• This forum is strictly intended to be used by members of the VS Battles wiki. Please only register if you have an autoconfirmed account there, as otherwise your registration will be rejected. If you have already registered once, do not do so again, and contact Antvasima if you encounter any problems.

    For instructions regarding the exact procedure to sign up to this forum, please click here.
  • We need Patreon donations for this forum to have all of its running costs financially secured.

    Community members who help us out will receive badges that give them several different benefits, including the removal of all advertisements in this forum, but donations from non-members are also extremely appreciated.

    Please click here for further information, or here to directly visit our Patreon donations page.
  • Please click here for information about a large petition to help children in need.

Gojo, Sukuna, Toji, Maki and anyone who scales above them are above 7-A.

Messages
51
Reaction score
11
Phantom Parade and Anime Canon included.

All screenshots are from JJK’s Phantom Parade or JJK's Manga.

AD_4nXcc68C1oP3F6jhQK8GWf_dhtunFJf3zNrKCg2fSyKitdqJ0VyFHKuoVM72jR6Yrb6LHq9bP6aD7kCee2Ipz5UE1Jp2y_4kadBaC-wCRC-pQrntjFqplXiTrHC5jLc2ElL1W1nCG

Fan-Subs will be used for Screenshots with the Official Translations attached above.
(Better Quality Images)

  • The Evanescence of Blue (JP) / Cherished Youth (UK) [Story Event]

This event takes place before Hidden Inventory and Premature Death because of Geto's character sticking to his original ideology from before Amani's death, showing compassion and worry for Non Sorcerers, shaming Curse Users and mismanagement of power, still working at Jujutsu High, etc, etc.

Official Translation:

"Satoru, doesn't that put what you're doing on the same level as a Curse User?"

AD_4nXegTAMeNzt0p5aDRkXaznhC09S7ZOb7iieql4tYKtKgVWLg_yOrXeBsgh2Dd6r_iN5PdvnY3P4X2MUCFaafPyu0vtlV7w2g22l-FwXc_mxj9zSAWBrBwkpvKiNiv901HKo8RnsX

Meaning that Mountain statement was from a Pre-Awakened Gojo instead of his Awakened Counterpart, No RCT means no Reversal Red, no Reversal Red, no Hollow Purple. Aka Blue by itself = Large Mountain Destructive Capacity. (DC)

AD_4nXfWb1uO0PCly9xWdjejoOTM6YXuNEYluAhDmU8hfFTUCf7Tok_ClLVesz6qZul7Y7-4Qs_qSCIX9lUTocDifaT3W3rK1FsJD8u52nF8F7SHiw6F3CpqjHE9XbATmR_CZDzbVuXbwg

Phantom Parade backs this up themselves, Teen Gojo used in this event is named "The Strongest Blue." and can't perform Reversal Red.


This travels over to Gojo’s Attack Potency (AP) and base strength once you break down how Gojo’s offence works.
AD_4nXdndx18xDFNlinPlgylBjHbAOMvLFE1ZnUmhfjOiwjcOLxeYoU63ZutAiZq0hN-vettKwB5JfCPp8ZdZHzgup4KLp3Fc4E6PRWdqW1uXVv5fpSxAM-drSgOwd8omzI-aRuPiAnOJQ

(Nothing suggests this was only learned after Awakening from RCT, Gojo was already recognized as the strongest while only being able to use Blue. I'd argue that we see him use it in #69)



Official Vol 12 summary states that Toji was psychically equal to Gojo at some point. (Maki too since she directly scales to Toji)

"On October 31, cursed spirits intending to imprison Satoru Gojo set a trap in Shibuya Station. Even surrounded by innocent civilians, Gojo is able to overwhelm his enemies… until Geto (???) seals him with Prison Realm! Meanwhile, Yuji, with the help of Mechamaru, defeats the curse user who cast the curtain that was hindering jujutsu sorcerers. As the jujutsu sorcerers frantically try to rescue Gojo, a séance technique cast by one of the curse users reincarnates a formidable opponent who once fought with a strength on par with Gojo—Toji Zen’in!!"


(Obviously intended to be talking about Pre-Awakening Gojo but that doesn't make too much of a difference here with that version of Gojo already having Large Mountain AP and DC.)


AD_4nXf3gs_48-HskAxpq9joRV23hRDXpolX2-jG1wnBpiSWsgoIvhOTTSLSXGKn6mw26BXRNvZGWWYSjF7mOWquHa3iEDDswq0rc1j-erXuCFfCM-h0jAYZ4xFZ15PVKdinURhEB5qu0g




And while I'm pretty sure this part goes without saying but just in case.

Sukuna directly scales to Gojo’s strength because of the Battle of Shinjuku, although he’s arguably less equipped in H2H, his physical strength was still able to evenly match a version of Gojo whose output and Mastery was far above his Teenage Incarnation while in Megumi's body, This reasonably places both of them well above 7-A, whereas Toji and Maki still remain capped at that level. And that’s without even mentioning Heian Sukuna, whose strength outright surpasses Shinjuku Gojo.

Last Minute Addition but it's probably a tinyy bit higher than 7-A for Toji and Maki with how casually Gojo suggested destroying the Mountain!
AD_4nXdJHwz2shZ1aCXoLEt5Zzhb3Dp3MIPAALcZby-_nzqGr16I0D3XbYCRJ0nO2EBqNpmZP7CVkcsOwOa1BJNYZADIZbcYLxHI4LPJ2St-a2VeN-NPjdKVTXev9t3aBudn30Xs4UatVw



Clearing up common misconceptions about Phantom Parade and Gojo's statement.

  • "That Mountain Statement doesn't mean anything, it's just HI Gojo being Cocky!- it's Hyperbolic!"
I’d agree if the entire purpose of Evanescence of Blue wasn’t repeatedly vouching for Gojo, it's 15 minutes of Gojo and everyone in the story affirming that this was something that he could actually do at the time, Geto agrees that he's capable of it but says it should be kept to a last resort. (Not wanting to out-out Jujutsu High because there wasn't a way to reasonably cover up a entire ******* mountain vanishing over night.) Shoko also reaffirms the statement without issue. Although the biggest smoking gun comes later in the story, when the Higher-Ups give Gojo permission and start clearing out towns in the days leading up to the date before finally setting up a Veil for Gojo to destroy it. (This is the ENTIRE mountain for the record, Bottom to the Summit.)

Story pushes this as quick singular attack that Gojo should be able to pull-off and 'destroy the whole mountain and everything near it' with. There's absolutely nothing in here that goes with the interruption of this being repeated or spammed versions of Lapse Blue.

Official Translation:


“Suguru. The Assistant Supervisor is preparing the "Curtain" at the foot of the mountain, so you should meet him there.”


AD_4nXctEWNHPz72-r83WmzB1aw7FZGRaQ8bbAzpNzQeNrJczb15voAffT_g75gqWly_HCxBrMbX8XISsrgmyGDNbKy5v-BoeLTUfUdg32UPMfnZaYKr2UOZWDZUZfRh-aQquaPO2o1_UA



  • "Phantom Parade isn't canon because Gege didn't write it!"


Gege has had direct involvement in Phantom Parade’s production mainly with Hanami’s domain where Gege assisted them in designing it and bringing it to light, alongside some minor overseeing of the Main Story, essentiality the same input he had for the Anime. He later gave it the game the seal of approval when it released globally, drawing a sketch for it and calling it “Faithfully adapted!” in the attached Kanji, like he’s repeatedly done for MAPPA’s changes. Bilibili Studios also stated that the game takes place in the “TV ANIME!”
AD_4nXdoMQLZvdgOJXeGQqP6ezkrQxggiqsTOgDvy4Zlf4qpmHhyHl7z4sR9wUTunQ371vVQPRXedaMkU5kG7a9fl3OkMH9cXDyFnXzRtkWf-Aq_9Q53kVTIKgAyVurZ4eahr3ZI_XcWTQ
 
Last edited:
Hey man I get what your trying to do

But there is a discussion thread where you can talk about JJK, We arent even sure if its fully accepted for the canon of phantom parade and the anime

Also welcome to the wiki but slow your roll for a bit
 
For one, read this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_Potency#Attack_Potency
Also, kindly remember that Attack Potency is the measure of Destructive Capacity of an attack, and as such, is measured via its energy damage equivalent. Hence, characters that destroy mountains or islands are not automatically mountain or island level, especially if they are small. The attack potency depends on the energy output of a single attack, not the area of effect of the attack. Keep in mind that certain tiers do not necessarily correspond to the destruction of their namesakes in any meaningful fashion. This is because the minimum requirements for these tiers are arbitrary values.

Here is a list of the tiers in question:
9-A: Small Building level (0.005 tons-0.25 tons)
8-C: Building level (0.25 tons-2 tons)
High 8-C: Large Building level (2 tons-11 tons)
8-B: City Block level (11 tons-100 tons)
8-A: Multi-City Block level (100 tons-1 kiloton)
Low 7-C: Small Town level (1 kiloton-5.8 kilotons)
7-C: Town level (5.8 kilotons-100 kilotons)
High 7-C: Large Town level (100 kilotons-1 megatons)
Low 7-B: Small City level (1 megatons-6.3 megatons)
7-A: Mountain level (100 megatons-1 gigaton)
High 7-A: Large Mountain level (1 gigaton-4.3 gigatons)
High 6-C: Large Island level (100 gigatons-1 teraton)
Low 6-B: Small Country level (1 teraton-7 teratons)
High 6-B: Large Country level (100 teratons-760 teratons)

Destroying a mountain can be as low as Tier 8 depending on the method of destruction and timeframe of the feat. We've seen how Teen Gojo uses Maximum Output Blue to crush a ball of mass as he drags blue along an object, and he'd likely blow away the mountain in the same manner. In that case we're working with a feat from a non-canon mobile game that is done through Spatial Manip and has an unquantifiable timeframe... Yeah, no.
 
For one, read this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_Potency#Attack_Potency


Destroying a mountain can be as low as Tier 8 depending on the method of destruction and timeframe of the feat. We've seen how Teen Gojo uses Maximum Output Blue to crush a ball of mass as he drags blue along an object, and he'd likely blow away the mountain in the same manner. In that case we're working with a feat from a non-canon mobile game that is done through Spatial Manip and has an unquantifiable timeframe... Yeah, no.
Timeframe falls under under anywhere from a few seconds to a maximum of two minutes, and the Game is Anime Canon, I'd argue that use of Lapse Blue doesn't even really contradict or make it impossible for Phantom Parade to co-exist with it, enough wiggle-room to safety put them both aside eachother
 
Last edited:
For one, read this page: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Attack_Potency#Attack_Potency


Destroying a mountain can be as low as Tier 8 depending on the method of destruction and timeframe of the feat. We've seen how Teen Gojo uses Maximum Output Blue to crush a ball of mass as he drags blue along an object, and he'd likely blow away the mountain in the same manner. In that case we're working with a feat from a non-canon mobile game that is done through Spatial Manip and has an unquantifiable timeframe... Yeah, no.
SunDaGamer - Destroyer of JJK
Can anyone make a Yakuza Intro?
 
Timeframe falls under under anywhere from a few seconds to a maximum of two minutes, and the Game is Anime Canon, I'd argue that use of Lapse Blue doesn't even really contradict or make it impossible for Phantom Parade to co-exist with it, enough wiggle-room to safety put them both aside eachother
What's the timeframe based on?
"Mach 3" still gives me nightmares
An agenda pusher's worst nightmare: authorial intent
 
What's the timeframe based on?

An agenda pusher's worst nightmare: authorial intent
2 minute Timeframe is how long the veil was active for Gojo to destroy the Mountain, although there's a last minute change between Geto and Gojo where they decide to let the Cursed Spirit be born and then deal with it then. This is never disclosed to the director holding up the Veil, There's also a scene at the start where Gojo looks like he was about to destroy the Mountain before he's stopped by Geto, this is again backed up by the story later with it being "The quickest way to do things!"
 
Last edited:
Timeframe falls under under anywhere from a few seconds to a maximum of two minutes, and the Game is Anime Canon.
You got any concrete evidence for that timeframe? Or a source actually saying Phantom Parade is part of the manga canon? Anime canon doesn't even work as a cop-out here because Phantom Parade isn't affiliated with the story in Mappa's adaptation give me one instance of one of those randos from the "Fukuoka Branch" or that Cursed Spirit that looks like a DeviantArt OC pulling up in the anime and stealing Sukuna's whole flow by taking Ten Shadows from Megumi.

He later gave it the game the seal of approval when it released globally, drawing a sketch for it and calling it “Faithfully adapted!” in the attached Kanji, like he’s repeatedly done for MAPPA’s changes. Bilibili Studios also stated that the game takes place in the “TV ANIME!”
Get that translation actually checked by a translation helper too, machine translation is telling me Gege's just hyping up the gameplay for recreating the fights in JJK and having things like having Domain Expansion
 
You got any concrete evidence for that timeframe? Or a source actually saying Phantom Parade is part of the manga canon? Anime canon doesn't even work as a cop-out here because Phantom Parade isn't affiliated with the story in Mappa's adaptation give me one instance of one of those randos from the "Fukuoka Branch" or that Cursed Spirit that looks like a DeviantArt OC pulling up in the anime and stealing Sukuna's whole flow by taking Ten Shadows from Megumi.


Get that translation actually checked by a translation helper too, machine translation is telling me Gege's just hyping up the gameplay for recreating the fights in JJK and having things like having Domain Expansion
2 minute Timeframe is how long the veil was active for Gojo to destroy the Mountain, although there's a last minute change between Geto and Gojo where they decide to let the Cursed Spirit be born and then deal with it then. This is never disclosed to the director holding up the Veil, There's also a scene at the start where Gojo looks like he was about to destroy the Mountain before he's stopped by Geto, this is again backed up by the story later with it being "The quickest way to do things!"

Fukuoka Branch and Rozetsu don't exist within the Game Universe either, see here.
 
Last edited:
Nothing here whatsoever says this is even canon, all it says is that Gege was involved
We've got the Bilibili Studios statement about it taking place in the "WORLD OF THE TV ANIME!", the deliberate effort to keep Canon stable between it and the Anime (Yuta's unit being able to use black flash, Cursed Spirit's domain, etc, etc) and Gege's involvement being a leading factor in why some people consider it canon, equally as canon as the Anime exclusive changes are, ticks all of the boxes that are used for arguing in favor of it
 
We've got the Bilibili Studios statement about it taking place in the "WORLD OF THE TV ANIME!", the deliberate effort to keep Canon stable between it and the Anime (Yuta's unit being able to use black flash, Cursed Spirit's domain, etc, etc) and Gege's involvement being a leading factor in why some people consider it canon, equally as canon as the Anime exclusive changes are, ticks all of the boxes that are used for arguing in favor of it
Add all of these in the OP.

Gege's involvement means absolutely nothing. If it's stated to be in the world of the TV anime it needs to be added to the OP.
And with that, it's in the anime's world, not the manga's. Our profiles are manga profiles
 
Add all of these in the OP.

Gege's involvement means absolutely nothing. If it's stated to be in the world of the TV anime it needs to be added to the OP.
And with that, it's in the anime's world, not the manga's. Our profiles are manga profiles
Well I'd argue against that but it's your form, not mine and I've already got that stated there, wdym?
Bilibili Studios also stated that the game takes place in the “TV ANIME!”
 
I will say, the game being canon to the anime is absolutely legit; it’s plastered every which way in marketing and in-game shit.

Buuuuuuuut we don’t even accept the anime as a primary canon source; only a secondary one. This being canon to the anime is basically the equivalent of filler at best. Also, I’ve personally looked all over, and besides a few designs for characters and moves, Gege seems to have next to no involvement with the game, let alone the story and feats.

Honestly, this gives more of a reason to have anime-only profiles.
 
I translated the raws and it didn't say that. I recommend double checking them.
Don't have the raws on me, from my knowledge it's got no way to be a mistranslation because of the way it's handled in the Volume releases, and it's pretty well accepted at least in the communities I'm in, what did it come out as for you then?
 
I will say, the game being canon to the anime is absolutely legit; it’s plastered every which way in marketing and in-game shit.

Buuuuuuuut we don’t even accept the anime as a primary canon source; only a secondary one. This being canon to the anime is basically the equivalent of filler at best. Also, I’ve personally looked all over, and besides a few designs for characters and moves, Gege seems to have next to no involvement with the game, let alone the story and feats.

Honestly, this gives more of a reason to have anime-only profiles.
Should have done my VSBW homework smh
 
Don't have the raws on me, from my knowledge it's got no way to be a mistranslation because of the way it's handled in the Volume releases, and it's pretty well accepted at least in the communities I'm in, what did it come out as for you then?
It just didn't even mention that. Also, volumes still have werryisms
 
It just didn't even mention that. Also, volumes still have werryisms
You keep saying it didn't mention that but you've not got any source, I can't see it being "on-par" being mistranslated as anything there, and I don't think this would be one of the times where Werry balls it and gives us "Malevolent Shrine got wasted"
 
Just get the raws and send it to the Translation Request Thread, that’ll clear up the debate.
 
Back
Top