The Strongest Morons (Naruto Uzumaki vs Gen Narumi{Kaiju No.8}) 0-1-0

[MysticBrawler]

Naruto Uzumaki(Birth of the Ten-Tails’ Jinchūriki)

Gen Narumi(Numbers Weapon Suit)-1

Distance: 1 kilometer
Speed Equal
Naruto starts in 6-C Kyubi Chakra Mode and can access his higher modes
SBA for the rest

 

[MysticBrawler]

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[karo_senpaii]

Naruto Uzumaki(Birth of the Ten-Tails’ Jinchūriki)

Gen Narumi(Numbers Weapon Suit)

Distance: 1 kilometer
Speed Equal
Naruto starts in 6-C Kyubi Chakra Mode and can access his higher modes
SBA for the rest

You restricted his possibly why?

 

[karo_senpaii]

Also what's wrong with gen's profile. Why is he still high hypersonic? Didn't the verse get a major upgrade?

 

[KobsterHope07]

Also what's wrong with gen's profile. Why is he still high hypersonic? Didn't the verse get a major upgrade?

Mostly because his feats without RT-0001 put him at that level and it is noted he doesn’t become physically faster with RT-0001

With RT-0001, he can hang with those far above him, he varies depending on the opponent but it has allow him to predict, react, dodge and severely overwhelm a FTL character like Meireki-chan to the point of having to legit wait until Gen’s body fall apart to counter attack despite having thought-based paralysis, teleportation and invisible spawn attacks. And Gen started their battle being weaken, exhausted, broken ribs and suffering from brain damage due to damaging his cerebral nerves

 

[karo_senpaii]

Mostly because his feats without RT-0001 put him at that level and it is noted he doesn’t become physically faster with RT-0001

With RT-0001, he can hang with those far above him, he varies depending on the opponent but it has allow him to predict, react, dodge and severely overwhelm a FTL character like Meireki-chan to the point of having to legit wait until Gen’s body fall apart to counter attack despite having thought-based paralysis, teleportation and invisible spawn attacks. And Gen started their battle being weaken, exhausted, broken ribs and suffering from brain damage due to damaging his cerebral nerves

That's actually ridiculous . His eyes should not even be able to perceive speeds tens if not Hundreds of thousands of times faster than him

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

That's actually ridiculous . His eyes should not even be able to perceive speeds tens if not Hundreds of thousands of times faster than him

I know right? That's like some Re:Zero kind of BS.

 

[KobsterHope07]

It just how it works, similar to Adam’s Divine Reflection from Record of Ragnarok. There is a reason why characters keep beating readers over the head that it let one perform attacks consistently stated to be “inescapable” or surehits”.

Even when the Daikaiju of the Meireki Era was passively messing with his RT-0001’s ability due to Gen at the time not being used to dealing with being bombarded with hundreds of futures/signals from one target rather than spread out and growing stronger and faster due to possessing all of Kaiju No. 9’s abilities, he was still actively dodging and reacting to its every attacks that should have otherwise blitz and one-shot him but just couldn’t land his infamous inescapable attacks/surehits until he truly lock in and adapted

This is not even accounting for the fact that as he fights and grows his unleashed combat power due to accelerated development, it will massively multiple his combat power which includes kaiju power (which RT-0001 is considered), his overall analytical prediction along with many other attributes

 

[MysticBrawler]

You restricted his possibly why?

Well to keep things fair I figured that it's better to start the fight with Naruto's AP being lower than Gen's durability since the former would be using his Shadow Clone jutsu for the numbers advantage, and Naruto already has access to his 6-B Kurama Mode and his High 6-B Kurama Sage Mode anyway.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Mostly because his feats without RT-0001 put him at that level and it is noted he doesn’t become physically faster with RT-0001

With RT-0001, he can hang with those far above him, he varies depending on the opponent but it has allow him to predict, react, dodge and severely overwhelm a FTL character like Meireki-chan to the point of having to legit wait until Gen’s body fall apart to counter attack despite having thought-based paralysis, teleportation and invisible spawn attacks. And Gen started their battle being weaken, exhausted, broken ribs and suffering from brain damage due to damaging his cerebral nerves

It just how it works, similar to Adam’s Divine Reflection from Record of Ragnarok. There is a reason why characters keep beating readers over the head that it let one perform attacks consistently stated to be “inescapable” or surehits”.

Even when the Daikaiju of the Meireki Era was passively messing with his RT-0001’s ability due to Gen at the time not being used to dealing with being bombarded with hundreds of futures/signals from one target rather than spread out and growing stronger and faster due to possessing all of Kaiju No. 9’s abilities, he was still actively dodging and reacting to its every attacks that should have otherwise blitz and one-shot him but just couldn’t land his infamous inescapable attacks/surehits until he truly lock in and adapted

This is not even accounting for the fact that as he fights and grows his unleashed combat power due to accelerated development, it will massively multiple his combat power which includes kaiju power (which RT-0001 is considered), his overall analytical prediction along with many other attributes

So does that mean Gen can still handle Naruto even when speed is unequalized, or is that too straining for him ?

 

[KobsterHope07]

So does that mean Gen can still handle Naruto even when speed is unequalized, or is that too straining for him ?

Yeah, he can still handle Naruto’s speed even without speed being equalized due to how his precognition functions

 

[MysticBrawler]

Yeah, he can still handle Naruto’s speed even without speed being equalized due to how his precognition functions

Are you sure? Cause Naruto usually likes to spam his Shadow Clone Jutsu, so the numbers that Gen will be dealing with will be anywhere between 10-1000 at once.

 

[KobsterHope07]

If you want to make it more fair, you can equalized speed

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

How would that make it more fair? Wouldn't it be easier for him to just predict all of Naruto's stuff since they would be the same speed then?

 

[MysticBrawler]

If you want to make it more fair, you can equalized speed

How would that make it more fair? Wouldn't it be easier for him to just predict all of Naruto's stuff since they would be the same speed then?

So they way this will go is that in the start of the fight Gen will have the Speed and AP/Durability advantage which will allow him to deal with Naruto's Shadow Clones until the latter decides to use his 6-B amp, wherein he will also become "At least Relativistic" in which case Gen will be the one with the speed disadvantage but he'll be able to keep up with Naruto thanks to his RT-0001. Naruto can also use his High 6-B amp if needed as well

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Isn’t nard able to move to higher forms? So he is going to get a speed advantage either way. And with his sensing capabilities in KCM2SM he should be able to out predict him

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

So they way this will go is that in the start of the fight Gen will have the Speed and AP/Durability advantage which will allow him to deal with Naruto's Shadow Clones until the latter decides to use his 6-B amp, wherein he will also become "At least Relativistic" in which case Gen will be the one with the speed disadvantage but he'll be able to keep up with Naruto thanks to his RT-0001. Naruto can also use his High 6-B amp if needed as well

There's gotta be a damn limit to what he can react to and predict. What's the fastest character he's ever read like a book and what is their speed value?

 

[karo_senpaii]

So they way this will go is that in the start of the fight Gen will have the Speed and AP/Durability advantage which will allow him to deal with Naruto's Shadow Clones until the latter decides to use his 6-B amp, wherein he will also become "At least Relativistic" in which case Gen will be the one with the speed disadvantage but he'll be able to keep up with Naruto thanks to his RT-0001. Naruto can also use his High 6-B amp if needed as well

Naruto is gonna have sage mode and shunshin on top of those speed amps. Gen himself won't be able to touch naruto. I don't think gen rt-0001 would help him keep up with 1k clones all several times faster than him for long. Naruto also has attacks spamming hundreds of km in radius via the bijuu bombs if he goes that route. idk if gen has an attack that wide in radius so he could be able to cancel out the bombs since his ap is still like 3 times higher but id he doesn't then yeah he is cooked after a few bombs.


Gen's attacks would be deadly to Naruto but I'd say with his regen he should be able to keep going

 

[KobsterHope07]

I doubt the speed advantage will be great as Gen’s unleashed combat power will increase as the battle continues, meaning not only his physical attributes but his analytical predictions, RT-0001 capabilities, etc… are growing as well. Naruto’s bane is that he uses hand signs to perform his jutsu, and Gen’s precog, whether through perceiving his electrical signals or seeing the future, will allow him to strike before Naruto get the chance to do so, since RT-0001 let him respond to and even continuously interrupt thought-based, spawn-based and even blink-based attacks, putting pressure on Nard and refusing to let up as Nard’s AoE and clones spam will pose a threat if he let him go uninterrupted. Gen might himself in a position where he would blow off Nard’s hands, destroying the origin points of his techniques as that is a solid tactic of RT-0001 users.

While Naruto has good senses, he is dealing with a guy with dozens of RT-0001. So, he is like Danzo, but not only does Gen got more eyes, but he can see and predict through all of them simultaneously. With one pair of RT-0001 already giving Gen a reputation of performing inescapable attacks/surehits, even against characters that are far above him in speed and power and harm them (With RT-0001, it is shown with Kikoru, an inexperienced user with a pair of RT-0001, to be able to harm a High 6-A FTL Daikaiju, one that is made of multiple Daikaiju-level threats that each has Extrasensory perception, so no matter how strong or fast Nard get in this key, Gen’s attacks will continuously hurt and hit him hard until he pulls out the Squadron-Style), now he has countless amount of them. Additionally, Gen can see the world as frozen while he aims and move in real time, which is a nice bonus I suppose

Not to mention, even wounds that Nard suffers come with the slight disadvantage of combusting afterward, creating bigger wounds, and the wounds Gen create are large enough to be crippling for a normal-sized humans as he do be fighting giant-sized monstrosity

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

I doubt the speed advantage will be great as Gen’s unleashed combat power will increase as the battle continues, meaning not only his physical attributes but his analytical predictions, RT-0001 capabilities, etc… are growing as well. Naruto’s bane is that he uses hand signs to perform his jutsu,

the only jutsu naruto uses hand signs for are shadow clones so i dont think that much of a problem

and Gen’s precog, whether through perceiving his electrical signals or seeing the future, will allow him to strike before Naruto get the chance to do so, since RT-0001 let him respond to and even continuously interrupt thought-based and blink-based attacks, putting pressure on Nard and refusing to let up. Gen might himself in a position where he would blow off Nard’s hands, destroying the origin points of his techniques as that is a tactic of RT-0001 users.

Naruto is able to fight with sharingan peps that can anticipate their opponets movements with higher versions like the 3 tome stright up resembeling future sight that allows them to see at the very least 3 moves into the future. This is not factoring things like MS and EMS which are superior versions of the 3 tome, furthermore he can fight opponets with the byakugan that has 360 degree vision, x-ray, Telescopic Vision, Micro Vision and kinetic vision. Plus shinobi are able to read the minds of thoses they come in contact with. Meaning naruto is able to fight opponets that have either the shringan, byakugan or both, is able to read his mind and still keep up with them and at times catch them by surprise.

And if naruto hands are cut, which i doubt as he has two forms of damage reduction with each stacking from Kurama chakra and sage mode, he can just make chakra arms

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Can Gen defend himself from naruto soul base attacks like his chakra arms? And would he be able to sense naruto due to his sealth mastery?

 

[KobsterHope07]

the only jutsu naruto uses hand signs for are shadow clones so i dont think that much of a problem

Naruto doesn’t have that much variety to his arsenal so I guess this is true, but even without handsigns, he won’t be able to even budge as long as Gen has his way.

Naruto is able to fight with sharingan peps that can anticipate their opponets movements with higher versions like the 3 tome stright up resembeling future sight that allows them to see at the very least 3 moves into the future. This is not factoring things like MS and EMS which are superior versions of the 3 tome, furthermore he can fight opponets with the byakugan that has 360 degree vision, x-ray, Telescopic Vision, Micro Vision and kinetic vision. Plus shinobi are able to read the minds of thoses they come in contact with. Meaning naruto is able to fight opponets that have either the shringan, byakugan or both, is able to read his mind and still keep up with them and at times catch them by surprise.

Pretty impressive. Didn’t know Sharingan can see at least 3 moves into the future, although Gen can straight up see even the future of his opponent’s death. But in regards to the shinobi reading minds things. From what I see from the profile, I assuming you are talking about linking power thing. But it doesn’t seem to be used in terms of combat-wise, just being able to understand what the other is feeling and see their memories so they can better understand them as a person. Doesn’t seem to use it to like per say predict one’s actions unless I’m missing something

Gen’s precog allows him with a single eye to simultaneously read multiple targets at once and attack each of them before they can even move from their position. Currently, even at a weakened state, he could perceive hundreds of futures at once coming from a singular target. Overall, Gen’s precog from my understanding is something Naruto has not yet encountered as it is very offensive driven instead of being just reliant on countering, especially when none of them has a reputation of consistent inescapable attacks/surehits. Not to mention, No. 9 tries to keep up and analyze his precog given the Kaiju’s ability to adapt and evolve and create resistance to counter precog but fails to do so, even its ability to counter attacks to the point that the same technique doesn’t work twice has no effect despite this same ability working on an analytical prediction user. Even the passive adaptation of its final form that let him extract everything of a person’s arsenal to better counter their every move fail to help the Kaiju to breach Gen’s defenses and land a direct hit

He may fought many precog users in the past, but Gen’s essentially has near all that you listed and more with a single eye, and he got countless of them that can do the same. Even Soshiro’s precog is inferior to RT-0001 despote Soshiro’s letting him hold his own against multiple blitzing Kaiju whilst at the same time actively fighting against his sentient suit that won’t follow his orders and throwing him off, causing their unleashed combat power to drop tremendously, which affects his speed, physical strength, muscular strength, jumping, Kaiju power, precision, awareness, five senses, accuracy, analytical prediction, range, force and piercing capability and agility.

And as the fight continues, the better Gen’s unleashed power becomes, which will affect the effectiveness of RT-0001

And if naruto hands are destroyed he can make ones out of chakra

That is fair.

Gen will have to go for the kill and put him down with his Squadron-Style technique

Can Gen defend himself from naruto soul base attacks like his chakra arms? And would he be able to sense naruto due to his sealth mastery?

Normally, probably not, not sure how it interacts with forcefield. Has Naruto use this ability offensively to harm someone. I recall him using it on hinata to remove something, not do anything to harm someone. I feel like he would have use that ability offensively if he could, like with his fight with Jigen/Isshiki, it would have been helpful

Most likely, RT-0001 not only has 360 degree vision, but can perceive the environment from the terrain to temperature and electrons.

How will Naruto handle Gen’s stealth as he has bypass the senses of Daikaiju as he outright disappears from their line of sight despite staring him down and could move in a way that automatic homing attacks and defenses is not an option against him, even if he was to stand in the middle of it, it won’t register him or his attacks

 

[karo_senpaii]

I doubt the speed advantage will be great as Gen’s unleashed combat power will increase as the battle continues, meaning not only his physical attributes but his analytical predictions, RT-0001 capabilities, etc… are growing as well. Naruto’s bane is that he uses hand signs to perform his jutsu, and Gen’s precog, whether through perceiving his electrical signals or seeing the future, will allow him to strike before Naruto get the chance to do so, since RT-0001 let him respond to and even continuously interrupt thought-based, spawn-based and even blink-based attacks, putting pressure on Nard and refusing to let up as Nard’s AoE and clones spam will pose a threat if he let him go uninterrupted. Gen might himself in a position where he would blow off Nard’s hands, destroying the origin points of his techniques as that is a solid tactic of RT-0001 users.

While Naruto has good senses, he is dealing with a guy with dozens of RT-0001. So, he is like Danzo, but not only does Gen got more eyes, but he can see and predict through all of them simultaneously. With one pair of RT-0001 already giving Gen a reputation of performing inescapable attacks/surehits, even against characters that are far above him in speed and power and harm them (With RT-0001, it is shown with Kikoru, an inexperienced user with a pair of RT-0001, to be able to harm a High 6-A FTL Daikaiju, one that is made of multiple Daikaiju-level threats that each has Extrasensory perception, so no matter how strong or fast Nard get in this key, Gen’s attacks will continuously hurt and hit him hard until he pulls out the Squadron-Style), now he has countless amount of them. Additionally, Gen can see the world as frozen while he aims and move in real time, which is a nice bonus I suppose

Not to mention, even wounds that Nard suffers come with the slight disadvantage of combusting afterward, creating bigger wounds, and the wounds Gen create are large enough to be crippling for a normal-sized humans as he do be fighting giant-sized monstrosity

First and foremost Naruto only uses hand signs for shadow clones justu. The rest of his arsenal doesn't require it.
The issue here isn't Naruto hitting gen. The issue here is gen hitting Naruto. He has good precog and that's fine but at the end of the day he still has to move and attack Naruto. He's going to find it nearly impossible to him. Granted gen precog here is better in terms of seeing the future but in terms of reaction it's pretty much the same thing. Naruto has instinctive reaction as well as danger and emotion sensing with kurama and sage mode. If they were on even footing in terms of speed then sure gen would have a slight advantage in precog. But Naruto gets a lot faster in higher forms and can go from 1 to at least 2k clones in an instant repeatedly. Gen has never used his eye on that many targets before so it's going to become overwhelming at that point and honestly the daikaju with ESP doesn't do much considering Naruto has ESP as well as precog himself and has countered people with precog

naruto biggest advantage here is that his bijuu bombs are impossible to dodge. Like gen will never be able to dodge them.. the AOE of an uncharged bijuu bomb on an average reaches hundreds of kms. Gen simply doesn't have the leg speed to evade it so tbh they are like sure hit effects.

Actually scratch that, a sage mode rasenshuriken might just end it all. If gen dodges it Naruto just auto commands it to expand and the AOE is very large..

So I see Naruto coming out on top more times than not.
He'd be able to evade at least some of gen attacks with his precog and heal from more of them while on the other hand gen has really no way of recovering from bijuu bombs

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Pretty impressive. Didn’t know Sharingan can see at least 3 moves into the future, although Gen can straight up see even the future of his opponent’s death. But in regards to the shinobi reading minds things. From what I see from the profile, I assuming you are talking about linking power thing. But it doesn’t seem to be used in terms of combat-wise, just being able to understand what the other is feeling and see their memories so they can better understand them as a person. Doesn’t seem to use it to like per say predict one’s actions unless I’m missing something

This is used in combat as well as, sasuke said that when two high level shinobi go hand to hand they can read their opponets mind

He may fought many precog users in the past, but Gen’s essentially has near all that you listed and more with a single eye, and he got countless of them that can do the same. Even Soshiro’s precog is inferior to RT-0001 despote Soshiro’s letting him hold his own against multiple blitzing Kaiju whilst at the same time actively fighting against his sentient suit that won’t follow his orders and throwing him off, causing their unleashed combat power to drop tremendously, which affects his speed, physical strength, muscular strength, jumping, Kaiju power, precision, awareness, five senses, accuracy, analytical prediction, range, force and piercing capability and agility.

The amount of eyes dont matter as obito can do the same with one eye. Furthermore the sharingan can see the future of naruto himself + all of his shadow clones all at once and naruto can out predict that and adapt accordingly

And as the fight continues, the better Gen’s unleashed power becomes, which will affect the effectiveness of RT-0001

so does naruto

Gen will have to go for the kill and put him down with his Squadron-Style technique

Naruto has two different forms of damage reduction that stack on top each other. One is from kurama chakra and the other is from sage mode so i doubt he is cutting or peircing him

Normally, probably not, not sure how it interacts with forcefield. Has Naruto use this ability offensively to harm someone. I recall him using it on hinata to remove something, not do anything to harm someone. I feel like he would have use that ability offensively if he could, like with his fight with Jigen/Isshiki, it would have been helpful

The arms themselfs have soul manipulation so just getting hit by them would cause soul manipulation. The intangability can be done but he doest use it much

Most likely, RT-0001 not only has 360 degree vision, but can perceive the environment from the terrain to temperature and electrons.

Naruto characters extend their consciousness into their enviroment to sense for allys and foes. Yet their stealth mastery is so good that they bypass this and are able to hide their bloodlust and hostile intent

How will Naruto handle Gen’s stealth as he has bypass the senses of Daikaiju as he outright disappears from their line of sight despite staring him down and could move in a way that automatic homing attacks and defenses is not an option against him, even if he was to stand in the middle of it, it won’t register him or his attacks

By sensing his soul, negative emotion, bloodlust and hostile intension. Plus naruto intinctive reaction with faster speed would be a death sentence for Gen if he wants to take naruto by surprise

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

also Naruto has superior stamina here. He has more stamina then kakashi who was an top teir anbu member, with lesser members being able to run for 3 days stright. Fight for days on end with high level ninjutsu and spam shadow clones while doing so.

Given the weakness of gens suit naruto can just spam shadow clones for days on end, overloading Gen hence kill him

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

also Naruto has superior stamina here. He has more stamina then kakashi who was an top teir anbu member, with lesser members being able to run for 3 days stright. Fight for days on end with high level ninjutsu and spam shadow clones while doing so.

Given the weakness of gens suit naruto can just spam shadow clones for days on end, overloading Gen hence kill him

Even if they had equal stamina, Kurama can constantly regenerate Naruto's chakra supply if need be as he was doing that for almost the whole second half of the war arc.

 

[KobsterHope07]

also Naruto has superior stamina, he has more stamina that your average jonin who can ran for 3 days stright. Fight for days on end with high level ninjutsu and spam shadow clones while doing so.

Given the weakness of gens suit, naruto can just spam shadow clones for days on end overloading Gen hence kill him

Gen does have stamina as he has been holed up with Kikoru sparring for days although they likely take break but it is not certain how long while using RT-0001, so stamina isn’t an issue

This is used in combat as well as, sasuke said that when two high level shinobi go hand to hand they can read their opponets mind

But how in depth are we talking about. It sounds like understanding what is in one’s heart, their true feelings and not combat strategies.

The amount of eyes dont matter as obito can do the same with one eye. Furthermore the sharingan can see the future of naruto himself + all of his shadow clones all at once and naruto can out predict that and adapt accordingly

Can’t say I recall this instance

Naruto has two different forms of damage reduction that stack on top each other. One is from kurama chakra and the other is from sage mode so i doubt he is cutting or peircing him

Gen is able cutting him, he is varying with RT-0001 and has durability negation. This is not mentioning the squadron-style combat technique

The arms themselfs have soul manipulation so just getting hit by them would cause soul manipulation. The intangability can be done but he doest use it much

I don’t think that how it works, I don’t recall anyone complaining about their soul hurting after being struck

Naruto characters extend their consciousness into their enviroment to sense for allys and foes. Yet their stealth mastery is so good that they bypass this and are able to hide their bloodlust and hostile intent

The mechanics of how Gen’s ability functions would mean that these means of stealth mastery won’t be as effective.

First and foremost Naruto only uses hand signs for shadow clones justu. The rest of his arsenal doesn't require it.
The issue here isn't Naruto hitting gen. The issue here is gen hitting Naruto. He has good precog and that's fine but at the end of the day he still has to move and attack Naruto. He's going to find it nearly impossible to him. Granted gen precog here is better in terms of seeing the future but in terms of reaction it's pretty much the same thing. Naruto has instinctive reaction as well as danger and emotion sensing with kurama and sage mode. If they were on even footing in terms of speed then sure gen would have a slight advantage in precog. But Naruto gets a lot faster in higher forms and can go from 1 to at least 2k clones in an instant repeatedly. Gen has never used his eye on that many targets before so it's going to become overwhelming at that point and honestly the daikaju with ESP doesn't do much considering Naruto has ESP as well as precog himself and has countered people with precog

Gen won’t have trouble, he didn’t have trouble with FTL when his precognition was wasn’t working, and it won’t affect him despite Naruto’s speed gains as shown that Gen wasn’t the bit affected by Kaiju No. 9’s new transformation after absorbing the one person Gen admit inferiority towards. Even an inexperienced Kikoru could handle a much faster Meireki Kaiju than the one Gen fought and still hang in there.

I will admit that clone spam is a reliable method if he manages to get it off, at least that many clones at once, but Gen can already see that future and will cut it down, and pressure Naruto.

naruto biggest advantage here is that his bijuu bombs are impossible to dodge. Like gen will never be able to dodge them.. the AOE of an uncharged bijuu bomb on an average reaches hundreds of kms. Gen simply doesn't have the leg speed to evade it so tbh they are like sure hit effects.

Actually scratch that, a sage mode rasenshuriken might just end it all. If gen dodges it Naruto just auto commands it to expand and the AOE is very large..

Indeed, the AoE of Naruto’s attacks are a problem, but it won’t be that much trouble given Gen’s forcefield as it allows a Numbers Weapon User to survive attacks from Attacks from High 6-B to High 6-A and continue fighting. Can’t say how Rasenshuriken’s tiny blades will interact with forcefield but it should hold up.

But either way, Gen will make sure that he isn’t taking direct hits from the attacks and reduce the amount of damage taken.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Yeah, there are too much things for me to constantly reply too so I am just going to cast my vote and end it there. My arguments and Gen’s profile as along with others’ arguments and Nard’s profile are all there for anybody to read and can vote for whomever they believe have the best chance. It is honestly great to see Gen putting this much of a fight against Naruto of all people

I will vote for Gen Narumi as I believe he does have chances to come out on top

Naruto is fighting in Kyubi Chakra Mode, so he doesn’t have the benefit of anything above or sage mode shenanigans. Gen’s precog is beyond that of what Naruto typically deals with from Sharingan, Byakugan etc… and thus allows him to get the drop on him. Speed is nothing to Gen with his RT-0001 as given even the likes of FTL can’t touch him the slightest despite thought-based, teleportation, blink-based and spawn-based attacks, even when his precog was being tampered with. Even Kikoru, inexperienced and slower than him in combat speed and reactions, could hold off a faster FTL character than the one Gen fought. I heard Nard has Damage Reduction, but it doesn’t matter as Gen varies with RT-0001, has durability negations and has bypass forcefield.

Due to seeing the hundreds of future, Gen will have pre-knowledge of how dangerous Naruto can be and won’t hesitate to put him down immediately, which can thanks to Squadron-Style Technique. And while Naruto has good regeneration, it is Low-Mid, and Gen is used to fighting Low-Mid to High-Mid Kaiju every day and thus his techniques are designed with the purpose with dealing with that regeneration and cut him up more than he can heal from, even with Kurama’s help. Especially when Gen knows where Nard’s heart is and will be targeting it like he does with Kaiju’s cores so it is in-character for him to aim for a heart shot.

Naruto’s AoE are honestly pretty terrifying in comparison to Gen as if he uses them, Gen is gonna be hit, but Gen can use his precog to avoid taking direct damage and reducing the damage he takes, he did it with Kaiju No. 9 omnidirectional blasts that engulf him when it should have one shot him, coming out unscathed due to Damage Reduction. Not to mention, Gen has his forcefield that allows one to withstand blows from High 6-B Mysterious Larva (to the point of being unscathed despite those being one-shots each) to High 6-A Meireki and continue fighting, so as long as Gen avoid taking direct damage, he would be fine. Hell, he was stabbed in the chest right by his heart by Meireki and yet continue fighting. This probably goes with Rasenshuriken as long as the microscopic wind-blades doesn’t pierce through the shield which should be tough given their durability, he can take them head on, but as said before, Gen would try to avoid taking direct damage and shoot them down in advance, and won’t be caught off by Naruto expanding them suddenly

Clone Spam is extremely dangerous if Naruto manages to get 1K or 2K, as Gen is limited to hundreds… although given he has adapted to hundreds of futures on the spot when he couldn’t before especially when this was done by a brain damaged, exhausted and weakened Gen that ran 40km fighting a horde of Kaiju that got in his way, it isn’t completely impossible for him to adapt, I will argue for its plausibility as Gen’s strong emotions allows him to adapt to seemingly impossible situation but I digress. The overall problem will be Naruto getting the hand sign as Gen’s precog, the basic one, is hone in one’s nervous system, so Gen is already knowing what Naruto will do, instinctive or otherwise, and will intercept him at every point.

Overall, given the threat severity of Naruto, Gen, who has already seen hundreds of futures, will not hesitate to put down Naruto which he can do instantly with Squadron-Style as it is vastly stronger than even Nard’s stronger form/attacks. He won’t let Nard’s transform easily and prevent him from doing as he pleases. I hardly doubt this match will last an hour, let alone days for stamina to be a decision making point.

 

[MysticBrawler]

Yeah, there are too much things for me to constantly reply too so I am just going to cast my vote and end it there. My arguments and Gen’s profile as along with others’ arguments and Nard’s profile are all there for anybody to read and can vote for whomever they believe have the best chance. It is honestly great to see Gen putting this much of a fight against Naruto of all people

I will vote for Gen Narumi as I believe he does have chances to come out on top

Naruto is fighting in Kyubi Chakra Mode, so he doesn’t have the benefit of anything above or sage mode shenanigans. Gen’s precog is beyond that of what Naruto typically deals with from Sharingan, Byakugan etc… and thus allows him to get the drop on him. Speed is nothing to Gen with his RT-0001 as given even the likes of FTL can’t touch him the slightest despite thought-based, teleportation, blink-based and spawn-based attacks, even when his precog was being tampered with. Even Kikoru, inexperienced and slower than him in combat speed and reactions, could hold off a faster FTL character than the one Gen fought. I heard Nard has Damage Reduction, but it doesn’t matter as Gen varies with RT-0001, has durability negations and has bypass forcefield.

Due to seeing the hundreds of future, Gen will have pre-knowledge of how dangerous Naruto can be and won’t hesitate to put him down immediately, which can thanks to Squadron-Style Technique. And while Naruto has good regeneration, it is Low-Mid, and Gen is used to fighting Low-Mid to High-Mid Kaiju every day and thus his techniques are designed with the purpose with dealing with that regeneration and cut him up more than he can heal from, even with Kurama’s help. Especially when Gen knows where Nard’s heart is and will be targeting it like he does with Kaiju’s cores so it is in-character for him to aim for a heart shot.

Naruto’s AoE are honestly pretty terrifying in comparison to Gen as if he uses them, Gen is gonna be hit, but Gen can use his precog to avoid taking direct damage and reducing the damage he takes, he did it with Kaiju No. 9 omnidirectional blasts that engulf him when it should have one shot him, coming out unscathed due to Damage Reduction. Not to mention, Gen has his forcefield that allows one to withstand blows from High 6-B Mysterious Larva (to the point of being unscathed despite those being one-shots each) to High 6-A Meireki and continue fighting, so as long as Gen avoid taking direct damage, he would be fine. Hell, he was stabbed in the chest right by his heart by Meireki and yet continue fighting. This probably goes with Rasenshuriken as long as the microscopic wind-blades doesn’t pierce through the shield which should be tough given their durability, he can take them head on, but as said before, Gen would try to avoid taking direct damage and shoot them down in advance, and won’t be caught off by Naruto expanding them suddenly

Clone Spam is extremely dangerous if Naruto manages to get 1K or 2K, as Gen is limited to hundreds… although given he has adapted to hundreds of futures on the spot when he couldn’t before especially when this was done by a brain damaged, exhausted and weakened Gen that ran 40km fighting a horde of Kaiju that got in his way, it isn’t completely impossible for him to adapt, I will argue for its plausibility as Gen’s strong emotions allows him to adapt to seemingly impossible situation but I digress. The overall problem will be Naruto getting the hand sign as Gen’s precog, the basic one, is hone in one’s nervous system, so Gen is already knowing what Naruto will do, instinctive or otherwise, and will intercept him at every point.

Overall, given the threat severity of Naruto, Gen, who has already seen hundreds of futures, will not hesitate to put down Naruto which he can do instantly with Squadron-Style as it is vastly stronger than even Nard’s stronger form/attacks. He won’t let Nard’s transform easily and prevent him from doing as he pleases. I hardly doubt this match will last an hour, let alone days for stamina to be a decision making point.

Counted, and thanks for joining in.

 

[KobsterHope07]

Counted, and thanks for joining in.

Thanks for having me

 

[MysticBrawler]

Can Gen defend himself from naruto soul base attacks like his chakra arms? And would he be able to sense naruto due to his sealth mastery?

Hmm, Gen does have this :

• Non-Physical Interaction (Incorporeality; Thanks to utilizing RT-0001, Kikoru stated she is capable of destroying the origin points of True Form Meireki Kaiju’s attacks,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gen_Narumi#cite_note-Kaiju_No._8_Chapter_124-100"><span>[</span>99<span>]</span></a> which is stated to be devoid of a physical form<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gen_Narumi#cite_note-Kaiju_No._8_Chapter_118-35"><span>[</span>34<span>]</span></a>)

But I'm not sure how this would interact with Naruto's chakra arms.

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Gen does have stamina as he has been holed up with Kikoru sparring for days although they likely take break but it is not certain how long while using RT-0001, so stamina isn’t an issue

his weakness states that he cant fight for too long in his overriden mode which he has has to use given how much stronger and faster naruto can become with just transforming in seconds

But how in depth are we talking about. It sounds like understanding what is in one’s heart, their true feelings and not combat strategies.

i gave you a scan that litteraly says that shinobi are able to read the minds of thoses their are in contact with. Meaning they can read your mind when your doing hand to hand combat, simple

Can’t say I recall this instance

Kid sasuke was doing this to naruto with an inferior shringan with no future sight.

Gen is able cutting him, he is varying with RT-0001 and has durability negation. This is not mentioning the squadron-style combat technique

Naruto has Kurama's damage reduction that makes him as hard if not harder then diamonds and sage mode's damage reduction stacked on top of that. Plus Kurama chakra acts as a forcefield around naruto and he has regen. So not only does naruto have 2 forms of damage reduction that stack but also a forcefield and regen on top of all that, his not getting cut here.

I don’t think that how it works, I don’t recall anyone complaining about their soul hurting after being struck

No one starts randomly complaing about their souls being damaged. And thats how it works, its literally on the profile.

The mechanics of how Gen’s ability functions would mean that these means of stealth mastery won’t be as effective.

Why? he wouldnt even know naruto was missing from all of the shadow clones he creates. Furthermore how does seeing the brains neurons and electrons help him in detecting naruto? Naruto literally makes his presence vanish from ESP how would enhanced sense work on him.

Gen won’t have trouble, he didn’t have trouble with FTL when his precognition was wasn’t working,

That does matter as that would mean he is that fast

and it won’t affect him despite Naruto’s speed gains as shown that Gen wasn’t the bit affected by Kaiju No. 9’s new transformation after absorbing the one person Gen admit inferiority towards. Even an inexperienced Kikoru could handle a much faster Meireki Kaiju than the one Gen fought and still hang in there.

Depends on the speed amp he got. Like was is blitz teir level amp or just 2% level amp, because naruto can stack a blitz level speed amp with his already faster speed amps he gets from just transforming.

I will admit that clone spam is a reliable method if he manages to get it off, at least that many clones at once, but Gen can already see that future and will cut it down, and pressure Naruto.

That doest help as the sharingan does the same thing consistantly but with much higher number of clones and such

Indeed, the AoE of Naruto’s attacks are a problem, but it won’t be that much trouble given Gen’s forcefield as it allows a Numbers Weapon User to survive attacks from Attacks from High 6-B to High 6-A and continue fighting. Can’t say how Rasenshuriken’s tiny blades will interact with forcefield but it should hold up.

where did you get 6A from?

Naruto is fighting in Kyubi Chakra Mode, so he doesn’t have the benefit of anything above or sage mode shenanigans.

OP says that naruto has access to higher forms, so he can go to Kurama Chakra Sage Mode

Gen’s precog is beyond that of what Naruto typically deals with from Sharingan, Byakugan etc… and thus allows him to get the drop on him. Speed is nothing to Gen with his RT-0001 as given even the likes of FTL can’t touch him the slightest despite thought-based, teleportation, blink-based and spawn-based attacks

These examples sound like his precog helping him dodge these attacks rather then them being a speed feat. Moreover the FTL point doesnt hold any meaning as this just means his as fast as the FTL character. And the rest just seems to be a case of prcog

even when his precog was being tampered with. Even Kikoru, inexperienced and slower than him in combat speed and reactions, could hold off a faster FTL character than the one Gen fought. I heard Nard has Damage Reduction, but it doesn’t matter as Gen varies with RT-0001, has durability negations and has bypass forcefield.

How much faster where they? blitz level? or 2% faster? this has no relavence if the slower character is reacting a slightly faster character rather then a blizts level + more speed amp naruto

Due to seeing the hundreds of future, Gen will have pre-knowledge of how dangerous Naruto can be and won’t hesitate to put him down immediately, which can thanks to Squadron-Style Technique.

How far can he see into the future? I checked his profile and its only one or two steps at most. While the sharinagn can do the same but better, seeing up to 3 moves into the future with their being arguments of it being able to see more. In addition to this the sharingan can consistanly see the moves of all of naruto's shadow clones, the best example would be against kaguya naruto creates more than hundreds of clones and kaguya is able to defend against them all

And while Naruto has good regeneration, it is Low-Mid, and Gen is used to fighting Low-Mid to High-Mid Kaiju every day and thus his techniques are designed with the purpose with dealing with that regeneration and cut him up more than he can heal from,

This is so vague. Like does those blades have regeneration negation? or he just slices so fast that their opponets become smaller then atoms? also as mentioned above he has so many forms of damage reduction and forefield creation this is highly doubtfull. Also naruto cloak is corrosive and can vapourize things it comes into contact with, so would these blades even work?

even with Kurama’s help. Especially when Gen knows where Nard’s heart is and will be targeting it like he does with Kaiju’s cores so it is in-character for him to aim for a heart shot.

Naruto regens it

Naruto’s AoE are honestly pretty terrifying in comparison to Gen as if he uses them, Gen is gonna be hit, but Gen can use his precog to avoid taking direct damage and reducing the damage he takes, he did it with Kaiju No. 9 omnidirectional blasts that engulf him when it should have one shot him, coming out unscathed due to Damage Reduction. Not to mention, Gen has his forcefield that allows one to withstand blows from High 6-B Mysterious Larva (to the point of being unscathed despite those being one-shots each) to High 6-A Meireki and continue fighting, so as long as Gen avoid taking direct damage, he would be fine.

Naruto has dura neg abilities so this shouldnt matter and his tbb vapourizes so that should neg his damage reduction, plus naruto has higher ap then gens dura. Where are you getting 6A and 6B from?

Hell, he was stabbed in the chest right by his heart by Meireki and yet continue fighting. This probably goes with Rasenshuriken as long as the microscopic wind-blades doesn’t pierce through the shield which should be tough given their durability, he can take them head on, but as said before, Gen would try to avoid taking direct damage and shoot them down in advance, and won’t be caught off by Naruto expanding them suddenly

Can he still be dodging them from hundreds of shadow clones? that seems a stretch ngl

Clone Spam is extremely dangerous if Naruto manages to get 1K or 2K, as Gen is limited to hundreds… although given he has adapted to hundreds of futures on the spot when he couldn’t before especially when this was done by a brain damaged, exhausted and weakened Gen that ran 40km fighting a horde of Kaiju that got in his way, it isn’t completely impossible for him to adapt, I will argue for its plausibility as Gen’s strong emotions allows him to adapt to seemingly impossible situation but I digress. The overall problem will be Naruto getting the hand sign as Gen’s precog, the basic one, is hone in one’s nervous system, so Gen is already knowing what Naruto will do, instinctive or otherwise, and will intercept him at every point.

His already gonna be streching himself thin with using his suit that put a massive amount of stress on his body and with his use of overide that his gonna need against nard, his basically racing aginst time to finsih the match as fast as possible. Which is highly unlikly as naruto would be faster, stronger, more aoe, hundreds of clones that overwemlp his precog, substitution jutsu that can bait him even with precog, ridiculously more stamina with kurama replenishing it constantly, instictive reaction cloak that has poison that will insta kill gen and corrosive that would vapourize his stuff just by touching said cloak.

Hmm, Gen does have this :

• Non-Physical Interaction (Incorporeality; Thanks to utilizing RT-0001, Kikoru stated she is capable of destroying the origin points of True Form Meireki Kaiju’s attacks,<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gen_Narumi#cite_note-Kaiju_No._8_Chapter_124-100"><span>[</span>99<span>]</span></a> which is stated to be devoid of a physical form<a href="https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Gen_Narumi#cite_note-Kaiju_No._8_Chapter_118-35"><span>[</span>34<span>]</span></a>)

But I'm not sure how this would interact with Naruto's chakra arms.

This wont matter as his not resistant to soul based attacks

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

i also forgot to mention is gen resistant to fear and madness hax? if not he just gets paralyzed/kills himself by KCM2 naruto bloodlusted aura

 

[karo_senpaii]

i also forgot to mention is gen resistant to fear and madness hax? if not he just gets paralyzed/kills himself by KCM2 naruto bloodlusted aura

He is

 

[karo_senpaii]

Gen does have stamina as he has been holed up with Kikoru sparring for days although they likely take break but it is not certain how long while using RT-0001, so stamina isn’t an issue


But how in depth are we talking about. It sounds like understanding what is in one’s heart, their true feelings and not combat strategies.

Can’t say I recall this instance

Gen is able cutting him, he is varying with RT-0001 and has durability negation. This is not mentioning the squadron-style combat technique

I don’t think that how it works, I don’t recall anyone complaining about their soul hurting after being struck

The mechanics of how Gen’s ability functions would mean that these means of stealth mastery won’t be as effective.

Gen won’t have trouble, he didn’t have trouble with FTL when his precognition was wasn’t working, and it won’t affect him despite Naruto’s speed gains as shown that Gen wasn’t the bit affected by Kaiju No. 9’s new transformation after absorbing the one person Gen admit inferiority towards. Even an inexperienced Kikoru could handle a much faster Meireki Kaiju than the one Gen fought and still hang in there.

I will admit that clone spam is a reliable method if he manages to get it off, at least that many clones at once, but Gen can already see that future and will cut it down, and pressure Naruto.

Indeed, the AoE of Naruto’s attacks are a problem, but it won’t be that much trouble given Gen’s forcefield as it allows a Numbers Weapon User to survive attacks from Attacks from High 6-B to High 6-A and continue fighting. Can’t say how Rasenshuriken’s tiny blades will interact with forcefield but it should hold up.

But either way, Gen will make sure that he isn’t taking direct hits from the attacks and reduce the amount of damage taken.

Before I go on to reply. Who is the ftl character he fought?

 

[KobsterHope07]

his weakness states that he cant fight for too long in his overriden mode which he has has to use given how much stronger and faster naruto can become with just transforming in seconds

Indeed that is what is listed, he can only last so long when overriden after he has overheated.

Naruto has Kurama's damage reduction that makes him as hard if not harder then diamonds and sage mode's damage reduction stacked on top of that. Plus Kurama chakra acts as a forcefield around naruto and he has regen. So not only does naruto have 2 forms of damage reduction that stack but also a forcefield and regen on top of all that, his not getting cut here.

And I believe he is cutting. Agree to disagree, especially with High 6-B attacks coming his way

These examples sound like his precog helping him dodge these attacks rather then them being a speed feat. Moreover the FTL point doesnt hold any meaning as this just means his as fast as the FTL character. And the rest just seems to be a case of prcog

Indeed, his precog helps him to dodge, that is what it does.

He isn’t as fast, he is listed as HHS+ compared to the FTL Meireki Kaiju

No one starts randomly complaing about their souls being damaged. And thats how it works, its literally on the profile.

You make it sound that Nard’s attack are all soul-based attacks.

The scans on the profile just show him grabbing his soul and the intangibility stuff, nothing about attacks from Nard damaging the soul. If it does, then those who has fought Nard in the war arc would gotten resistance to soul

OP says that naruto has access to higher forms, so he can go to Kurama Chakra Sage Mode

I know, I never denied it once, just that as he is starting, Nard doesn’t has access to other transformations’ abilities as of yet. That is all

In addition to this the sharingan can consistanly see the moves of all of naruto's shadow clones, the best example would be against kaguya naruto creates more than hundreds of clones and kaguya is able to defend against them all

Is Kaguya precog the shadow clones, or is just overall fast enough to react to them. Was it stated she was using sharingan to see their movements at that moment

This is so vague. Like does those blades have regeneration negation? or he just slices so fast that their opponets become smaller then atoms? also as mentioned above he has so many forms of damage reduction and forefield creation this is highly doubtfull. Also naruto cloak is corrosive and can vapourize things it comes into contact with, so would these blades even work?

Yes. And it means he is cutting him into many pieces.

I don’t see any justification for naruto’s cloak corroding metal or vaporizing things on the profile. Even so, Gen has resistance on his profile…It is the very first one

Where are you getting 6A and 6B from?

In the justification for the shield as it has noted them surviving attacks from Daikaiju of the Meirkei Era and Myserious Larva

i also forgot to mention is gen resistant to fear and madness hax? if not he just gets paralyzed/kills himself by KCM2 naruto bloodlusted aura

… it is there in the profile under Supernatural Willpower

 

[karo_senpaii]

Indeed that is what is listed, he can only last so long when overriden after he has overheated.

And I believe he is cutting. Agree to disagree, especially with High 6-B attacks coming his way

Indeed, his precog helps him to dodge, that is what it does.

He isn’t as fast, he is listed as HHS+ compared to the FTL Meireki Kaiju

You make it sound that Nard’s attack are all soul-based attacks.

The scans on the profile just show him grabbing his soul and the intangibility stuff, nothing about attacks from Nard damaging the soul. If it does, then those who has fought Nard in the war arc would gotten resistance to soul

I know, I never denied it once, just that as he is starting, Nard doesn’t has access to other transformations’ abilities as of yet. That is all

Is Kaguya precog the shadow clones, or is just overall fast enough to react to them. Was it stated she was using sharingan to see their movements at that moment

Yes. And it means he is cutting him into many pieces.

I don’t see any justification for naruto’s cloak corroding metal or vaporizing things on the profile. Even so, Gen has resistance on his profile…It is the very first one

In the justification for the shield as it has noted them surviving attacks from Daikaiju of the Meirkei Era and Myserious Larva

… it is there in the profile under Supernatural Willpower

If the shield protects him from 6A attacks then it should be put in his durability section.


Also if he has high 6a shields then yeah I don't think this match works. Naruto win cons are now reduced to zero.

 

[karo_senpaii]

Naruto the real character gets his speed reduced to HHS+ against a character that can keep up with ftl characters due to precog and has 6a shields .

Yeah bro this is a stomp match

 

[KobsterHope07]

If the shield protects him from 6A attacks then it should be put in his durability section.


Also if he has high 6a shields then yeah I don't think this match works. Naruto win cons are now reduced to zero.

I should have but in the re-making of the profiles, I only added in the majority of stuffs after like a day or three before commencing the CRT, didn’t think to consider it at the time, but given the justifications explaining the shield’s durability are on the profiles and technically it is “correct” in regard to it being “higher” per say, I shrugged my shoulders and leave it be as I was too lazy

 

[AlternativePrinciple]

Indeed that is what is listed, he can only last so long when overriden after he has overheated.

And I believe he is cutting. Agree to disagree, especially with High 6-B attacks coming his way

Indeed, his precog helps him to dodge, that is what it does.

He isn’t as fast, he is listed as HHS+ compared to the FTL Meireki Kaiju

k

You make it sound that Nard’s attack are all soul-based attacks. The scans on the profile just show him grabbing his soul and the intangibility stuff, nothing about attacks from Nard damaging the soul. If it does, then those who has fought Nard in the war arc would gotten resistance to soul

All the profiles are outdated and chakra as a whole is getting a revamped to include soul manipulation among other stuff.

I know, I never denied it once, just that as he is starting, Nard doesn’t has access to other transformations’ abilities as of yet. That is all

k

Is Kaguya precog the shadow clones, or is just overall fast enough to react to them. Was it stated she was using sharingan to see their movements at that moment

Its on her forehead so was using it the enitre time and naruto was fast enough to dodge her blitz level attacks

Yes. And it means he is cutting him into many pieces.

alright

I don’t see any justification for naruto’s cloak corroding metal or vaporizing things on the profile. Even so, Gen has resistance on his profile…It is the very first one

Its under the kuyubi tabber

In the justification for the shield as it has noted them surviving attacks from Daikaiju of the Meirkei Era and Myserious Larva

Then this match is a stomp

… it is there in the profile under Supernatural Willpower

i dont see it under resistance