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Steel vs Rejected Element so 35 elements (Superman vs Player [Elemental Battlegrounds])

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Yes, Metal (or steel) was a rejected element lmfao.
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Superman is 7-C and any higher is restricted.
Speed is equalized.

The Man of Steel:
He doesn't have steel: @Gamecooob @Ozcantabak @MannyQ361 @Delusionaltx2
Guest 666 unachors the torso of both people:
 
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obv its not gonna be like, a fist-to-fist fight, since EBG man can't really hurt em, supes no sells his own dura feat.

but uhhh... supes legit doesn't resist, practically any of Player's shit... Player has like, 50 different ways to incap supes.

so how does supes even win here lol? pulling an Omni Man and ripping the player in half with LS?
 
Gamecooob said:
obv its not gonna be like, a fist-to-fist fight, since EBG man can't really hurt em, supes no sells his own dura feat.
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John EBG doesn't even H2H. He mostly uses his spells. Player no-sells a myriad of attacks as well along with attacks stronger than him. Also, supes did not in fact no sell that. He actually just.. well.. fell and he was down. He still felt that so player can hurt supes.
Gamecooob said:
but uhhh... supes legit doesn't resist, practically any of Player's shit... Player has like, 50 different ways to incap supes.

so how does supes even win here lol? pulling an Omni Man and ripping the player in half with LS?
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Woah woah woah. Those are his elements. Incapping will be pretty hard to do for John EBG.

Also, Supes main wincon is trying to H2H and try to incap. Trying to H2H is not the smartest idea because contact spell dunk.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
John EBG doesn't even H2H. He mostly uses his spells.
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ya i knew that, just wanted to put it straight up.


Arkansalter2 said:
. Also, supes did not in fact no sell that. He actually just.. well.. fell and he was down. He still felt that so player can hurt supes.
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what I meant by "noselling" was that Supes just... didnt even have a scratch on him, he was just winded for a little bit but no bodily injury, so he upscales from that feat.


Arkansalter2 said:
Incapping will be pretty hard to do for John EBG.
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alot of Ultis should have higher LS than supes, atleast relative... and some of them Ultis can pack a fair punch like Gravity, Solar, Void etc.

also theres just ALOT of spells that can just blind supes, push him back, steal life force, heal John, stun, etc.

I think supes'll get overwhelmed quick here before his AD can be of any importance, since the best John EBG's are stun-combo spammers with no regard for fun, its gonna be a rough ride for the guy.
 
Gamecooob said:
what I meant by "noselling" was that Supes just... didnt even have a scratch on him, he was just winded for a little bit but no bodily injury, so he upscales from that feat.
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As does John EBG. John EBG can get sliced in the literal everything and he'll be completely fine.
Gamecooob said:
Gravity
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Theres better options but I get where you're coming with this.
Gamecooob said:
Solar
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This is one of the best options that John EBG has to be fair.
Gamecooob said:
Void
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Decent option, considering Supes H2H shenanigans.
Gamecooob said:
also theres just ALOT of spells that can just blind supes, push him back, steal life force, heal John, stun, etc.
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True.
Gamecooob said:
I think supes'll get overwhelmed quick here before his AD can be of any importance, since the best John EBG's are stun-combo spammers with no regard for fun, its gonna be a rough ride for the guy.
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This a vote for Player?
 
Arkansalter2 said:
As does John EBG. John EBG can get sliced in the literal everything and he'll be completely fine.
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No, they literaly don't no-sell the feat. The Player can he heavily harmed by ultimates. If they could no-sell the ultimates in game that'd make them completely useless lol. idk where you got that idea.
Arkansalter2 said:
Can he... take the battle to space? Nope. Player is completely fine being in places that essentially have no oxygen.
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There's no way you unironically gave them self-sustenance for being able to stand under a purely visual waterfall, right?

Anyways, even if that wasn't the stupidest thing i've ever seen, being able to survive underwater and surviving in space are two very different things. If you took them to space they'd likely die anyways because the lack of oxygen is the least of their problems in that situation.
Arkansalter2 said:
Can he... Heat Vision? Nope. Player no-sells lightning attacks and doesn't even get torched by them.
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Also you literally see the person get damaged by the lightning here... Thats not a no-sell lol. Thats not a resistance to heat either, since lightning doesn't hold their incredibly hot temperature for long at all. Humans can survive lightning strikes, are you gonna give the people who've survived lightning strikes a resistance to heat cuz they survived that lol?
 
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Comiphorous said:
If they could no-sell the ultimates in game that'd make them completely useless lol.
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No sell. Not tank. Theres a difference. Tanking is a lack of damage. I said they no-sell the feat. Player basically no-reacts to many if not all moves in the game. Theres a difference between no-selling and tanking.
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If you took them to space they'd likely die anyways because the lack of oxygen is the least of their problems in that situation.
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They're both places with a lack of oxygen but if you're talking about the myriad of other space effects then sure.
Comiphorous said:
Also you literally see the person get damaged by the lightning here... Thats not a no-sell lol. Thats not a resistance to heat either, since lightning doesn't hold their incredibly hot temperature for long at all. Humans can survive lightning strikes, are you gonna give the people who've survived lightning strikes a resistance to heat cuz they survived that lol?
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See above. Theres a difference between tanking and noselling. Yes, many moves are capable of harming the opponent but most if not all moves do not leave a reaction on the player. Also, they literally get struck like a bajillion times here and they can survive multiple in quick succession here.
 
Also, that water is not visual as you can clearly hear player splashing in the water and occasionally floating in said water.
 
doesnt the volcanic eruption move that the player scales to only take like, 200 HP from a player that has 1250 HP anyway?
 
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If they resist all these things, why on gods earth wouldn't they have it listed on their profile? as of right now you can't even argue that the player would be able to withstand Superman's lasers regardless if he can no-sell it, it'd still just burn right through them.
 
Can't Player withstand plasma attacks (and straight up become immune to them with Flame Body)? Heat Vision shouldn't be able to cut right through them.
 
AThe1412 said:
Can't Player withstand plasma attacks (and straight up become immune to them with Flame Body)? Heat Vision shouldn't be able to cut right through them.
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That'd be cool if it was on the profile. You lowkey have to know the verse to even be able to comprehend this profile, which stinks.
 
Comiphorous said:
That'd be cool if it was on the profile. You lowkey have to know the verse to even be able to comprehend this profile, which stinks.
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I’m guessing “Minor Immunity to fire via Flame Body (Can render the user immune to burn damage)” isn’t enough evidence to say that they resist plasma/fire..?
 
TheObscureGameGuy said:
I’m guessing “Minor Immunity to fire via Flame Body (Can render the user immune to burn damage)” isn’t enough evidence to say that they resist plasma/fire..?
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becoming immune to regular fire isn't gonna make you immune to 5000 degrees of laser vision.
 
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DaReaperMan said:
Which for all you know is a nice 85° Fahrenheit summer's day that they're harming ******* with.
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I certainly do love this summer day, having a artificial "sun" concentrate a blast that's whatever something degrees. I want to remind you that Solar is created using Space and Lava as a fusion. As stated before, Lava should be around thousands of degrees due to it having volcano level heat, and Space's ultimate is a quote on quote "supernova". Having Solar being superior to them both in not only power but also arguably heat due to being a fusion should already be reasonable evidence that this isn't just regular fire. Even if it isn't resistant enough, at least it'll make the heat vision slightly less lethal.
 
Comiphorous said:
If they resist all these things, why on gods earth wouldn't they have it listed on their profile? as of right now you can't even argue that the player would be able to withstand Superman's lasers regardless if he can no-sell it, it'd still just burn right through them.
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They literally no-sell lightning attacks and don't even get fried by said lightning. They literally can go skinny dipping in acid and they're just fine (which is an immo 2 justification). But sure. Lemme get this quick CRT going on the resistances since you want it added to the profile so damn bad.
 
Arkansalter2 said:
They literally no-sell lightning attacks and don't even get fried by said lightning.
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Imma be fr I don't think they'd qualify for being real lightning considering how it acts nothing like real lightning...

And even if it did, that doesn't mean they have a heat resistance. Normal humans can survive lightning strikes despite their immense heat.
Arkansalter2 said:
They literally can go skinny dipping in acid and they're just fine (which is an immo 2 justification)
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Thats a resistance to acid manipulation, not immortality type 2. If they're fine they weren't surviving any deathly injuries that'd qualify them for Immo 2. Why is this profile scared of putting resistances down??
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But sure. Lemme get this quick CRT going on the resistances since you want it added to the profile so damn bad.
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Yes i would like if you didn't leave the profile in a completely ass state that only makes sense because you played the game.
 
Comiphorous said:
Imma be fr I don't think they'd qualify for being real lightning considering how it acts nothing like real lightning...
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I mean you could argue that it is lightning, as the element it comes from is called “Storm” and not Electricity or Lightning. Plus it can be used for a fusion for Nature, which is Storm + Grass, which I guess the Storm rains down on Grass making it grow into Nature?
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I played it a long time ago, around the time it first came out. Don't remember hating it. maybe.
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Game gets insanely grindy and annoying once you get to 40+ servers. You also get combo’d to oblivion by crazy elements. Unless you really dedicate time it gets dreadful.
 
TheObscureGameGuy said:
Plus it can be used for a fusion for Nature, which is Storm + Grass, which I guess the Storm rains down on Grass making it grow into Nature?
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Nature is a strange fusion. A more plausible argument is the Plasma fusion in which, according to the EBG wiki
  • Plasma's Fusion likely stems from the fact that sufficiently hot flames can become plasma and electrical discharge from storms can cause plasma-related phenomena.
 
Comiphorous said:
Why is this profile scared of putting resistances down??
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Since you keep assing me about it..
vsbattles.com

John EBG Resistances.

Well. Here we go here we go here we go. Resistance to Heat Manipulation: 54,000F or 30000C (Is unaffected by the burning properties of lightning attacks, which can output up to 54,000F or 30000C), likely at least 5500 kelvin (According to google, searching up exploding yellow star temperature is...
vsbattles.com vsbattles.com
 
Anyways continue the args. He has upscaling heat resistance and limited ice resistance now.
 
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