Quick Mechikabura profile fixes (+ some other demons)

[Dagoth_OwO]

So as you may or may not know, I've been on a noble quest to fix some outdated DB profiles. Mechikabura is mostly up to date (thank God) but there's a few things still missing which I'd like to add here + some other shenanigans for other demon fellas before I forget they exist

Mechikabura:

Summoning & Statistics Reduction: Can summon Dark Shenron in his Old key and reduce his opponents power & durability to 1
Resistance to Stamina Reduction: Can become immune to stamina damage
Statistics Amplification Negation: Can passively negate the enemy's multipliers
Damage Reduction Negation: Can passively negate the enemy's damage reduction effect

Demigra:

More Summoning: Can summon Towa, Dabura, Mira & Psi Devilman
Enhanced Status Effect Inducement: With his Stunning Magic ability, Demigra can passively deal great stamina damage and stun his opponents, making them unable to fight

Shroom:

Layered Soul Manipulation: As we know, our favourite Grim Reaper Shroom (whose profile I'll too fix later) can manipulate/reap/damage souls directly. He was even able to reap Janemba who has resistance to Soul Manipulation. This would mean that Shroom has at least 1 layer of soul hax and anyone who resists it would have at layered resistance to soul hax

Fu:

Supergenius IQ: Simply put, Fu is directly responsible for the creation of the Universe Seed/Tree as his scientific experiment. With his IQ, he was capable of creating a higher-dimensional construct that can create and suck up dry entire universal space-times, overpower even Gods of Destruction (who scale hilariously high into Low 1-C), erase reality on a Tier 1 scale etc. From what I'm reading from the IQ standards, this seems like a clear feat of Supergenius intelligence
Edit: His skills as a scientist are also stated to transcend time with feats like creating interdimensional spaces like the Prison Planet that can trap people with Tier 1 range in it, his sword that can cut space-time on a Tier 1 level, devices that can extract Tier 1 energy like Cumber's Evil Aura, restraining devices that can nullify the power & abilities of Tier 1 characters - showing diversity with his inventions

 

[Killerdrone123]

Addition looks good i Agree

 

[ProfectusInfinity]

Agree with all.

 

[MrTayman616]

Layered Soul Manipulation: As we know, our favourite Grim Reaper Shroom (whose profile I'll too fix later) can manipulate/reap/damage souls directly. He was even able to reap Janemba who has resistance to Soul Manipulation. This would mean that Shroom has at least 1 layer of soul hax and anyone who resists it would have at layered resistance to soul hax

This is wrong.

Janemba's soul resistance isn't to this type of thing. It's not layered because they are completely different.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Janemba's soul resistance isn't to this type of thing. It's not layered because they are completely different.

I mean, if his soul resistance isn't for Shroom's thing then what is it for?

 

[MrTayman616]

I mean, if his soul resistance isn't for Shroom's thing then what is it for?

"Cleansing the soul".

Not to attacks or being cut etc.

This is just making a soul from bad to good. He didn't turn good because he has countless evil soul inside of him.

They don't resist to being cut etc.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

"Cleansing the soul".

Not to attacks or being cut etc.

So basically just soul purification?

 

[MeiouHades]

No

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Looks alright

 

[MrTayman616]

Looks alright

How does "Layered Soul Manipulation" works here?

Janemba's resistance to soul manipulation is fully based on "resisting soul purification". Nothing like resisting "soul damage, soul getting cut, reaped" etc etc.

The type is different, no?

 

[Shar122]

Agree with all.

 

[Shar122]

This is wrong.

Janemba's soul resistance isn't to this type of thing. It's not layered because they are completely different.

It's accepted as Soul manipulation;

Resistance to:

• Soul Manipulation (He is the amalgamation of the countless evil souls that resisted the Soul Cleansing Machine)

It still pertains as having soul hax properties still overall.

 

[MrTayman616]

It's accepted as Soul manipulation;

Resistance to:

• Soul Manipulation (He is the amalgamation of the countless evil souls that resisted the Soul Cleansing Machine)

It still pertains as having soul hax properties still overall.

Yes, but soul manipulation itself is not limited to one thing. How you affect it is important.

This doesn't give a layer.

 

[Shar122]

How does "Layered Soul Manipulation" works here?

Janemba's resistance to soul manipulation is fully based on "resisting soul purification". Nothing like resisting "soul damage, soul getting cut, reaped" etc etc.

The type is different, no?

No, Soul Manipulation is the ability to interact with one's soul or the souls of others. This ability ranges from being able to project the power of one's soul outward, grasping and ripping the souls of others out of their bodies, outright consuming souls to gain power, among other applications.
Purifying souls is still a form of soul manipulation, as it involves interacting with and influencing souls.

 

[MrTayman616]

Purifying souls is still a form of soul manipulation, as it involves interacting with and influencing souls.

Yes, but resisting purification doesn't mean you can resist any type of damage etc.

If i can purify a soul, we'll act like i have npi, and can use any type of soul manipulation because it's "soul manipulation"?

This doesn't apply. There is no layer here.

 

[Shar122]

Yes, but soul manipulation itself is not limited to one thing. How you affect it is important.

This doesn't give a layer.

I agree that application of soul hax isn't limited to single effects, it's a broad one, I meant that even seemingly purification, fall under the umbrella of it, they involve direct interaction with souls.
So the key here that soul hax isn't just limited, it's all soul related effects whether harming, extracting, purifying etc.. Still falls in that category. The layer part applies to the higher layer of potency of soul ability is beyond Janemba can't even resist, it still covers any influence of souls regardless of effects.

 

[MrTayman616]

So the key here that soul hax isn't just limited, it's all soul related effects whether harming, extracting, purifying etc.. Still falls in that category. The layer part applies to the higher layer of potency of soul ability is beyond Janemba can't even resist, it still covers any influence of souls regardless of effects.

No.

For the layer to work, his resistance must be against "being reaped, soul damage" etc etc. as that's what the attack of Shroom does.

Just because you have resistance to a type of soul manipulation doesn't mean you have to other type of soul manipulations. There is no layer here.

 

[Shar122]

No.

For the layer to work, his resistance must be against "being reaped, soul damage" etc etc. as that's what the attack of Shroom does.

Just because you have resistance to a type of soul manipulation doesn't mean you have to other type of soul manipulations. There is no layer here.

Let's just agree to disagree for now, let's wait for the staff to clarify stuff about how layer have to do anything with the "application" the soul hax in question, although you have a point, I'm not disagreeing you entirely actually. Tho I prefer staffs to evaluate this.

 

[Segetero]

Could you include black hole creation for Mechikabura in the CRT please?

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Could you include black hole creation for Mechikabura in the CRT please?

Doesn't that already have a CRT of its own

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Looks good, I agree.

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

Disagree with layered soul manipulation, others look fine ig

 

[Ruler_Star_Kuma]

Disagree with layered soul manipulation, others look fine ig

Albeit that intelligence justification could definitely be changed to something more fitting.

 

[Segetero]

Doesn't that already have a CRT of its own

Yea but it died

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Yea but it died

Did you call any mods to check your thread?

 

[FinePoint]

I'll address the intelligence below. Everything else looks good.

Supergenius IQ: Simply put, Fu is directly responsible for the creation of the Universe Seed/Tree as his scientific experiment. With his IQ, he was capable of creating a higher-dimensional construct that can create and suck up dry entire universal space-times, overpower even Gods of Destruction (who scale hilariously high into Low 1-C), erase reality on a Tier 1 scale etc. From what I'm reading from the IQ standards, this seems like a clear feat of Supergenius intelligence

It depends, and from the sounds of it, it may not qualify.

A supergenius should be able to process infinite information and/or do universal reality warping very regularly.

If this was a one-time thing, and it only became that large gradually by absorbing other things, I'm not sure from that alone I'm convinced.

 

[Killerdrone123]

I'll address the intelligence below. Everything else looks good.


It depends, and from the sounds of it, it may not qualify.

A supergenius should be able to process infinite information and/or do universal reality warping very regularly.

If this was a one-time thing, and it only became that large gradually by absorbing other things, I'm not sure from that alone I'm convinced.

The processing information part only applies to non technological stuff but with universe tree as mentioned by the op fu was able to overpower God of destruction who are tier 1 characters,Fu has created space time cutter sword which was able to cut space and time on tier 1 level,his abilities as a scientist was stated to transcend time itself,he can create device that can extract cumber evil aura which is a tier 1 energy.He can create reality warping objects like Dragon balls and things like ki sealing handcuffs that seals one ability to use ki.

You can also check his profile for more of his intelligence feats

 

[AwkguyDB]

I agree with it all

 

[Shar122]

The processing information part only applies to non technological stuff but with universe tree as mentioned by the op fu was able to overpower God of destruction who are tier 1 characters,Fu has created space time cutter sword which was able to cut space and time on tier 1 level,his abilities as a scientist was stated to transcend time itself,he can create device that can extract cumber evil aura which is a tier 1 energy.

+ The Universe tree itself absorbs multiple infinite sized space-times within the CC timeline, it can even capable of even absorbing the God of destruction energy that are tier 1 themselves, and even Dogi Dogi, the bird of calamity, Toki Toki, both are time birds that are capable of giving birth to time, and timelines/histories are born from it as well. + he can revived the Universe tree with his Dark Factor no issue at all.

 

[Killerdrone123]

+ The Universe tree itself absorbs multiple infinite sized space-times within the CC timeline, it can even capable of even absorbing the God of destruction energy that are tier 1 themselves, and even Dogi Dogi, the bird of calamity, Toki Toki, both are time birds that are capable of giving birth to time, and timelines/histories are born from it as well. + he can revived the Universe tree with his Dark Factor no issue at all.

 

[Shar122]

I'll address the intelligence below. Everything else looks good.


It depends, and from the sounds of it, it may not qualify.

A supergenius should be able to process infinite information and/or do universal reality warping very regularly.

If this was a one-time thing, and it only became that large gradually by absorbing other things, I'm not sure from that alone I'm convinced.

Actually Fu is accepted having "likely Supergenius" already, we are just making his Supergenius solid.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

If this was a one-time thing, and it only became that large gradually by absorbing other things, I'm not sure from that alone I'm convinced.

The Universe Seed alone is already capable of erasing all of reality/everything & negate immortality which even concerned the Grand Priest. Fu does already have a "likely" Supergenius rating as his abilities as a scientist transcend time, with feats like creating interdimensional spaces like the Prison Planet or his Time Cutter that can manipulate space-time & some previous scaling above Extraordinary geniuses, so this is more-so just removing the "likely" part from his justification

 

[Shar122]

Bump...

 

[FinePoint]

The Universe Seed alone is already capable of erasing all of reality/everything & negate immortality which even concerned the Grand Priest. Fu does already have a "likely" Supergenius rating as his abilities as a scientist transcend time, with feats like creating interdimensional spaces like the Prison Planet or his Time Cutter that can manipulate space-time & some previous scaling above Extraordinary geniuses, so this is more-so just removing the "likely" part from his justification

Well, I think that "Likely Supergenius" is still fitting, unless there's even more evidence.

 

[MrTayman616]

I'll address the intelligence below. Everything else looks good.

Is the soul resistance and layer fine?

His soul resistance comes from resisting purification, nothing like resisting attacks or anything similar.

 

[FinePoint]

Is the soul resistance and layer fine?

His soul resistance comes from resisting purification, nothing like resisting attacks or anything similar.

Well I don't remember (I go through a lot of revisions), but if I said everything else is fine I probably meant it.

That said, I'll look again at that specifically real quick:

The justification is as follows: "He is the amalgamation of the countless evil souls that resisted the Soul Cleansing Machine."

I have no idea what that actually means. If he does resist Soul Manipulation, then the layer is probably fine, however you have now sown doubt he should have it in the first place.

So for now I will rescind my agreement on the soul stuff until someone provides a proper scan with context I can evaluate for the resistance.

 

[MrTayman616]

Well I don't remember (I go through a lot of revisions), but if I said everything else is fine I probably meant it.

That said, I'll look again at that specifically real quick:

The justification is as follows: "He is the amalgamation of the countless evil souls that resisted the Soul Cleansing Machine."

I have no idea what that actually means. If he does resist Soul Manipulation, then the layer is probably fine, however you have now sown doubt he should have it in the first place.

So for now I will rescind my agreement on the soul stuff until someone provides a proper scan with context I can evaluate for the resistance.

I don't think it's fine here. Why would he get layered attack for something the enemy doesn't resist?

This implies that "Soul manipulation" includes every type of soul manipulation and resisting a type of soul manipulation makes you able to resist every type of it

 

[FinePoint]

I don't think it's fine here. Why would he get layered attack for something the enemy doesn't resist?

This implies that "Soul manipulation" includes every type of soul manipulation and resisting a type of soul manipulation makes you able to resist every type of it

I meant it's fine IF he does resist it. Conditional.

Right now I'm waiting for confirmation of that via a scan with context (since there isn't one on the profile.)

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

Well, I think that "Likely Supergenius" is still fitting, unless there's even more evidence.

I mean, the standards for Supergenius state that overpowering tier 1 entities would qualify as a SQ feat which even the Universe Seed is capable of, so I don't see why this wouldn't qualify for a full-on Supergenius rating. That and his devices that affect Tier 1 constructs like the Time Cutter

 

[FinePoint]

I mean, the standards for Supergenius state that overpowering tier 1 entities would qualify as a SQ feat which even the Universe Seed is capable of, so I don't see why this wouldn't qualify for a full-on Supergenius rating. That and his devices that affect Tier 1 constructs like the Time Cutter

What is SQ?