Tensura Isekai Memories Author Content Canonicity

[PrimeHydra64]

Isekai Memories for a while now has had some content that adds additional information about how certain mechanics works and about certain characters as it largely follows the anime with its main story with its own story content being it's own separate thing that is detached from the main story.

So, my proposal is to have it be allowed to use as evidence for CRTs for the Light Novel Continuity.
For example, the newest event adds an original story from fuse himself about the mechanics of the spirit armaments and even how Jaune (Carrera) used it in the past adding additional content to the original story and not the Isekai Memories specific story e.g. Shinsha or Izis.

Most of these stories expand on already established concepts that were introduced in the light novel:

• Alternate timelines due to Chloe's constant looping and showing up to fix the timeline when rimuru didn't give Chloe the mask.
• Diablo's Interview which expands on both his infatuation with Rimuru and personal interpretation of time and of the Anti-Magic Mask with its abnormal properties.
• Veldora's Observation Journal when he is about to be released.
• More information on Violet and Jaune and also why Jaune keeps targeting Leon Cromwell and El Dorado.
• And more information of Spirit Armaments and by extension Holy Armaments and that Jaune stole one and corrupted it.

Hidden Episode​

• In Dark Horizon Event it shows an alternate timeline where Rimuru dies in Hinata's ambush and it took him 3 years to regenerate. However by then it was too late and was revealed that those in the barrier were killed. Desperate, Rimuru pleads for help and Noir helps him out by suggesting him to become Demon Lord with Great Sage suggesting in using the souls of his fallen. After becoming a True Demon Lord Rimuru and his subordinates rampage across the world as payback with Veldora helping out once freed.
• When playing "Beauty Makes Her Move" in Normal and Hard another story reveals another timeline where Rimuru didn't give Chloe the mask when he left Englassia and lost it when his body double got destroyed in the Disintegration, there Rimuru gets ambushed by the Masked Hero. However she uses Reverse Fate to fix it by sending his soul back in time to ensure he gives Chloe the mask. If the player looses the battle, despite fighting Rimuru ultimately was overpowered and is killed by her Reverse Fate. However if the player manages to defeat her in battle, Great Sage concludes they know her from before as the Masked Hero said says he ready for what it takes and give him an sword instead.

Original Author Scenario Series​

• Interview with Diablo
• The One Unleashed Veldora's Slime Observation Journal
• Maid in Tempest
• Interview with Violet
• Interview with Jaune
• Miss Shizu's Lecture on Japan
• Let's Learn About Elemental Armaments

Source: https://tensura.fandom.com/wiki/Tha...EKAI_Memories#Original_Author_Scenario_Series

TLDR: Isekai Memories Original Author Scenarios and any other content directly written by Fuse can be used as evidence when providing justifications in the Light Novel Continuity as these stories expand to the content of the light novel.

Edit: this would fall under Secondary canon and any CRTs made that uses it for justification would have to abide by its specific rules specified here:

Canon

Canon is a term used to designate works that are generally accepted as the genuine work that apply to the fictional verse. With few possible exceptions only canon material is featured in the character pages, with non-canon material to be ignored. The generally agreed-upon definition is that the...

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Agree: Mr. Bambu, Celestial_Pegasus, KingTempest
Disagree:
Neutral:

 

[Violatas]

Gahhhh mobile game
Sadly agree I guess.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

I am honestly unsure about this, and would love to hear if this even even allowed or not. Something that needs to be stated is that only explanations and mechanics can be used as "supporting evidence", and not primary ones. (While this is clearly the internet any damn holes will leak.)

Though yeah, I would support the idea of using the games to fill in holes for the LN.

 

[MetaChronos]

If there are not any major differences between the game and LN, I'll say I agree.

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

If there are not any major differences between the game and LN, I'll say I agree.

It's only regarding mechanics, and further explanations for abilities and events.

All stuff that is "new" to the games will not be considered acceptable to the LN under any terms.

 

[Violatas]

I am honestly unsure about this, and would love to hear if this even even allowed or not.

Case by case basis for verses and whatever adaptation they wanna add. This one doesn't seem to contradict main canon, is written by Fuse, and seems to expand on already established concepts. To answer the question, yeah this is allowed.
(IIRC even the Slime movie is technically canon but Fuse just didn't have time to fit it into the LN)
I don't like mobile games but unfortunately I think this one can justifiably fit.

 

[MetaChronos]

It's only regarding mechanics, and further explanations for abilities and events.

All stuff that is "new" to the games will not be considered acceptable to the LN under any terms.

Yeah. I mean I don't agree with the new part but the similarities between LN and the game can be used for some context clarifications I suppose.

 

[Violatas]

I'm fine the Original Author Scenarios at the minimum as long as it doesn't contradict canon.
Assuming this gets accepted we can just work out what we can add I guess. Definitely not the crossover events because lmao

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Nor any of the new characters, abilities, and structures.

 

[Violatas]

Nor any of the new characters, abilities, and structures.

I'd prolly opt to judge these on a case by case since the listed Hidden Episodes seem canon, but I see what you mean.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

These stories build off the main story which is essentially just the anime and not the game-specific one so they should be alright.
And it isn't uncommon that Fuse adds stuff from spin offs to add to the main light novel, Hypnos is a spell that only showed up in Clayman's Revenge when Raine used it and then it appeared in Volume 22 and Framea the bunny girl from Ways of the Monster Nation being mentioned by her father in Volume 8 and not to mention movie characters and the Trinity in Tempest MCs appearing in the manga.

 

[Mr. Bambu]

Without a reason to actively disregard these, it's probably fine to use them. If it isn't contradictory, probably fine.

It's tertiary evidence though, so if something can be justified within the contexts of the central canon, I'd advise using that as evidence over this, as a rule of thumb.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Without a reason to actively disregard these, it's probably fine to use them. If it isn't contradictory, probably fine.

It's tertiary evidence though, so if something can be justified within the contexts of the central canon, I'd advise using that as evidence over this, as a rule of thumb.

I'll put a little edit to clarify it's tertiary canon status

 

[Mr. Bambu]

I'll put a little edit to clarify it's tertiary canon status

Would you believe me if I said I forgot we even had a page for canon, and that I was simply using the term to refer to something vaguely below Secondary Canon?

Per our page's definition of the phrases, this would probably be classified as Secondary Canon and can be treated as such, it was merely my opinion that this is a step lower in the priority chain compared to other instances of Secondary Canon. My bad, lad.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Would you believe me if I said I forgot we even had a page for canon, and that I was simply using the term to refer to something vaguely below Secondary Canon?

Per our page's definition of the phrases, this would probably be classified as Secondary Canon and can be treated as such, it was merely my opinion that this is a step lower in the priority chain compared to other instances of Secondary Canon. My bad, lad.

Nah its alright, I changed it to secondary instead

 

[Mizuki67]

yes, what is canon is people interview and some story lines attached to main plot of the game, like chloe time travel sequence. Tho the game adds stuff but things like abilities of characters and other things were picked out of the LN which IS canon, so i agree.

 

[PrimeHydra64]

Bump

 

[Violatas]

I'll try asking some more staff
This doesn't seem controversial though so 2 staff votes will prolly be fine unless someone wants to contest this

 

[PrimeHydra64]

I'll try asking some more staff
This doesn't seem controversial though so 2 staff votes will prolly be fine unless someone wants to contest this

Thank You

 

[Celestial_Pegasus]

Seems fine as secondary canon.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

Two admin votes ,so this has passed

 

[Violatas]

Gotta wait 24 hours at least now, but yeah.

 

[The_golden_and_silver_house94]

The 24hrs starts when the thread was posted but its alright to wait

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

To be honest, this would require a 48-hour grace period. Something that has already passed.

 

[KingTempest]

Makes enough sense