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Both are 7-A
Guy is restricted to the first gate
Speed is equalized
Rest is SBA
Bang: @Delusionaltx2, @Kachon123, @MrTayman616, @Kinggg121132
Might Guy:
Incon:
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Bang (OPM) vs Might Guy (Naruto) [3-0-0]
- Thread starter YmTheSuper
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Both are 7-A
Guy is restricted to the first gate
Speed is equalized
Rest is SBA
Bang: @Delusionaltx2, @Kachon123, @MrTayman616, @Kinggg121132
Might Guy:
Incon:
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So, Guy is only using the first gate?
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Delusionaltx2
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Guy in character doesn't use jutsu so he's wincons are non existent here
Bang>315 megatons
guy = 265 megatons
Voting bang via Ap advantage + Attack reflection(Wsrsf)
Bang>315 megatons
guy = 265 megatons
Voting bang via Ap advantage + Attack reflection(Wsrsf)
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They don't have any special abilities or anything, he just has far better skill feats with them than with pure martial arts imo.
With them he can keep up with highly skilled people with high tier precog like Obito even when he should have a stat disadvantage.
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They allow him to embody Bruce Lee
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I'll vote for Bang then. A simple change in weapons wouldn't be enough to overcome Bang, who's skill surpassed the concept of mastery.
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Yeah probably same. I'm only hesitant because I have a strong tendency to downplay Guy lmao
I mean sure but that does just sound like empty buzzwords on their own.
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Eh, in a verse with varios supernatural martial art styles and skill lords like Atomic Samurai and Garou, its a pretty good statement.
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I mean, it really depends on the context. It can mean as little as him just mastering shit more than others in the verse which really isn't that impressive.
Technically Guy is the greatest martial artist in his verse by WA, which would directly make him superior to PA Naruto who achieved a flawless martial art. So is "Transcending the concept of mastery" superior to surpassing "flawlessness"?
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Bang FRA
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I mean I'd definitely say so. He developed the ultimate and perfect defensive martial art (reiterated several times) and in his youth was already considered the greatest martial artist in the world. His skill only gets far better with age so even if we say that Guy is relative in skill to a younger Bang just based off of statements, that doesn't really compare to him in his current state.
And having mastery beyond the likes Atomic Samurai, Nichirin, and Gouketsu is very impressive.
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Problem is that statements of perfection and similar stuff like flawlessness on their own often don't mean much without feats suggesting what "perfection" exactly means (Ik ik, very Jordan Petersonass reply).
It could mean there are no exploitable weaknesses, it could mean it's effective against all known moves, it could mean it's performed at peak efficiency, etc etc.
This is also just too vague to really say much. In what way is he better? Can he predict his opponents moves more accurately? Can he hit his targets with greater precision? Does he have new deadly moves?
It's just hard to put into practice.
I mean yeah but so is being more skilled than, say Neji, Kakashi, or Naruto. Question is what exactly does that mean.
Ebihara
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Skill wank is what i live for.
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I have no issue with throwing away those flowery statements of perfection and flawlessness since the only reason they were brought up in the first place was because those were the only points of comparison.
This and this would be a good examples since we do see it in practice. So pretty much all 3 plus some.
Superior ki and body manipulation to use in all of their techniques, which is the root for nearly all styles and is what allows skilled fighters to preform feats like this and this. It's also how Bang developed his style.
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Bro guy doesn't have any wincons like seriously. He uses first gate for a while and then his body becomes heavy. This is probably a stomp
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I mean sure, but I only mentioned that in reference to the concept transcending point which I'd say belongs to the same ballpark
Yeah this is a solid example of a "perfect" statement imo. It clearly refers to Bangs ability to combine offense and defense which actually tells us a lot.
Seems like a reach but sure. You really like that hair feat lmao.
But like I said, I'm not arguing in favor of Guy, I just didn't agree with your reasoning. I think Bangs biggest advantage here is that he actually has techniques beyond basic martial arts like attack reflection and instictive action. You could probably argue Guy would be better in terms of predictions but not really to such a game-changing extent that it would give him an upper hand
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Not a reach when Nichirin specifically states that any martial master would say the same thing he did. Bang standing at the top would logically be doing the same, and it's even stated as such in the mechanics of the Water Stream Rock Smashing Fist. The hair feat was done specifically by using and sensing Ki so it's relevant.
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Bumping for interest
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Bang wins. Even with speed equalized and Guy limited to the First Gate, Bang's superior durability, technique, and precision give him the edge. Guy burns out quickly, while Bang’s Water-Stream Rock Smashing Fist allows him to deflect and counter effectively. Overall, Bang outlasts and overwhelms him.
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Uh, bump
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