I don't really know how powerful Reaver's enemies are in the levels or how he gets ****** in them
Sinclaire is the first boss in the game, and they later become a common enemy, spawning in nearly every room in groups. Forsakens are such a threat that Kate is like "dawg you haven’t been reduced to base particles yet?" after he finishes the first level. And yea some of them scale to him to some extent and are genuinely terrifying with how much they spam their bullet hells.
but outlasting a gauntlet wouldn't necessarily be the same as outlasting another opponent in direct combat, which is the case here. Black Sun has outlasted against Shadowmoon
in their final confrontation to the death, and
took a whole lot of punishment from him and still
came out the victor. Keep in mind that Shadowmoon is
completely superior to Black Sun and upscales his stats. More often than not (hell, even 100%), Black Sun is coming out of this battle of attrition alive, possibly even relatively unscathed thanks to his defensive ability set.
Both are outlasting, i don’t even know how you can think they’re different. Anyway, all of this falls under pain tolerance, like I said, not endurance exertion, which is something that Reaver guy really excels at. He can reduce the external damage all he wants, he’s still going to get injured enough and worn down by all the piercing explosive shots Reaver throws at him.
Ok, let me break down Black Sun's ES and ESP combo for you.
Black Sun's Kaijin form has this:
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As such, this combo works like a pseudo-analytical prediction to aid Black Sun in combat. You know this shit is real when this allowed Black Sun and Shadowmoon to stand a chance against Deltarune characters with danmaku projectiles. Unless Reaver's packing some real big AOE shit like what John Combat has, Black Sun can deal with his projectiles.
Ah yes all statements. I think it's pretty clear they all have limitations and it’s not like he can constantly keep up with his senses, and he’s just above average in combat hmm?
(you should remove the rating from pfps btw) Also I love how you bring up the characters he’s fought as if their danmaku is THAT impressive. Like cmon, it’s Berdly, iirc his best danmaku are just the damn A+ paper tests and those spear or arrow things that barely track. I mean yeah they’re not bad, but Reaver’s danmaku is the kind that leaves no room to dodge between bullets, and his aim is absurdly better than any current character in Deltarune. Do not underestimate Superhuman Precision users, you will lose.
Also speaking of weapons, any help with this?
Revolvers and Shotguns are the only ones that have 3 variants, and I think you can choose whichever you prefer since they should be similarly effective in this fight.
True, but wouldn't that just (funnily enough), give Black Sun more breathing room from the pesky projectiles? Explosions can also give Black Sun some sight-cover via the smokescreen, while also being more noticeable than other projectiles to deal with.
Black Sun will need a serious showing if he wants to properly dodge all of Reaver’s projectiles.
His explosions don’t actually produce that much smoke, and like, this is the guy who can do V1's precisely shoots at vital points of ******* teleportation spammers within line of sight without actually looking at them yadda yadda type of shit so
And wdym by “more noticeable”? They’re just rockets and grenades, still projectiles and the like, unless you meant something else.
Also, he can just swing his motorcycle to like deflect them away, and any projectile hitting the driver seat wouldn't be able to ricochet due to absorbing the force behind the attacks.
Just don’t shoot at the driver’s seat, he can figure that out after a few tries or one.
Black Sun usually goes for grappling the neck or the torso, and even if he targets the arms, it's only to naturally segway to that point. Also, the robotic arms are pretty easy to spot and if he does remove the arms, he'd remove both instead of settling for one.
Then I hope you’re not seriously expecting him to grab Reaver that easily when he while using weapons gets in close range for maybe a second at most before immediately backing off.
Firstly, speed equal. Reaver being fast enough to dodge Plutus's attacks is going to matter diddly-squat when his combat speed is going to be reduced to equalise with Black Sun's. Secondly, Black Sun himself is able to fight against Shadowmoon, whose stats upscale from Black Sun. Reaver will lose if he gets even a toe into Black Sun's range.
I figure Black Sun throwing things is to zone Reaver out, and it wouldn't really be too much of a hassle to do so anyway, since his LS allows him to just rip out or take whatever he needs for throwing purposes. Also, the ES + ESP combo will come in clutch for his aim, especially when he throws his sword or even ******* jumps right at him.
Reaver isn’t fast enough to dodge
Plutus, that’s not even what I said, the guy’s at a speed disadvantage and his opponent can effectively use all of his abilities to **** the guy up. But Reaver still survives because he’s a dodge god, simply put.
This shit is on the pfp, he can dodge through a lot of heavy homing projectiles and literal walls of bullets with barely any space between them. Black Sun can sense danger and it still takes action to counter them with grappling and stuff like that. You mfs are acting like Reaver don't have a good chance to avoid these.
I just don’t see how throwing objects and jumping at Reaver would effectively zone him, when his own acrobatics are already borderline Flight and he can effortlessly stay at a safe range most of the time.
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