Myriad's Metallurgy: Albion & Omni-Man Vs. The Outsider & Conquest (Venefica Chronicles & Invincible Vs. Gensokyo Odyssy & Invincible) [LR2M1]

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Albion

Albion is a Mechanical Warrior from Neptune Inc. sent to work with the New Monster Association and study the powers of the Monsters there. Although he never left the monster base, he was aware of the damage Akumo was doing to them, though he was more focused on the impending hero invasion, since...

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Omni-Man (TV Series)

Nolan Grayson is the father of up and coming superhero Mark Grayson, who’s also known as Invincible. He is a Viltrumite who was assigned custody over Earth from his home world, Viltrum. For 23 years he’s served as one of Earth’s greatest and most powerful heroes under the moniker of Omni-Man...

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The Outsider (Gensokyo Odyssey)

The Outsider is the main character of the Touhou fangame Gensokyo Odyssey by Kronington. They are an ordinary school boy who gets invited by Yukari Yakumo to visit Gensokyo which they immediatly refuse, instead trying to get to school and ending up there anyways thanks to cotton candy offered by...

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Conquest (TV Series)

Conquest is a notable antagonist in Invincible, serving as the antagonist of Season 3's final episode. He is a high-ranking Viltrumite veteran warrior and among the most powerful of the Viltrum Empire, who aids the Viltrumite mission to make it the only empire in the universe. Tier: At least Low...

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Rules:
Albion will be in his Post-Aiden Data Copy Key while The Outsider will be in his Mid-Game Key
All combatants are given standard equipment and speed is equalized, SBA applies
RESTRICTIONS LISTED HERE (The Outsider has a few)

Notes:
Albion has a 96.71x AP advantage over Conquest
Albion & Omni-Man have the LS advantage over The Outsider
Albion has the Stamina advantage over The Outsider & Conquest
Albion has the Range advantage over Conquest
Albion & Omni-Man have the IQ and Combat IQ advantage over The Outsider & Conquest

Omni-Man & Conquest have roughly the same AP
The Outsider, Conquest & Omni-Man have the same Stamina
Conquest & Omni-Man have about the same maximum Range

The Outsider has a 102.833x AP advantage over Omni-Man and a 1.06x AP advantage over Albion
Conquest has the LS advantage over Albion
The Outsider has a heavy Range advantage over Albion & Omni-Man

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

This is the character that can't even die right?

Sorta feel like that clears up who wins right there. Outsider FRA

 

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This is the character that can't even die right?

Sorta feel like that clears up who wins right there. Outsider FRA

Well not exactly...since The Outsider can't die, an inconclusive result counts as a loss for their team within the tournament bracket. It depends mostly on the abilities their team collectively has, and Conquest doing much to help him is still unlikely...a debate can be had over this, it's the reason this team is in the losers bracket anyway :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Well not exactly...since The Outsider can't die, an inconclusive result counts as a loss for their team within the tournament bracket. It depends mostly on the abilities their team collectively has, and Conquest doing much to help him is still unlikely...a debate can be had over this, it's the reason this team is in the losers bracket anyway :3

Suppose youre correct. I guess I can try…

Ofc Albion starts with his scanners. He scans his opponent for general capabilities, which is anruff like their ap, their weaknesses, just the base level stuff. He also quickly uses battlefield mapping.

 

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Ofc Albion starts with his scanners. He scans his opponent for general capabilities, which is anruff like their ap, their weaknesses, just the base level stuff. He also quickly uses battlefield mapping.

I got good news and bad news about that-

Good news? Now Albion knows that attempting to attack The Outsider will result in an air hockey game (at least i'm pretty sure). The Outsider is also very unlikely to convince Conquest to help him out in battles that aren't physical.
Bad news? Attempting to attack The Outsider will result in an air hockey game...so it'd be best to argue how Albion & Omni-Man would do in a match like that. You'll have to successfully argue that The Outsider & Conquest would not beat the 2 with a million+ attempts. Oh, and...Powers & Abilities help here more than AP and a lot of physical stuff does, so arguments should mostly proceed with those :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

I got good news and bad news about that-

Good news? Now Albion knows that attempting to attack The Outsider will result in an air hockey game (at least i'm pretty sure). The Outsider is also very unlikely to convince Conquest to help him out in battles that aren't physical.
Bad news? Attempting to attack The Outsider will result in an air hockey game...so it'd be best to argue how Albion & Omni-Man would do in a match like that. You'll have to successfully argue that The Outsider & Conquest would not beat the 2 with a million+ attempts. Oh, and...Powers & Abilities help here more than AP and a lot of physical stuff does, so arguments should mostly proceed with those :3

Albion is a very intelligent machine with infinite stamina, not a question of if he can hang in there or not. Can outsider beat a machine at air hockey?

 

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Albion is a very intelligent machine with infinite stamina, not a question of if he can hang in there or not. Can outsider beat a machine at air hockey?

We'll have to wait for Diamond Drone before that can happen, I'm not all that versed in The Outsider's capabilities

 

[Diamond_Drone]

I mentioned this before, but the Outsider is mostly equalized in stats of the strongest opponent due to how his empowerment works, meaning he probably won't have that AP advantage over Albion (though it's so small it's basically irrelevant). Also both Omni-Man and Conquest are dead very, so I'll just be talking about the Outsider vs Albion.

The Outsider has two ways of attacking: sending the puck into the opponents goal or by using SPECIAL, both are pretty much guranteed hits but they can't really be spammed, which means Albion would probably be able to regenerate since the Outsider doesn't have enough knowledge of his own abilities or of his opponent to even try to target a specific point with all his power to bypass it (+ Albion's regen is not magical in nature I think? meaning the Outsider can't nullify it like with Eirin in his own game).

Basically he would have to deal enough damage to Albion's "HP" to create lots of miniature explosions and hopefully deal enough damage to his head or critical parts to bypass his Low-Mid regeneration... while dealing with his regeneration in battle like with Eirin. Depending on how good Albion's abilities are, the Outsider could probably last for a while with his HEAL ability to heal any damage sustained but that's probably it. Do remember that the Outsider's best wincon against another soulless character with non-magical Regeneration in this Tourney was to have Conquest carry that opponent into space, which ended up being useless anyway in more ways than one.

 

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Bump :0

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Albion has more than just the regen, he also has his High Suppression Field which lets him absorb High 6-B energy attacks (which probably only matters if the air hockey stuff is made of energy? Even if not, it can still protect him as a regular passive barrier unless broken by one specific ‘overwhelming’ attack, barrages don’t count). In addition he also has his passive sapping ability which would drain otusider’s energy and transfer it to Albion, though I’m unsure how applicable it is to this manner of fighting.

Could also try Neptune Wave to just get outsider to stop thinking, that is if such a thing would work during the whole air hockey thing.

 

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Bump :3

Where did diamond drone go?-

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

No idea

But if my points won’t be refuted, I see no reason why stuff like Neptune wave wouldn’t work. So I lean for Albion.

I’ll give it a bit before I vote though

 

[Diamond_Drone]

Albion has more than just the regen, he also has his High Suppression Field which lets him absorb High 6-B energy attacks (which probably only matters if the air hockey stuff is made of energy? Even if not, it can still protect him as a regular passive barrier unless broken by one specific ‘overwhelming’ attack, barrages don’t count). In addition he also has his passive sapping ability which would drain otusider’s energy and transfer it to Albion, though I’m unsure how applicable it is to this manner of fighting.

I mean, the energy attacks in Gensokyo Odyssey are based on magic and the Outsider only uses the singular energy he has (the bomb) defensively, though the air table is implied to transfer the Outsider's physical damage towards the opponent in the End Game as the boss there is immune to Magic specifically harming her. It would mean that the air hockey table would be fine even with it's energy sapped.

Also the Outsider can't barrage, at most he can probably cast SPECIAL like... two times with max MP I think? But if the Outsider is getting their energy sapped, I don't think they'd be able to do that anyway.

Could also try Neptune Wave to just get outsider to stop thinking, that is if such a thing would work during the whole air hockey thing.

Well, I don't think there's anything suggesting it wouldn't work on the Outsider, however if he tries to kill him after that then the battle would... restart, with neither of them knowing of how the previous attempt went. The only way for Albion to win by SBA standards would be to let the Outsider "win" the air hockey battle, regenerate and then stomp the unempowered human, though I don't know in-character that would be for them to do or if they'd know about the restarts (the Outsider would probably still survive thanks to Yukari, though due to how slow his recovery was shown to be with her help and him becoming immensely slower after leaving combat, he'd probably be BFR'd and Incap'd for over a day)

It's probably an Incon leaning on Albion's side (and Omni-Man) honestly, so I'm just gonna... vote that.

 

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Incon FRA, then :3

 

[VeneficaAuthor]

Incon FRA

What does it mean for the tourney?

 

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Incon FRA

What does it mean for the tourney?

Since The Outsider can't really die, The Outsider & Conquest will be eliminated via the inconclusive result :0

Albion & Omni-Man will be next to go up against Soul & Nhazul :3