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Another Kamen Rider Eternal and Falchion Revision, Because Why Not?

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More stuff missing in both Eternal and Falchion's profiles that are biting our ass, so I'm adding them in.
Translations are courtesy of the Kamen Rider Wiki

Kamen Rider Eternal
Kamen Rider Falchion
 
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Translations are courtesy of the Kamen Rider Wiki
Translations should be fact checked by one of our translators first.
Kamen Rider Eternal
That isn't a resistance to anything? It's just exhausting excess energy to prevent self destruction. If something randomly forced him to spontaneously explode, it's work just fine.
Are these key'd, passive or active?
It's one or the other.
If it nulls it, it isn't resistance as the thing in question is negated.
If it's resistance, well it ain't power null because the thing in question is still there.

Also it doesn't say All T2 Gaia Memory Abilities get negated. It simply says it will interfere with their energies, to what degree, it doesn't specify.
Need a feat of him using it and it actively failing.
We don't give resistances just for fighting someone who has an ability unless stated.
This is fine but you should give an actual clip of it too.
As before, ok if not contradicted but preferably a showing of it.
Though that translation is kinda suspect, it doesn't say "with a thought", it says according to his will, which might mean the same thing but that's some damning liberties taken.
That isn't resistance to fear manipulation. It just says they don't fear death. That's a super common trope in media in general.
It doesn't say they're incapable of fear either. It doesn't say they're unable to be affected by things that induce fear.
Should be fine if it isn't contradicted.
It would seem, if it isn't contradicted.
What?
"The trigger of the Nameless Sword Kyomu.
Receiving the swordsman's input, the Nameless Sword Kyomu interprets their intent and serves as the starter mechanism for various attacks."

Has NOTHING to do with something being thought based? It reads his thoughts it would seem, to then initiate and start attacks. The sword still has to read them, interpret his intent, and even then still make the attack. There's an extra step involved, seemingly 2.
Add the clip and citation but that should be fine.
Should be is not is. You need a statement saying they're made of the same thing.
Additionally, you need to prove it's that specific trait that enables the resistance in the first place.
Lastly that wouldn't be resistance to durability negation (Literally not a thing due to how much that encompasses), but resistance to plasma manipulation.
 
I have next to nothing knowledge of the verse, so I'll provide input based on what I can take at face value.
Most of the things sound fine, but I have to chime in on a few:

  • I don't think the first counts as proper Resistance to Self-Destruction, if one can even resist such an ability. It's just the mechanical purpose of an exhaust system, to prevent the machine's failure, so it's a failsafe, not a special way to resist some kind of self-destruction induction in a proper way, I don't know how to say it. It technically can be applied to every machine, which are designed to not destroy themselves. Energy manipulation is fine, though.
  • I'm not sure the Eternal Cloak counts as Resistance to the T2 Gaia Memory abilities. It says it interferes with them, so it seemingly causes them to malfuction, rather than offering direct protection against them. I believe Power Nullification to be enough.
  • I don't see the Resistance to Info Analysis, I believe you forgot to add a scan.
  • I would swap ESP for Enhanced Senses, idk, the Trident Feeler is referred to as an organ, although supersensory.
  • Resistance to Fear should be fine, if there are reasons to take it literally.
  • Same for Falchion, it's an antenna, so it would fall within bodily senses imho, although inhuman one, similarly to insects having different sensory apparatuses.
  • I'm missing the evidences for additional Powernull, Aura and Teleport.
  • I would replace Resistance to Dura Neg with resistance to Matter Manipulation, assuming the swords deal damage to particle level instantly.

Also, I agree with Chariot regarding the translations.
 
Actually for the last bit are they even resisting anything? Everytime they get grazed they basically ******* explode. If the armor still takes damage there's no resistance there.
 
I don't think the first counts as proper Resistance to Self-Destruction, if one can even resist such an ability. It's just the mechanical purpose of an exhaust system, to prevent the machine's failure, so it's a failsafe, not a special way to resist some kind of self-destruction induction in a proper way, I don't know how to say it. It technically can be applied to every machine, which are designed to not destroy themselves. Energy manipulation is fine, though.
I guess I'll count that as Limited Resistance to Self-Destruction, then.

I'm not sure the Eternal Cloak counts as Resistance to the T2 Gaia Memory abilities. It says it interferes with them, so it seemingly causes them to malfuction, rather than offering direct protection against them.
That was a goof on my end, due to the translation error someone pointed out to me. The energy is actually supposed to be "力" which is power and the interference is "スポイル" = spoil. So basically, the Robe spoils the power of the T2 Gaia Memories, rendering them unable to be used.
Another scan I have also supports this too, and I'm editing that into the main thread as supporting scan as well as re-editing that translation.

I don't see the Resistance to Info Analysis, I believe you forgot to add a scan.
Second goof up. Here's the scan where Eternal whooped his ass and re-editing it there too.

I would swap ESP for Enhanced Senses, idk, the Trident Feeler is referred to as an organ, although supersensory.
Same for Falchion, it's an antenna, so it would fall within bodily senses imho, although inhuman one, similarly to insects having different sensory apparatuses.
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I'm missing the evidences for additional Powernull, Aura and Teleport.
Oh, nah. That's for adding onto the already added abilities to say that Kyomu powers are thought-based as long as Falchion holds the trigger to his sword. And unless it's out of his hands, he's always seen holding the trigger in combat. Otherwise, I don't know what ability the thought based thing falls into.
For teleport, Yea, removing that. That guy flew from the South Pole to Japan, disregard it.

I would replace Resistance to Dura Neg with resistance to Matter Manipulation, assuming the swords deal damage to particle level instantly.
Kamen Rider Sabela's profile has Dura Neg as been accepted. So I just took it from that.

Also, I agree with Chariot regarding the translations.
The English Translations for the scans were taken from the Kamen Rider wiki, which has almost everything translated from the original Japanese sources. I could also go through that entire translation thread thing, but I figured it'd take too long so this was my next best option.
 
I guess I'll count that as Limited Resistance to Self-Destruction, then
No? He's saying it just isn't that at all? there's no limited there.
That was a goof on my end, due to the translation error someone pointed out to me. The energy is actually supposed to be "力" which is power and the interference is "スポイル" = spoil. So basically, the Robe spoils the power of the T2 Gaia Memories, rendering them unable to be used.
That isn't what it says, spoil is used, but it's a loanword from english, which might make you think "oh so it's the same thing", but it isn't, a lot of loanwords often take on completely new meanings or similar but skewed ones, these being referred to as "wasei-eigo".
In this case, interfere is probably a good translation given it more or less gets across the intended meaning, and also THIS is why you need to actually get these translations fact checked.

Though, you're extrapolating. it doesn't say that they can't be used, in fact your following scan says they can it's just not as good. Spoil in itself is also vague, spoil to what extent? A bit? Completely?
Another scan I have also supports this too, and I'm editing that into the main thread as supporting scan as well as re-editing that translation.
That scan actively contradicts your claim. It says it merely weakens the attack, not outright negates it.
Which goes back around to "interfere" with energy being vague and indirectly implicates the thing in questions aren't being outright nullified, but just, well it doesn't actually elaborate to what extent.
Do they show it in the show?
Second goof up. Here's the scan where Eternal whooped his ass and re-editing it there too.
This doesn't say they used it though?
While it might be self-evident, we don't automatically give resistances to someone who fought people with an ability unless it was actively used or called attention to.

Like that just ain't me saying it, it's why every character ever who's fought Batman or Daredevil wouldn't automatically get IA resistance for example.
Oh, nah. That's for adding onto the already added abilities to say that Kyomu powers are thought-based as long as Falchion holds the trigger to his sword. And unless it's out of his hands, he's always seen holding the trigger in combat. Otherwise, I don't know what ability the thought based thing falls into.
It'd be Self-Telepathy, maybe minor instinctive action if you explain it properly.
Though, calling it thought-based anything is misleading and not at all what's being described there.

Most hax is listed as duraneg, but you don't resist "duraneg", you just resist whatever that ability is. Though matter manip res might check out if it's legit.
But you'd still need to prove they do have the same armor and that armor actually has resistance.
The English Translations for the scans were taken from the Kamen Rider wiki, which has almost everything translated from the original Japanese sources.
Were those done by reliable sources? Someone shoving it in a MT and throwing it on fandom ain't exactly....
I could also go through that entire translation thread thing, but I figured it'd take too long so this was my next best option.
Whether it takes 5m or 5 months, the goal is to index things properly.
 
Ya gonna like, actually reply to the questions, contentions and whatnot or...?
 
Look, normally I'd take in your input, but seriously? You've been hounding me aggressively throughout this entire ordeal, and now you're coming here and basically countering my arguments out of spite. Like you're not even making it subtle at this point, since I've never seen you in any other KR CRT. C'mon.
If any other staff echoes or share inputs similar to yours, then fine, I'll "answer" to your points, but for now, I'm just going to ignore you because of all the shit that has transpired.

I mean, for someone who keeps saying he doesn't care, you're really caring about this way too much for your own good.
 
Look, normally I'd take in your input, but seriously? You've been hounding me aggressively throughout this entire ordeal, and now you're coming here and basically countering my arguments out of spite.
No? I'm looking it over, seeing if it checks out, if there's something wrong, vague, or lacks sufficient proof, I say as much?

I give a hell of a lot more of a **** about actually indexing shit properly than a dogass vs match my dude 🗿
Like you're not even making it subtle at this point, since I've never seen you in any other KR CRT. C'mon.
Uh yeah? Because you linked this one? And thus I'm aware of it?
Was I not supposed to read it or something?
If any other staff echoes or share inputs similar to yours, then fine, I'll "answer" to your points, but for now, I'm just going to ignore you because of all the shit that has transpired.
Ignoring actual points, admitting to doing so, not because they're wrong, but SOLELY because we disagreed elsewhere. Is super bad behavior dude.
I mean, for someone who keeps saying he doesn't care, you're really caring about this way too much for your own good.
Huh? I care about indexing shit properly? That's the most important thing this wiki does? Whether it's something I actively partake in, or something I couldn't give two ***** about, we should make an ample effort to actually index things correctly.

Now actually do what I asked, nicely mind you. They're actual questions and contentions, if you can answer them properly and smooth over the issues I brought up, I'd agree, easy as?
Fact is a lot of this doesn't actually say you're saying it says, or there's some caveats to it, or in some cases it might not even be true. Is that the case for everything? I doubt it. Hell maybe with a bit of extra proof and context it'd be fine. Case and point, two of the additions here you said you got some stuff wrong on and thus removed it. If nobody questioned it, it would've flew under the radar.
 
I don't really want to chime in about the contents of the CRT, but I will say that we can't be using translations on another wiki.

The KR wiki isn't that bad, but without the ability to verify if the translations are MTL or edited MTL (which is a big point), we need translation helpers to recheck or it'll likely be considered illegal based on the new MTL regulations.
 
I don't really want to chime in about the contents of the CRT, but I will say that we can't be using translations on another wiki.

The KR wiki isn't that bad, but without the ability to verify if the translations are MTL or edited MTL (which is a big point), we need translation helpers to recheck or it'll likely be considered illegal based on the new MTL regulations.
Fine, I'll have those rechecked.
 
I essentially agree with SamanPatou here.
I've answered Saman's post but he hasn't returned to give an answer yet. What say you?
I guess I'll count that as Limited Resistance to Self-Destruction, then.


That was a goof on my end, due to the translation error someone pointed out to me. The energy is actually supposed to be "力" which is power and the interference is "スポイル" = spoil. So basically, the Robe spoils the power of the T2 Gaia Memories, rendering them unable to be used.
Another scan I have also supports this too, and I'm editing that into the main thread as supporting scan as well as re-editing that translation.


Second goof up. Here's the scan where Eternal whooped his ass and re-editing it there too.



(y)


Oh, nah. That's for adding onto the already added abilities to say that Kyomu powers are thought-based as long as Falchion holds the trigger to his sword. And unless it's out of his hands, he's always seen holding the trigger in combat. Otherwise, I don't know what ability the thought based thing falls into.
For teleport, Yea, removing that. That guy flew from the South Pole to Japan, disregard it.


Kamen Rider Sabela's profile has Dura Neg as been accepted. So I just took it from that.


The English Translations for the scans were taken from the Kamen Rider wiki, which has almost everything translated from the original Japanese sources. I could also go through that entire translation thread thing, but I figured it'd take too long so this was my next best option.
 
Hmm. Did he try to analyze them?
I don't see the forehead glowing thing in the second scan, but I also don't know what the ability actually looks like or if that's it.

Also, if you wouldn't mind, could you re-post the rest of your rebuttals down here? It's annoying have to scroll all the way back up.
 
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Yes, but it's possible that for this enemy specifically it wasn't enough.
Let me put it this way: having resistance to Info Analysis would mean he was unable to gain the info in the first place.
If he did gain the info, and it just didn't help, that wouldn't qualify.
Right now I'm not sure which is actually the case.
Ok, so it's like this.
The forehead blinking thing was exclusive to the debut episode of W Xtreme Form. The forehead doesn't blink anymore throughout the series afterwards (as far as I'm aware), but his IA still remains, like when he knew that his finisher didn't completely kill off an enemy, and hit his mirage and yet W knew that he got damaged. There's this scan where W explicitly states that he has IA-ed his enemy, but his forehead doesn't blink anymore.

With such a dangerous ability like being instantly able to powernull everything, W would've brought his A-Game if he'd known about it via his IA, but W didn't, so he got mollywhopped in the end. In Xtreme Form, W can access to the Gaia Library, which in turn means that he has access to any recorded knowledge on Earth in an instant. This is linked with the IA because that's basically what it does. Yet they couldn't IA Eternal to the point that someone close to Eternal had to tell W his backstory as to why he tried to destroy the city, when he could just easily read up on who Eternal is with just his IA alone.

Hence, the IA resistance for Eternal.
 
Ok, so it's like this.
The forehead blinking thing was exclusive to the debut episode of W Xtreme Form. The forehead doesn't blink anymore throughout the series afterwards (as far as I'm aware), but his IA still remains, like when he knew that his finisher didn't completely kill off an enemy, and hit his mirage and yet W knew that he got damaged. There's this scan where W explicitly states that he has IA-ed his enemy, but his forehead doesn't blink anymore.

With such a dangerous ability like being instantly able to powernull everything, W would've brought his A-Game if he'd known about it via his IA, but W didn't, so he got mollywhopped in the end. In Xtreme Form, W can access to the Gaia Library, which in turn means that he has access to any recorded knowledge on Earth in an instant. This is linked with the IA because that's basically what it does. Yet they couldn't IA Eternal to the point that someone close to Eternal had to tell W his backstory as to why he tried to destroy the city, when he could just easily read up on who Eternal is with just his IA alone.

Hence, the IA resistance for Eternal.
Alright, thank you.

In that case it's probably fine.

Though the justification should focus more on the fact that he explicitly didn't know things about him, rather than just that he lost to him.

If that makes sense.
 
Noted.
Here's the other other arguments if you're interested.
I guess I'll count that as Limited Resistance to Self-Destruction, then.

That was a goof on my end, due to the translation error someone pointed out to me. The energy is actually supposed to be "力" which is power and the interference is "スポイル" = spoil. So basically, the Robe spoils the power of the T2 Gaia Memories, rendering them unable to be used.
Another scan I have also supports this too, and I'm editing that into the main thread as supporting scan as well as re-editing that translation.

Oh, nah. That's for adding onto the already added abilities to say that Kyomu powers are thought-based as long as Falchion holds the trigger to his sword. And unless it's out of his hands, he's always seen holding the trigger in combat. Otherwise, I don't know what ability the thought based thing falls into.
For teleport, Yea, removing that. That guy flew from the South Pole to Japan, disregard it.


Kamen Rider Sabela's profile has Dura Neg as been accepted. So I just took it from that.


The English Translations for the scans were taken from the Kamen Rider wiki, which has almost everything translated from the original Japanese sources. I could also go through that entire translation thread thing, but I figured it'd take too long so this was my next best option.
 
Not seeing resistance to self destruction, that's not really something you can resist. Same with durability negation due to how broad the ability is, change it to something more fitting with the ability in question.

Not exactly sure if that's a resistance to info analysis since they don't comment on the info power not working.

The cape thing looks like power null than resistance unless it's used like a shield and not a shutdown ability.

ehh, thought based with the sword isn't the same as what we consider thought based hax.

everything else looks fine to me.
 
Also I forgor about this CRT.
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フレイムアーム
26のガイアメモリを使用する際に、その余剰エネルギーを外部に放出し、身体の自壊をふせぐための特殊なフレイムパターンの放出器官を持つ腕。

Flame Armor
An arm equipped with a part to release excess energy from using the 26th Gaia Memory to prevent the body's self-destruction.
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エターナルブレス
エターナルメモリの力を増幅し、超越的な腕力を発生させる器官。

Eternal Brace
An part that amplifies the Eternal Memory's power and increases physical strength to transcendental levels.
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エターナルアンクレット
ガイアメモリによって得られた力を増幅し、脚力を極限まで高める器官。

Eternal Anklet
A part that amplifies the Gaia Memory's power and increases leg strength to its utmost limits.
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シンクチャクラム
26本のすべてのガイアメモリを同期させ、エターナルに超越的なパワーを供給する器官。

Sync Chakram
A part that synchronizes the 26 Gaia Memories and supplies transcendental power to Eternal.
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エターナルローブ
エターナルの全身を覆う絶対防御能力を持つシールドマント。あらゆる熱、冷気、電気、打撃などを無効化し、エターナルの身体を守る。
が、ネバーエンディングヘル(26本メモリの一斉発動)の発動時にはこのマントの防御力がメモリの力をスポイルしてしまう故に、脱ぎ捨てる必要が発生する。

Eternal Robe
A shield cloak that possesses absolute defensive power. It protects Eternal's body and renders all heat, cold, electricity and blows ineffective. However, when Never Ending Hell is activated (Simultaneous activation of the 26 Memories), the cloak's defensive power intereferes with the power of the Memories, so taking it off becomes necessary.
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エターナルローブ
エターナルの全身を覆うシールドマント。熱や冷気、電気、打撃などのあらゆる攻撃を無効化する絶対防御能力を持つ。ただし、「ネバーエンディングヘル」の発動時には、このマントがガイアメモリの力を弱めてしまうため、脱ぎ捨てる必要がある。

i think this one basically says the exact same thing as the above one but using slightly different wording.
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トライデントフィーラーエターナルの全方向に対して超音波を発信し、反射音波を拾うことで死角を無くす超感覚器官。
微量な空気の動きさえも逃すことなくキャッチする。

Trident Feeler - A super sensory organ that emits ultrasonic waves in all directions and picks up reflected waves to remove all blind spots. It can catch even the smallest movements of the air.
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ワイドレンジアイ
左右が一体化したCアイ部分は、大道の意思によって自在に視界・焦点距離を変えることが出来、前方280度のワイドな視界と、2000m上空から蟻を認識できるほどの超視力をもたらす。

Wide Range Eye
The C-Eye unifies left and right, freely altering its field of vision and focal length as Daido wishes. His field of vision reaches 280x further ahead, and its super visual acuity could even spot an ant on the ground from 2000 metres up.
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フェニックレストファルシオン エターナルフェニックスのアンテナ。
空間把握能力に優れ、あらゆる方向からの攻撃も的確に察知する。

Phoenicrest Falchion
Eternal Phoenix's antennas. His space perception ability increases, and becomes acutely aware of attacks from all directions.
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無銘剣虚無エンブレム
無銘剣虚無の根源。
聖なる力を無に帰する力を用いて、聖剣の持つ属性の力を無効化する。
中心部には仮面ライダーファルシオンを表す紋章が彫り込まれている。

Mumeiken Kyomu Emblem (Unmarked Sword of Nothingness's Emblem)
The source of the Mumeiken Kyomu.
Using the power to return holy power to nothing, it renders the power holy blades have ineffective.
Kamen Rider Falchion's crest is carved into its central part.
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キョムトリガー
無銘剣虚無の引き金。
剣士の操作を受けて無銘剣虚無がその意思を読み取り、各種攻撃におけるスターターの役割を果たしている。

Kyomu Trigger
Mumeiken Kyomu's trigger.
Reading the will of its wielder, it acts as the starter for various types of attacks.
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ライドアームセイバーブレイブドラゴンの左腕。甲冑「ソードローブ」の外装は、「ページアーマー」と呼ばれる積層装甲で、鍛え上げられたプレートアーマーを何重にも重ねて形作られている。
これにより、強固な防御力と様々な動作への柔軟な追従性を獲得している。

Ride Arm: Saber Brave Dragon's left arm.
The external armor, the "Sword Robe", is a layer of armor called "Page Armor", formed by attaching several layers of forged plate armor.
Due to this, it possesses both powerful defensive ability and the ability to flexibly follow various movements.
 
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