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Popular/Controversial Verses and the Determination Thereof

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I mentioned this idea here when (at least one) user(s) complained that guidelines on what constitutes a popular verse wasn't clear, in regards to requiring a greater staff presence to pass CRTs. I am not aiming to create specific guidelines, that they are vague leaves it to our judgement rather than technicality. Rather, this thread proposes the following:

  • Create a template that goes on Verse pages informing users that this is considered a popular enough verse to warrant stringent staff evaluation for CRTs (e.g., requiring 3 staff for a CRT rather than 2).
  • Discuss which verses would receive this template if accepted.
  • Discuss how, in the future, it would be decided that such a template be added to a verse page. My immediate proposals would be either via a Staff Discussion thread specifically for that verse, a Wiki Management thread dedicated to that type of discussion (which would have similar posting rules to something like the RVRT), or a CRT, like any other verse change- I like this last option the least.
This removes ambiguity as to which verses adhere to this particular rule without disabling our ability to judge things on a case by case basis. There aren't many verses that should fall in this category so I believe this is a very feasible task to pursue. I am not savvy enough to create a template and would like volunteers who would be able to, perhaps in the form of a content moderator or some similarly skilled individual.

If this is approved, I'll add a list of agreed upon verses below. For now, discuss.
 
Obvious examples of popular verses are Dragon Ball, HST (One Piece, Naruto, Bleach), Marvel Comics, DC Comics, and One Punch Man. But then there are plenty of verses popular/controversial due to battle boarding community rather than popular in general. Or verses known for dedicated fandoms that tend to attract those with controversial power scaling takes (Whether that be excessive overplaying or downplaying) that may be worth bringing up. I'd pretty much also consider any verse Low 1-C and above to be labeled as "Controversial" as well. But also verses where attempts of upgrading that high have been common whether or not it was commonly rejected.
 
I agree. As for deciding which verses should get the template moving forward, I think a dedicated Wiki Management thread works fine, unless a better alternative comes up.

Once this comes to pass, I'm also fine with working on the template.

Is there a top 10 most-visited verse pages listed in our backend stats?
As far as I know. There used to be something like that in Special Pages. I think it was PopularPages or MostPopular under Statistics, but I believe it was removed when hit counters were removed(?) and we just use Google Analytics and something else for tracking page views now. We do have a somewhat similar feature, though I think it is only visible to Admins (which we can't share the specific numbers). However, it mainly shows the most viewed pages overall (this includes even categories and others), and as far as I know, neither the old one or the one we have now allows filtering by categories like Verses, unfortunately. There are trending pages in the Category:Verses, but I don't think this is very reliable.
 
I know I am but a lowly Thread Moderator, and my opinion holds no value 😞 - but:

As I said in the previous thread, I think it would make the most sense to resolve these sorts of cases in the All-Purpose Request Thread or its own Wiki Management Thread depending on how often it ends up being. My guess is that outside of initially establishing it here, where we'll probably catch most of the obvious ones, that this will be a relatively rare request.

The ultimate impact is relatively minor on CRTs (having no impact on their creation and simply requiring one additional person to participate), so I don't think it's something which needs its own Staff Discussion unless it becomes controversial, and a CRT for it would be sort of cyclical.

As for what qualifies, we sort of agreed on the previous thread that it's based on how popular it is on the wiki as opposed to in general, so I think a pretty easy way to get a list would be to simply look at what verses have active/large discussion threads and frequent CRTs.
 
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So taking my previous advice and sorting by views:

One-Punch Man
Bleach
Dragon Ball
Naruto
My Hero Academia
Jujutsu Kaisen
One Piece
Sonic
God of War
MCU/Marvel
That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
The Misfit of Demon King Academy
Four Knights of the Apocalypse
Nasuverse
Fairy Tail
Chainsaw Man
Ultra Series
DCEU/DC
Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac
Ben 10
Honkai: Star Rail
Pokemon
The God of High School
Jojo's Bizarre Adventures
Re Zero
MASHLE
RWBY
Toaru
Genshin Impact
Shinza Banshou
Transformers
Record of Ragnarok
Fire Emblem
Legend of Zelda
Devil May Cry
Black Clover
Monika Gang
Spongebob
FNAF
Mario
Tower of God
Kamen Rider
Arifureta
Godzilla
Elden Ring
Star Wars
Edens Zero
Instant Death
Undertale/Deltarune
Minecraft
Mortal Kombat
World of Darkness
Ragna Crimson
Xianxia
Fire Brigade of Flames
Demon Slayer
Hellaverse
High School DxD
Megami Tensei
Isekai at Peace
Final Fantasy
Gravity Falls
Doctor Who
Granblue Fantasy
Undead Unluck
Miraculous Ladybug
Bayonetta
Roblox
Kaguri Bachi
Metroid
Zenless Zone Zero
Madness Combat
Metal Gear
Monster Hunter
Arc System Works
Project Moon
The Boys
Azur Lane
GLITCH (The Amazing Digital Circus, Murder Drones, The Gaslight District)
Avatar
Black Myth: Wukong
Puella Magi Verse
Tokyo Revengers
Mobile Suit Gundam
Tekken
Cyberpunk
A Wild Last Boss
What a Beautiful Series
Sonic
Lord of the Rings
Xenoblade Chronicles
Plants Versus Zombies
Woody Woodpecker
Lupin III
Overgeared
Mushoku Tensei
The Object Show
Super Smash Bros

And as someone who evaluates any random thread I'm asked to, most of these are names I see pop up a lot, and in general the list seems to mostly pass the vibe check, so this would probably be a good place to start.

Some of these can definitely be removed, but I don't feel like anything is missing at least.
 
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As this is generally accepted, probably a good idea to begin discussing specifics of who would get this, yeah. I see a lot there I'd disagree with restricting like this but it's a great place to start, thank you.
 
As this is generally accepted, probably a good idea to begin discussing specifics of who would get this, yeah. I see a lot there I'd disagree with restricting like this but it's a great place to start, thank you.
Indeed. Some of them clearly used to be popular but aren't anymore, or were carried by a few but very active members. I'll keep the full list above for clarity, but the one below I'll edit to remove things we think don't qualify (or add things which are potentially missing) as they're brought up, which should leave us with things we think do qualify, if you want to start getting specific.

List.
 
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One-Punch Man
Bleach
Dragon Ball
Naruto
My Hero Academia
Jujutsu Kaisen
One Piece
Sonic
God of War
MCU/Marvel
That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
The Misfit of Demon King Academy
Four Knights of the Apocalypse
Nasuverse
Fairy Tail
Chainsaw Man
Ultra Series
DCEU/DC
Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac
Ben 10
Honkai: Star Rail
Pokemon
The God of High School
Jojo's Bizarre Adventures
Re Zero
MASHLE
RWBY
Toaru
Genshin Impact
Shinza Banshou
Transformers
Record of Ragnarok
Fire Emblem
Legend of Zelda
Devil May Cry
Black Clover
Monika Gang
Spongebob
FNAF
Mario
Tower of God
Kamen Rider
Arifureta
Godzilla
Elden Ring
Star Wars
Edens Zero
Instant Death
Undertale/Deltarune
Minecraft
Mortal Kombat
World of Darkness
Ragna Crimson
Xianxia
Fire Brigade of Flames
Demon Slayer
Hellaverse
High School DxD
Megami Tensei
Isekai at Peace
Final Fantasy
Gravity Falls
Doctor Who
Granblue Fantasy
Undead Unluck
Miraculous Ladybug
Bayonetta
Roblox
Kaguri Bachi
Metroid
Zenless Zone Zero
Madness Combat
Metal Gear
Monster Hunter
Arc System Works
Project Moon
The Boys
Azur Lane
GLITCH
Avatar
Black Myth: Wukong
Puella Magi Verse
Tokyo Revengers
Mobile Suit Gundam
Tekken
Cyberpunk
A Wild Last Boss
What a Beautiful Series
Sonic
Lord of the Rings
Xenoblade Chronicles
Plants Versus Zombies
Woody Woodpecker
Lupin III
Overgeared
Mushoku Tensei
The Object Show
Super Smash Bros
I assume "GLITCH" and "The Object Show" are just collections of verses (The former being a company and the latter being a subgenre)? I think you're better off listing them individually rather than by genre/company since certain members only support one or few of the verses in that category but not the others.
 
I assume "GLITCH" and "The Object Show" are just collections of verses (The former being a company and the latter being a subgenre)? I think you're better off listing them individually rather than by genre/company since certain members only support one or few of the verses in that category but not the others.
I changed it to GLITCH (The Amazing Digital Circus, Murder Drones, The Gaslight District) since those are the three shows from them which I know are popular. I checked their website, and they apparently have three others too, but given I've never heard of them, you're probably right we shouldn't include them.

As for the Object Show, you're literally the one who made the discussion thread about it, so I'm not sure why you're asking me.
 
I changed it to GLITCH (The Amazing Digital Circus, Murder Drones, The Gaslight District) since those are the three shows from them which I know are popular. I checked their website, and they apparently have three others too, but given I've never heard of them, you're probably right we shouldn't include them.
The Gaslight District isn't on this wiki, and while we also have Meta Runner, that show appears to not be talked about on this wiki much (if not at all) anymore to the point where the only profile of that series we have on this wiki is heavily outdated (It only goes over the first few episodes of the series but not the rest of the episodes). So, I'd say separate it between Murder Drones and The Amazing Digital Circus.
As for The Object Show, you're literally the one who made the discussion thread about it, so I'm not sure why you're asking me.
The 5 object shows that are currently on this site are Battle for Dream Island, Inanimate Insanity, The Daily Object Show, Animated Inanimate Battle, and ONE (The former 2 series listed are the most popular shows in that genre)
 
The Gaslight District isn't on this wiki, and while we also have Meta Runner, that show appears to not be talked about on this wiki much (if not at all) anymore to the point where the only profile of that series we have on this wiki is heavily outdated (It only goes over the first few episodes of the series but not the rest of the episodes). So, I'd say separate it between Murder Drones and The Amazing Digital Circus.
As far as I know, most of the Murder Drones support is just a single member who's very passionate about it.

So I'll just single it down to the Amazing Digital Circus.
The 5 object shows that are currently on this site are Battle for Dream Island, Inanimate Insanity, The Daily Object Show, Animated Inanimate Battle, and ONE (The former 2 series listed are the most popular shows in that genre)
In that case I doubt any one of the series is popular enough to qualify, so I'll just remove it entirely.
 
As far as I know, most of the Murder Drones support is just a single member who's very passionate about it.

So I'll just single it down to the Amazing Digital Circus.
IIRC one of the Murder Drones profiles is considered to be one of the more popularly viewed Internet character pages that made it to the trending pages category a few times, but understandable.

TADC on the other hand only seems to get talked about on this wiki by a few regular users (And it's also currently outdated).
In that case I doubt any one of the series is popular enough to qualify, so I'll just remove it entirely.
In all fairness, I do recall 3 staff members (Me, Propellus, and Tllmbrg) alongside some other regular users actually getting into talking about these shows, but we've mostly been talking about stuff related to Battle for Dream Island and Inanimate Insanity (Mostly the former).
 
IIRC one of the Murder Drones profiles is considered to be one of the more popularly viewed Internet character pages that made it to the trending pages category a few times, but understandable. TADC on the other hand only seems to get talked about on this wiki by a few regular users (And it's also currently outdated).
For Murder Drones: it is indeed very popular, but form first-hand experience I know there's not a lot of active support. All the revisions were done by the same person pretty much, and it was pretty much just myself and whoever I pinged who were willing to evaluate it.

For TADC: I feel like the reason it's not very 'active' is simply because the time between episodes is so large, and it only has three of them currently. Still, I think it would be reasonable to exclude too. I'll wait for other input.
In all fairness, I do recall 3 staff members (Me, Propellus, and Tllmbrg) alongside some other regular users actually getting into talking about these shows, but we've mostly been talking about stuff related to Battle for Dream Island and Inanimate Insanity (Mostly the former).
In that case, I'll add Battle for Dream Island in particular.
 
I'm fine with this, though I do have a question, if and when we either get a brand new franchise onto the wiki that explodes in popularity in terms of activity or an old series that skyrockets in activity, how are we going to manage them being popular enough to warrant them being popular and needing more staff input? Would we need some management thread to follow that or is the algorithm on FANDOM enough?
 
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Hello, I received permission from FinePoint to make this request here for transparency's sake.

I'd like for the Lupin III series to not be put on the list of popular verses needing 3 votes for CRTs. I am the only person actually making CRTs for the verse, the other knowledgeable members don't really engage that much in them with each one only getting a like from them and maybe a short comment saying "I agree", with most of the revisions amounting to me bumping the post daily for a month as most people aren't familiar with the verse (I don't even think anyone on the staff team is either, at least not to a decent enough extent).

I struggle enough to find other people to do calculations for the verse (to the point where I had to go off-site to get some), which forces me to focus entirely on abilities and powers as the verse stays outdated in that regard. Being forced to have 3 votes per CRT will only result in long bouts of nothing lasting multiple months as I wait for another staff member to take a look at it.

The rare amount of engagement in the CRTs are mainly people not knowledgeable questioning the continuity of the series, why I'm trying to buff X character much higher using feats not stuck in 1970-80s, or the (relatively) rare questioning on how a feat applies for the requested ability. Thank you for your time.
 
Indeed. Some of them clearly used to be popular but aren't anymore, or were carried by a few but very active members. I'll keep the full list above for clarity, but the one below I'll edit to remove things we think don't qualify (or add things which are potentially missing) as they're brought up, which should leave us with things we think do qualify, if you want to start getting specific.

One-Punch Man
Bleach
Dragon Ball
Naruto
My Hero Academia
Jujutsu Kaisen
One Piece
Sonic
God of War
MCU/Marvel
That Time I Got Reincarnated as a Slime
The Misfit of Demon King Academy
Four Knights of the Apocalypse
Nasuverse
Fairy Tail
Chainsaw Man
Ultra Series
DCEU/DC
Saint Seiya: Knights of the Zodiac
Ben 10
Honkai: Star Rail
Pokemon
The God of High School
Jojo's Bizarre Adventures
Re Zero
MASHLE
RWBY
Toaru
Genshin Impact
Shinza Banshou
Transformers
Record of Ragnarok
Fire Emblem
Legend of Zelda
Devil May Cry
Black Clover
Monika Gang
Spongebob
FNAF
Mario
Tower of God
Kamen Rider
Arifureta
Godzilla
Elden Ring
Star Wars
Edens Zero
Instant Death
Undertale/Deltarune
Minecraft
Mortal Kombat
World of Darkness
Ragna Crimson
Xianxia
Fire Brigade of Flames
Demon Slayer
Hellaverse
High School DxD
Megami Tensei
Isekai at Peace
Final Fantasy
Gravity Falls
Doctor Who
Granblue Fantasy
Undead Unluck
Miraculous Ladybug
Bayonetta
Roblox
Kaguri Bachi
Metroid
Zenless Zone Zero
Madness Combat
Metal Gear
Monster Hunter
Arc System Works
Project Moon
The Boys
Azur Lane
The Amazing Digital Circus
Avatar
Black Myth: Wukong
Puella Magi Verse
Tokyo Revengers
Mobile Suit Gundam
Tekken
Cyberpunk
A Wild Last Boss
What a Beautiful Series
Sonic
Lord of the Rings
Xenoblade Chronicles
Plants Versus Zombies
Woody Woodpecker
Overgeared
Mushoku Tensei
Super Smash Bros
Battle for Dream Island
Ones I would disagree with (I think this should be a pretty small list):

  • MASHLE
  • RWBY
  • Toaru
  • Transformers
  • Record of Ragnarok
  • Fire Emblem
  • Legend of Zelda
  • Black Clover
  • Monika Gang
  • Spongebob
  • FNAF
  • Tower of God
  • Arifureta
  • Godzilla
  • Elden Ring maybe
  • Eden's Zero
  • Mortal Kombat
  • Ragna Crimson
  • (Is Xianxia a collection of verses? I don't think most necessitate this treatment)
  • Fire Brigade of Flames
  • Hellaverse maybe
  • High School DxD
  • Isekai at Peace
  • Final Fantasy maybe
  • Gravity Falls maybe
  • Doctor Who
  • Granblue Fantasy
  • Undead Unluck
  • Miraculous Ladybug
  • Bayonetta
  • Roblox (Can't think of an individual Roblox verse that would necessitate this)
  • Kaguri Bachi
  • Metroid
  • Zenless Zone Zero
  • Madness Combat
  • Metal Gear
  • Monster Hunter
  • Arc System Works
  • Project Moon
  • The Boys maybe
  • Azur Lane
  • Avatar: The Last Airbender
  • Black Myth: Wukong
  • Mobile Suit Gundam
  • Tekken
  • Cyberpunk
  • A Wild Last Boss
  • What A Beautiful Series
  • Lord of the Rings
  • Xenoblade Chronicles
  • Plants Versus Zombies
  • Woody Woodpecker
  • Overgeared
  • Mushoku Tensei
  • Super Smash Bros
  • Battle for Dream Island
...most of these seem distant enough from overwhelming popularity that we wouldn't need to worry about them too much. Remember that we're analyzing from an on-wiki perspective, not from one of overall popularity; our concern is with bad edits getting through for verses with very high activity or notoriety.
 
Got permission from Mr.Bambu to comment.
I also suggest dceu to be removed as the verse is currently dead, replaced by it's successor dcu and most staff naturally aren't intrested in it anymore plus from what i've seen getting staffs opinions on the verse's crt's takes way more time compared other 3 vote requiring verses (such as dceu's counterpart verse mcu) and those who actually comment on them aren't even knowledgeable on the verse.
What are your opinions ?
 
DC Comics should stay on there but I'm fine with axing DCEU.
 
I agree with the premise of the thread. I think Content Revisions on if a verse would qualify can work but if it becomes a hassle they can be staff threads. I'm fine with whatever the general staff agrees upon.
 
"Popular" and "Controversial" aren't quite the same thing. Yes, popular verses are prone to being controversial, but there are plenty of obscure/not so popular verses that currently have Low 1-C and above ratings and are thus considered "Controversial" for those reasons alone. Basically, verses where "Main characters and various parts of the cast have locked profiles" determines the definition of "Controversial."
 
"Popular" and "Controversial" aren't quite the same thing. Yes, popular verses are prone to being controversial, but there are plenty of obscure/not so popular verses that currently have Low 1-C and above ratings and are thus considered "Controversial" for those reasons alone. Basically, verses where "Main characters and various parts of the cast have locked profiles" determines the definition of "Controversial."
Do you have any thoughts pertaining to the content of the thread
 
Do you have any thoughts pertaining to the content of the thread
I think the general idea of the OP is good, was just discussing clarifications on what verses qualify for needing more staff input and/or demanding Admins and not just thread moderators. We probably could have a Wiki Management to request input on some controversial verse threads that demand more staff input like Crab mentioned too. Or at least, we already have a request thread for something similar, but we can also note if a verse may be controversial.
 
I am largely fine with the proposal; I also agree that Wiki Management thread would be the best option for managing the template.
 
I think the general idea of the OP is good, was just discussing clarifications on what verses qualify for needing more staff input and/or demanding Admins and not just thread moderators. We probably could have a Wiki Management to request input on some controversial verse threads that demand more staff input like Crab mentioned too. Or at least, we already have a request thread for something similar, but we can also note if a verse may be controversial.
Fair enough. I've adjusted the title of the thread.

To everyone, if you have any thoughts on the list suggested by FinePoint above, I'd like to hear discussion on that, since we have the opportunity to handle a lot of the deciding of what-verse-gets-this immediately.

Also. @Antvasima Who would you recommend I bother about setting up a template for this?
 
I've received permission from Mr.Bambu, I'm here to request the removal of the Ultra Series from the list

As things stand now, the series gets little to no traction in terms of content revision threads and matchups, with even major revisions taking months on end to reach a conclusion. Needing 3 staff approvals would simply worsen the already lengthy revisions

What's more is that, despite its apparent popularity, little to no member and staff here knows much about the series, which is understandable as this series spans more than half a century.

In terms of controversy, the verse is about as controversial as most series on the wiki, with most of it being from people outside of the power scaling circle like the series' subreddit. On the forum, it's mostly the same, as mentioned above, not many members of this forum are familiar or even interested in the series
 
Fair enough. I've adjusted the title of the thread.

To everyone, if you have any thoughts on the list suggested by FinePoint above, I'd like to hear discussion on that, since we have the opportunity to handle a lot of the deciding of what-verse-gets-this immediately.

Also. @Antvasima Who would you recommend I bother about setting up a template for this?
@Just_a_Random_Butler @Elizhaa @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @Colonel_Krukov @Dereck03 @Shadowbokunohero @QrowBarr @Crazylatin77 @Zaratthustra @ElixirBlue @Tllmbrg @Nehz_XZX @Therefir @IdiosyncraticLawyer @Catzlaflame @TWILIGHT-OP

Are any of you willing and able to create a proper {{Popular Verse}} template? 🙏
 
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With the perms stuff aside. I'm here to tell you why Kamen Rider shouldn't be in the popular verses page for CRTs and whatnot. The situation is similar to what Ultra Series and Lupin III is experiencing, if you just want a tldr, but here is the full explanation.

Kamen Rider is already a niche within a niche, since not many people have heard of grasshopper men in spandex fighting evil that isn't Ultraman or Power Rangers, and even they're quite a niche subject in VSBW. At this moment, I'm the only member frequently active enough to support Kamen Rider (even then, I have been quite inactive due to irl stuff and may soon have to go onto hiatus depending on my predicament) in terms of matches and crts. While Kamen Rider had slight attention when I joined and did stuff here, it hasn't been as much as the other more popular series received. Only a handful of matches has been instigated by other members; most were either my very selective and specific matchups or tourney submissions. And that's for matches and stuff. Some may have been controversial, but then again Ed's quote summarises it up for Kamen Rider as well:
In terms of controversy, the verse is about as controversial as most series on the wiki, with most of it being from people outside of the power scaling circle like the series' subreddit. On the forum, it's mostly the same, as mentioned above, not many members of this forum are familiar or even interested in the series

The main subject is supposed to be CRTs, so sorry about the tangent on matches. I know the 3 or more staff/admin vote is standard procedures for very controversial crts like tier 1 stuff, and it's understandable to scrutinize something like whether Kamen Rider Saver should be 1-A or not, but doing the same for non-controversial crts are a death sentence for us. Getting a staff to one of these crts takes a long while to do. Trying to get 3 is like trying to win a lottery. Usually the crt would just be a desert, and it doesn't go anywhere. Case in point. Trying to increase the range of a character has already taken almost two months without any sign of staff. Imagine if this crt needs 3 admin votes to pass!

Since Kamen Rider is in Japanese, the same thing can be said for translations. Almost everything Kamen Rider related that has been posted into the official translator request thread hasn't been translated by any translator, slowing down possible crts already before they can even start. One of my series revamp crt is stuck in limbo because months worth of untranslated scans have to be drip fed for months on end, and that's assuming I get translations in a short amount of time. So even the making of crts have slowed to a massive crawl.

With how most staff/vsbw members aren't familiar/interested enough to show up for Rider-related stuff (minus matchups), trying to further limit this aspect by increasing necessary staff votes and activity is unnecessary crippling of a niche within a niche; like trying to pour cement on the legs of someone already walking on tar that is slowing them down.
 

I'm also open to improving the text itself, so if anyone has suggestions for a better phrasing or wording, it would be really great.

I'd like to perfect it and see if everyone is fine with the template before applying it to {{Popular Verse}}.
 
Thank you very much for helping out. I think that your template looks good. 🙏❤️
 
Hello, I received permission from DarkDragonMedeus to make this request here for transparency's sake.

I also suggest for the Godzilla series to not be put on the list of popular verses needing 3 votes for CRTs. The verse is far away from having an overwhelming popularity, as it has 3-4 active supporters (counting me), with me publishing most of the CRTs, as the CRTs published by other users this year can be counted on the fingers of my hand (even then, I have been quite inactive due to IRL stuff). Also, most staff members/VSBW members aren't familiar/interested in the verse to the point that there hasn't been any Godzilla CRT made by a staff member since 2020, IIRC (not even matchups). Usually one of my Godzilla CRTs would just be a desolate place, and it doesn't go anywhere, having to constantly ask for input from the staff members/VSBW members; otherwise, they would never participate there. Without counting that even if I'm lucky, getting 2 staff opinions in my Godzilla CRTs usually takes time, so turning it into a 3-vote-requiring verse would just worsen things even more without real revenue.

Godzilla as a Japanese Verse: almost all of its stuff needs translations. With much stuff that hasn't been translated by any translator, slowing down possible CRTs already before they can even start. One of my planned CRTs has been stuck in limbo for almost a year due to untranslated scans, as I explained to Ant a couple of months ago. Basically, making Godzilla CRTs is slow.

I usually struggle enough to find other people to do calculations for the verse (to the point where I had to go off-site to get some). I also struggle to get the Godzilla calculations evaluated by asking multiple times for help from different CGMs that usually ignore those requests.

In summary, in a similar way to the Ultra Series and Kamen Rider, by further limiting this aspect by increasing necessary staff votes and activity, it is an unnecessary way to slow down an already slow process.

As for how controversial the verse is on the wiki, the GodzillaVerse is no different than other verses on the wiki, with most controversial situations occurring off-site in places like Reddit. The situation on the forum is milder, as there have been no controversies with the verse for some time now, not to mention that most people are not interested in the GodzillaVerse. Thoughts?

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I think that the above requests to exclude various verses from our list seem reasonable so far. 🙏
 
Updated List (Let me know if I missed something):

List.
 
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