Goku dbs scaling

[Gp972]

Son Goku (DBS Anime)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock and his mother Gine to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after...

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In Goku dbs profile says this

In Ultra Instinct Omen, he traded blows with a heavily suppressed Jiren, and his Ki alone was able to shake the entire World of Void,[79] which was completely unaffected by the fight between three Gods of Destruction,[163] with a fight between two Gods of Destruction being taboo[81] since it will result in the destruction of two universes, each of which consists of 6 space-time continuums

It should say it will result in the destruction of two universes, each of which consists of 3 space-time Continuums, right?

Also Goku should be 9 universes since it's there god of destruction, right?

this should be changed?

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I'm pretty sure the rules about 2-C scaling don't allow for that. Something about each level being considered to be beyond infinitely more powerful than the last.

 

[Gp972]

I'm pretty sure the rules about 2-C scaling don't allow for that. Something about each level being considered to be beyond infinitely more powerful than the last.

They allowed it, it's a feat not a multiplier

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Well, it's additive. Each GoD doesn't scale to 3 space-times, they downscale from baseline 6 space-times individually. So this would only really add up to 1.5 times baseline 6 space-times.

 

[Gp972]

Well, it's additive. Each GoD doesn't scale to 3 space-times, they downscale from baseline 6 space-times individually. So this would only really add up to 1.5 times baseline 6 space-times.

???

Destroying the Macrocosms is 3 space-times

Destroying two is 6 space-timess

A god of destrucción fighting with a other cause the destruction of two Macrocosms

 

[Rex_Eckles]

???

Destroying the Macrocosms is 3 space-times

Destroying two is 6 space-timess

A god of destrucción fighting with a other cause the destruction of two Macrocosms

The wiki doesn't treat the difference between destroying 1 space-time and 2 space-times as linear, it's treated as a beyond infinite difference.

 

[Ezaru]

The wiki doesn't treat the difference between destroying 1 space-time and 2 space-times as linear, it's treated as a beyond infinite difference.

2 Universes = 6 space-times, and three gods = 3 universes = 9 space times. And either way it should be "each with 3" not each with six.

There is no multiplier or addition per se. I'm not sure what the issue is. Goku would just be 9 universes into 2-C:

Characters or objects that can significantly affect, create and/or destroy small multiverses composed of two to a thousand separate space-time continuums, or an equivalent.

 

[Rex_Eckles]

2 Universes = 6 space-times, and three gods = 3 universes = 9 space times. And either way it should be "each with 3" not each with six.

There is no multiplier or addition per se. I'm not sure what the issue is. Goku would just be 9 universes into 2-C:

The problem is that this wiki doesn't treat it that way. If you take the power to destroy 6 space-times and divide in half, this wiki does not treat that as equivalent to destroying 3 space-times, it treats that as several infinities greater than that. Due to the unquantifiable "space" that separates between space-times, this wiki concludes that the only way to bridge the gap is to increase ones power a beyond infinite amount, and vice versa. Dividing it by a finite amount will do nothing.

 

[OblivionCiffer2202]

Son Goku (DBS Anime)

Son Goku (孫そん悟ご空くう, Son Gokū?) is the main protagonist of the Dragon Ball metaseries. He is a Saiyan sent to Earth as a baby by his father Bardock and his mother Gine to escape the destruction of the planet Vegeta and the Saiyan race. Adopted by Grandpa Gohan, he became a kind-hearted boy after...

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In Goku dbs profile says this

In Ultra Instinct Omen, he traded blows with a heavily suppressed Jiren, and his Ki alone was able to shake the entire World of Void,[79] which was completely unaffected by the fight between three Gods of Destruction,[163] with a fight between two Gods of Destruction being taboo[81] since it will result in the destruction of two universes, each of which consists of 6 space-time continuums

It should say it will result in the destruction of two universes, each of which consists of 3 space-time Continuums, right?

Also Goku should be 9 universes since it's there god of destruction, right?

this should be changed?

No, the statement is only for the battle of two Hakai-shin. It is never explained to us that yes, three Hakai-shin fight will destroy 3 Macrocosms/Universes(aside, it would just be like 6U greater than the base, I guess, totally speculative).

So as such, it's still 2-C(6U). That's why it doesn't scale to 9 as some have "deduced"(very vague deduction).

 

[OblivionCiffer2202]

The problem is that this wiki doesn't treat it that way. If you take the power to destroy 6 space-times and divide in half, this wiki does not treat that as equivalent to destroying 3 space-times, it treats that as several infinities greater than that. Due to the unquantifiable "space" that separates between space-times, this wiki concludes that the only way to bridge the gap is to increase ones power a beyond infinite amount, and vice versa. Dividing it by a finite amount will do nothing.

Yes, but that has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

It is true, that it is treated as an uncountable infinite difference, due to the addiction of the fourth dimension. And what each space-time is separate, however, here is being talked about yes the statement that the fight of three Hakai-shin would result in the destruction of 9 Macrocosms/Universes/Space-Time. Which it is not.

Apart from that it doesn't really matter much, it all depends on how many space-times you are affecting or destroying or creating. It doesn't matter the unquantifiable separation of each space-time, because the power of the character makes it capable of affecting others and that separation becomes "non-existent"(i don't know if you understand what I mean).

 

[OblivionCiffer2202]

2 Universes = 6 space-times, and three gods = 3 universes = 9 space times. And either way it should be "each with 3" not each with six.

There is no multiplier or addition per se. I'm not sure what the issue is. Goku would just be 9 universes into 2-C:

As such, we do not know nor do we have a statement as such whether the fight of three Hakai-shin would result in the destruction of 3 Macrocosms/Universes.

 

[Ezaru]

The problem is that this wiki doesn't treat it that way. If you take the power to destroy 6 space-times and divide in half, this wiki does not treat that as equivalent to destroying 3 space-times, it treats that as several infinities greater than that. Due to the unquantifiable "space" that separates between space-times, this wiki concludes that the only way to bridge the gap is to increase ones power a beyond infinite amount, and vice versa. Dividing it by a finite amount will do nothing.

But if 2 GoDs cause 2 universes, and the space between them to be destroyed, 3 would do the same right?

Sorry a bit confused

 

[Rex_Eckles]

But if 2 GoDs cause 2 universes, and the space between them to be destroyed, 3 would do the same right?

Sorry a bit confused

Yes, but that doesn't mean the space between an additional universe will be destroyed since there's no instance of three gods of destruction destroying 9 space-times. This wiki only accepts a "jump" for an additional space-time if either an additional space-time is destroyed in a feat or if the power of that person increases by a beyond infinite degree. By wiki standards, the addition of 1 GoD to the equation is only a power increase increase of 50%, not a beyond infinite %.

It's confusing, yes, I personally don't agree with it, but that's the way it is.

 

[Ezaru]

Yes, but that doesn't mean the space between an additional universe will be destroyed since there's no instance of three gods of destruction destroying 9 space-times. This wiki only accepts a "jump" for an additional space-time if either an additional space-time is destroyed in a feat or if the power of that person increases by a beyond infinite degree. By wiki standards, the addition of 1 GoD to the equation is only a power increase increase of 50%, not a beyond infinite %.

It's confusing, yes, I personally don't agree with it, but that's the way it is.

I get the standard (well, I dont. I dont see how the distance of nothingness even affects AP) but I dont quite see how it applies here

The GoDs are destroying the space between each time-space too

Like I get if you are Universe level and get 100x stronger that doesnt make you 100x universe level

But like, if you destroy a bubble with 10 universes includuing the space between them. Then you get 2x stronger shouldnt that then mean you are 20

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I get the standard (well, I dont. I dont see how the distance of nothingness even affects AP) but I dont quite see how it applies here

The GoDs are destroying the space between each time-space too

Like I get if you are Universe level and get 100x stronger that doesnt make you 100x universe level

But like, if you destroy a bubble with 10 universes includuing the space between them. Then you get 2x stronger shouldnt that then mean you are 20

Hm, I'm not sure how to elaborate more. If you want to try getting this revised, go ahead, maybe more knowledgable members can explain it better.

 

[Ezaru]

Hm, I'm not sure how to elaborate more. If you want to try getting this revised, go ahead, maybe more knowledgable members can explain it better.

No problem