activated

 

[Foriaa]

Its activated

How long can it last, and can he use it multiple times in a fight?

 

[Apotheosis69]

I'm not sure. Can prob look up a video of it.

And even then Rika can grab Yuta and get him away.

 

[Foriaa]

And even then Rika can grab Yuta and get him away.

If we assume he can, Rika lasting for 5 minutes is bad no?

 

[DeathNoodles]

Yuta has literally healed and "purified" Naoya from Choso's poison which functions from his very blood cells.

He can do it

None of which are actually poisonous because of chemical compositions, they are poisonous because of Choso's heritage from his ties to the Death Painting Womb, which are Cursed Spirits with Cursed Energy - so his blood is poisonous primarily because of the Cursed Spirit heritage that comes with the Cursed Energy.

And even if we assume the purification works at the cellular level and can work on chemical poisons that aren't based on Cursed Energy (which, if I recall correctly, no Sorcerer actually has any scans or statements of using their abilities to cure chemical poisons that aren't based on Cursed Energy), that wouldn't matter because the Blacklight Virus works at the molecular level - and it has layered Biological Manipulation and Disease Manipulation hax that works even on victims that have resistance to molecular-level Biological/Disease Manipulation as well... That also includes the Blacklight Virus being gaining adaptations that allows it to resist the Parasite (which the Parasite was able to infect an entity completely made of nothing but viruses and virions, such as Mercer himself) and even being able to infect Whitelight itself (and Whitelight is meant to be the cure to the Blacklight Virus... Yet, it got infected anyways).

Molecular-level hax > Cellular-level hax every time. There's also the facts that the Blacklight Virus aren't poisons, they're diseases (specifically, viruses), so they also work fundamentally differently from poisons. Curing poisons isn't necessarily the same as curing diseases after all.

So, nothing says Yuta can try to purify the Blacklight Virus and be shocked that it doesn't work due to the Blacklight Virus resisting its attempt to cure it.

And that doesn't even take into consideration that the Blacklight Virus itself has Reactive Evolution - so, even if somehow the purification can inconvenience Mercer, nothing says the Blacklight Virus can't eventually just adapt (which, can take up to seconds or even over a minute based on the feat of the Hunter with compatible DNA resisting the Parasite feat, which Mercer absorbed and gained the Reactive Evolution abilities of) and have Yuta's Purification attempts become ineffective by the end of it.

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Force Multipliers

Oh, okay, Medusa's Wrath blitzes and one-shots Yuta or Yuta just gets passively transformed into a mindless zombie at complete random just by being around Alex.

 

[TheAngryOrange]

I'm going with Mercer here.

 

[Apotheosis69]

Then no matter if I restrict Mercer's Force Multiplier DLC abilities. Or change his Key.

It will be a complete stomp either way?

 

[DeathNoodles]

Then no matter if I restrict Mercer's Force Multiplier DLC abilities. Or change his Key.

It will be a complete stomp either way?

... It seems like it.

In his current profile, all of Mercer's keys still have the same degree of Immortality and Regeneration, along with the same hax of Absorbing people via touch near-instantaneously.

Most people don't know it, but Mercer is the type of character that is difficult to find matchups for without it becoming a stomp in either his favour or his opponent's favour, and the matchups that exist that are relatively fair/balanced enough to be added to both character profiles are very few and far between.

In this site, especially, he is a "stomp or be stomped" character. ^_^;

 

[Apotheosis69]

Sigh

Another one bites the dust I suppose...

I just want a good ol Fight in this wiki