OI JOSUKE! THIS SQUID IS MAD AT ME FOR HOLDING STRAY CAT! (JOJO Pt 4 vs JJK)

[Bimbitesthedust]

The Main Morioh Trio vs The Disaster Curse of The Sea

Dagon Fanart by Prize-Ad9743 on Reddit (Link)

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Lore

In this hypothetical scenario, two universes intersect and fuse into one, as JuJutsu Tech has begun to work with The Speedwagon foundation and with the suspicion for a dangerous event in Shibuya, the speedwagon foundation has begun to look for the Joestars as they need the help of powerful stand users such as Jotaro Kujo.

9 pm

Satoru Gojo has been sealed
With the strongest of Jujutsu Tech now sealed by the effects of the disaster curse, the spirits would split as they each go into different directions. However in this timeline, Hanami lives and would encounter Maki, Nanami and Naobito; Meanwhile the stand users Josuke Higashikata, Okuyasu Nijimura and Koichi Hirose have been dispatched to go save and protect people. As the trio are looking for the people who were in the station with Okuyasu bringing in Stray Cat as support the trio would encounter the cursed womb of the sea Dagon. Koichi, being a bit worried as the cursed spirit would vomit the bones of countless victims as Dagon would proceed to crawl around crying. It would pitifully mutter the words of each of the disaster curses but would sense that Hanami is in horrible condition with the sight of Okuyasu fidgeting stray cat being enough to anger it.

The Disaster Curse would evolve, becoming its adult form as it would disperse a large sea of water, throwing back the trio as Stray cat would fly away thanks to the current pushing them. Okuyasu is annoyed that the plant would be out of his hand but before the trio gets it back, it has to deal with the monster of the sea.

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Rules

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• • Speed is Equalized (I will say Equalize stand speed aswell so no Stand Shenanigans)
  • both start 75 meters away from each other
  • Battle takes place in the shinjiku station
  • Stray cat will be around 20 meters away from the trio
  • SBA
  • Late PT 4 version of Josuke, Okuyasu and Koichi are used
  • We are using Fully Formed Dagon however he hasnt used Domain yet (Its the same scenario as the original dagon fight)
  • the trio is aware that Dagon is more powerful than them and has the AP advantage

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Stats

Josuke - At least building (Downscales from 7.83 tons of TNT im guessing) to atmost 7.83 Tons of TNT (Dagon could talk so it is possible). Can negate durability via restoration
Okuyasu - Atleast small building with the hand, can negate durability via spatial elimination
Koichi - Small Building level w ACT 2 (0.04671999762 tons of tnt), At least Small Building Level via ACT 3, Can negate durability via SFX

Dagon - Atleast 25.2 Tons of TNT im guessing, can buff stats via Domain

Also small thing for LS. Josuke is unknown on LS, Koichi is peak human and Okuyasu w the hand is class 5. Dagon is Class 5 aswell

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Combatants	Votes
The Morioh Trio (and the cat)
The Disaster Curse of The Sea	@Rogue_Forge
Inconclusive (Megumi comes in and brings Jotaro to Platinum Tear Dagon)

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

forgot to add something but its fine now

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Damn, now that I look at the profiles, Dagon has a massive AP advantage, I thought Okayasu was like Large Building level but aight

Dagon cant see or even damage stands (Stands are spiritual, spirit/souls are distinctly different from CE so verse equalization wont help) so his only real bet is to pop a domain and yeah he prolly just one shots all of them with cause of the AP advantage, can they even see the fish to avoid it? I don't think so cause again, even with verse equalization Spirit/Soul does not equal Cursed Energy

The only way I can see the morioh trio winning is if they can see CE and Okayasu carries a dub by constantly using ZE HANDO to erase stuff till they erase Dagon, even then DE is prolly still an auto win

What da cat doin

Voting for Dagon for now unless I'm missing something or you change some of the rules

 

[Rogue_Forge]

oh and the fact domain grant auto hitting? yeah Dagon wins based off that alone, not a lot of counters to that in all of JJBA

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Damn, now that I look at the profiles, Dagon has a massive AP advantage, I thought Okayasu was like Large Building level but aight

Dagon cant see or even damage stands (Stands are spiritual, spirit/souls are distinctly different from CE so verse equalization wont help) so his only real bet is to pop a domain and yeah he prolly just one shots all of them with cause of the AP advantage, can they even see the fish to avoid it? I don't think so cause again, even with verse equalization Spirit/Soul does not equal Cursed Energy

The only way I can see the morioh trio winning is if they can see CE and Okayasu carries a dub by constantly using ZE HANDO to erase stuff till they erase Dagon, even then DE is prolly still an auto win

What da cat doin

Voting for Dagon for now unless I'm missing something or you change some of the rules

Ill edit that both sides can interact with each other, even though I could see the case of them being able to see dagon and vice versa

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Ill edit that both sides can interact with each other, even though I could see the case of them being able to see dagon and vice versa

aight, bit more fair now

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

aight, bit more fair now

Yeah nothing I see indicates that curse spirits cant be seen

Although funny enough stand invisibility might be layered enough to where Dagon cant see them. So stand users can see dagon but dagon cant see stands

Also characteristically Dagon doesnt instantly use domain unless he is in grave danger as Domains are usually one use per day abilities due to the amount of CE needed to summon and stabilize it

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

But yeah Dagon could simply oneshot two out of the three (with Josuke being a 3x gap at atleast if we use the RHCP feat and the Finger Bearer feat)

 

[Baken384]

Speed is Equalized (I will say Equalize stand speed aswell so no Stand Shenanigans)

 

[Emerald]

Yea the range screws all of them. 75 meters is more than enough for Dagon to outrange with a massive wave against guys that have short range type stands (1-2 meters)
Also the AP gap is ludicrous, Dagon is 8-B+ and the strongest guy there is 8-C (0.76 tons) a difference of about 79.28571429 times

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Ill edit that both sides can interact with each other, even though I could see the case of them being able to see dagon and vice versa

Then this can't be added since you gave them abilities they don't normally have.

 

[Emerald]

Not sure if they can see Curses, reading it is because they are a second light. Stands users see supernatural entities mostly because they are in the same "wavelength"

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Alright a couple of things before I go since I do have a busy day today

1) I might take out that rule since looking at the pages I do think the trio should effectively be able to hurt dagon (Stands have limited soul manipulation and have enhanced vision so they could see and harm dagon

2) The main deal is Hax vs AP since while dagon may have range and oneshotting potential, the trio do have ways of killing via duraneg. Additionally they could move around the station since it is massive and the waves only appear to drag people as I dont see anything about it harming

3) Stray Cat could provide a unique defense in air bubbles as seen with Kira (although it doesnt seem to be weaponized like Kira) Okuyasu could use it since hes got the most care for it

4) For 1, Im pretty sure there was a case where if people are in danger or there is imminent danger so that might give atleast one way to seeing Dagon

@Rogue_Forge Ill count your vote

 

[Emerald]

2) The main deal is Hax vs AP since while dagon may have range and oneshotting potential, the trio do have ways of killing via duraneg. Additionally they could move around the station since it is massive and the waves only appear to drag people as I dont see anything about it harming

The waves are so powerful that 8-C characters had to dodge cause it was too dangerous and is superior these same 8-C guy's attacks.

3) Stray Cat could provide a unique defense in air bubbles as seen with Kira (although it doesnt seem to be weaponized like Kira) Okuyasu could use it since hes got the most care for it

Using Stray Cat wouldnt work, the Stand acts by itself and it wont defend anyone else other than Tama itself... how the hell will it create a bubble to defend anyone?

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

The waves are so powerful that 8-C characters had to dodge cause it was too dangerous and is superior these same 8-C guy's attacks.

Using Stray Cat wouldnt work, the Stand acts by itself and it wont defend anyone else other than Tama itself... how the hell will it create a bubble to defend anyone?

1) The trio do have alot of mobility in their abilities, Josuke can make walls breaking breaking the floor n such to block water, Okuyasu can use the hand to pseudo tp and Koichi could utilize any act to potentially deal w the water

2) I would imagine if someone like Okuyasu grabbed a hold of Stray Cat he could direct it towards any physical blow Dagon may make which could be blocked (Kind of Similar to how it was done w kira via it blocking due to the punch of CD being targeted towards it (in the stomach). Though the obvious difference is where KQ becomes the krang robot from TMNT Okuyasu has to do this

Though granted this would need Okuyasu to use a bit more of his brain which is hard

Also I just realized has no one ever did a calc on the amount of water Dagon or Max elephant can make?

 

[Emerald]

1) The trio do have alot of mobility in their abilities, Josuke can make walls breaking breaking the floor n such to block water, Okuyasu can use the hand to pseudo tp and Koichi could utilize any act to potentially deal w the water

Water would still flood and go through the cracks of the wall barrier (besides actual 8-C attacks have destroyed the walls before, Dagon shoots a massive wave that keeps on going and isnt just a single explosion like KQ's bubble bombs)
Koichi literally has nothing going for him to deal with 8-C water that would kill him and his Stand.

2) I would imagine if someone like Okuyasu grabbed a hold of Stray Cat he could direct it towards any physical blow Dagon may make which could be blocked (Kind of Similar to how it was done w kira via it blocking due to the punch of CD being targeted towards it (in the stomach). Though the obvious difference is where KQ becomes the krang robot from TMNT Okuyasu has to do this

Stray Cat's bubbles are 8-C, it aint blocking most of Dagon's attacks and it also has bad range and will only protect Stray Cat (Like how is okuyasu going to block a massive tens of meters long aoe attack with a small ass plant?)

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Alright so with this being a potential stomp what would be better to do

1) make the range smaller (Ex being 10 meters)

2) switch out Dagon for the first finger bearer that 3f Sukuna showcased Domain to neg

 

[AigerTheKing]

Alright so with this being a potential stomp what would be better to do

1) make the range smaller (Ex being 10 meters)

What would that change?

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

What would that change?

Much easier for the trio to kill dagon since they are close (Ex being that Okuyasu has a better chance to dura neg dagon, etc)

Keep in mind that Dagon is in a 1v3 against a trio that has varying levels of dura neg

First finger bearer is likely far weaker than dagon (though im not sure on dagons specific AP and dura but first finger bearer should be weaker than the second im guessing which has the 25.2 Tons of TNT calc)

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Main issue I see is that the long range is hard since the stands are more close quarters (Koichi being the exception but hes not the standard range character if I recall) so Dagon just shoots water and it kills them

 

[AigerTheKing]

Much easier for the trio to kill dagon since they are close (Ex being that Okuyasu has a better chance to dura neg dagon, etc)

Keep in mind that Dagon is in a 1v3 against a trio that has varying levels of dura neg

First finger bearer is likely far weaker than dagon (though im not sure on dagons specific AP and dura but first finger bearer should be weaker than the second im guessing which has the 25.2 Tons of TNT calc)

Sounds like Dagon is cooked if that's the case

 

[Bimbitesthedust]

Sounds like Dagon is cooked if that's the case

Its realistically who gets the best chance at hitting the shot

Josuke and Koichi while they do have duraneg arent really the best ones because Okuyasu has the best one (which is concerning since Okuyasus a bit of a dumbass). Josuke requires the merging of restoration to duraneg and Koichi needs sfx which would need application to utilize

 

[Emerald]

They could win if they all teamed up together, but the problem is well


75 meter distance

 

[StrymULTRA]

Ill edit that both sides can interact with each other, even though I could see the case of them being able to see dagon and vice versa

You cannot restrict abilities that do not affect the tier of the character.

It is not fine to restrict abilities in a versus matchup, implicitly or expressly. Matches that are arranged this way should not be added to the character profiles, as they don't involve their full potential, and are only intended for casual entertainment.

• An exception would be if the restricted ability/technique has a separate tier from the main one, and is one the character can consciously restrict themselves from using. In this case, the match can be added.

 

[Lynieryz]

Speed is Equalized (I will say Equalize stand speed aswell so no Stand Shenanigans)

↑↑↑ The battle couldn't even be added anyway, OP equalized the speed of the Stands, this goes against the speed equalization rules.