Blaziken (Pokemon) vs Izuku Midoyria (My Hero Academia)

[Kinggg121132]

Deku Final War Arc vs Mega Blaziken​

• Combatants:
  • Izuku Midoriya (Final War Arc, 45% Limit)
  • Mega Blaziken (has speed boost every tun 50% increase to it's speed up to 6 times) (No Dynamax)
    Rules:
  • Speed is unequalized
  • Both are in-character but serious
  • Victory by KO, incapacitation
  • Battlefield: Neutral open field (urban or canyon), 50 meters apart
  • No outside support, summons, or prep time
  • Standard equipment and abilities only

Category	Deku (Final War Arc, 45%)	Mega Blaziken
Tier	High 6-A (Multi-Continent level)	6-C (Island level)
Attack Potency	Multi-Continent level (Consistently fought Incomplete Shigaraki, who rivaled Prime All Might)	Island level (Scales from high-tier Pokémon such as Infernape, Lucario, etc.)
Durability	Multi-Continent level (Tanked hits from Shigaraki and continued fighting)	Island level (Tough but nowhere near High 6-A)
Speed	Relativistic+ (45% outpaced Shigaraki who blitzed Pro Heroes, can react to Radio Waves)	FTL (Scales from Mega Lucario, Greninja dodging light-speed attacks)
Lifting Strength	Class P (Can restrain powerhouses like Muscular and Shigaraki)	Class M (Above-human, standard for top Pokémon)
Stamina	Extremely High (Fought across multiple battlefields, survived severe injuries)	Very High (Can endure multiple battles with high damage output)
Intelligence	Genius combat instincts, strategy layering with multiple Quirks	Gifted in battle as Blaziken (Should be superior to 1st and 2nd stage Pokémon and are able to consistently fight the likes of Machamp which have mastered all martial arts, as well as Alakazam.) Alakazam is extremely intelligent, smart enough to outperform a supercomputer and perform complex calculations to gain an edge in battles. It is said to have an IQ of 5,000, and never forgets what it learns)
Range	Tens of meters (Blackwhip, Smokescreen, shockwaves from punches)	Mid-range (projectile moves like Flamethrower, Fire Blast)

 

[Machmatej]

idk anything about pokemon. Does Ryukyu being a dragon automatically give her "dragon moves"?

 

[Kinggg121132]

idk anything about pokemon. Does Ryukyu being a dragon automatically give her "dragon moves"?

Hmm not really dragon moves in pokemon are like draconic magic way she attacks would be like normal/fighting style. Like if shoto fought regidrago his ice attacks would be super effective etc.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Hmm not really dragon moves in pokemon are like draconic magic way she attacks would be like normal/fighting style. Like if shoto fought regidrago his ice attacks would be super effective etc.

You dont have be a actual dragon to know dragon moves as long as pokemon knows draconic magic they can use dragons moves.

 

[Machmatej]

Hmm not really dragon moves in pokemon are like draconic magic way she attacks would be like normal/fighting style. Like if shoto fought regidrago his ice attacks would be super effective etc.

Then I don't really see a win con for Ryukyu here, besides hitting Regidrago really hard ig. She either gets ripped apart by superior LS, paralyzed, or destroyed at a range.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Then I don't really see a win con for Ryukyu here, besides hitting Regidrago really hard ig. She either gets ripped apart by superior LS, paralyzed, or destroyed at a range.

Ah oops hope didnt make stomp match up i saw ap dura being similar so thought it be competitive

 

[Machmatej]

High 6-A pokemon seem to scale to 216.31 Petatons, going off the calculation on the verse page, while Ryukyu massively downscales from 42.37 Petatons. That's almost one-shot territory lmao. Yeah, this looks like a stomp.

 

[Kinggg121132]

High 6-A pokemon seem to scale to 216.31 Petatons, going off the calculation on the verse page, while Ryukyu massively downscales from 42.37 Petatons. That's almost one-shot territory lmao. Yeah, this looks like a stomp.

alright imma change the match up then

 

[Kinggg121132]

High 6-A pokemon seem to scale to 216.31 Petatons, going off the calculation on the verse page, while Ryukyu massively downscales from 42.37 Petatons. That's almost one-shot territory lmao. Yeah, this looks like a stomp.

yeah changed the match up now shouldnt be a stomp due to speed boost (and deku has all his quirks to his disposal.)

 

[Machmatej]

Deku scales to Class P, not Class G.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Deku scales to Class P, not Class G.

minor spelling mistake fixed

 

[Machmatej]

Anyway, to get the speed issue out of the way, from what I see from Blaziken's profile, it scales to Lycanroc, who scales to Golem, who reacted to a solar beam. Am I right to assume this only scales to combat/reaction speed and not travel speed too?

 

[Kinggg121132]

Anyway, to get the speed issue out of the way, from what I see from Blaziken's profile, it scales to Lycanroc, who scales to Golem, who reacted to a solar beam. Am I right to assume this only scales to combat/reaction speed and not travel speed too?

yeah combat and reaction not travel speed since solar beam just gathers power of the sun light and then fires it at the target.

 

[Kinggg121132]

yeah combat and reaction not travel speed since solar beam just gathers power of the sun light and then fires it at the target.

also i should mention this blaziken can ignore deku's danger sense with feint since it goes through pre cog moves like detect. and if hit by deku, blaziken can hit him back with same force but 2x with counter. and speed boost every turn gives blaziken 50% speed boost up to 6 times.

 

[Arkansalter2]

 

[Machmatej]

yeah combat and reaction not travel speed since solar beam just gathers power of the sun light and then fires it at the target.

Either way, the difference in speed is less than 2x in favor of Blaziken, so it wouldn't really be speedblitzing here. And Deku has ways to further amp his speed even while limited to 45%, which include Gearshift and Fa Jin, which were able to boost his speed enough to blitz people on par with his own base speed.

also i should mention this blaziken can ignore deku's danger sense with feint since it goes through pre cog moves like detect. and if hit by deku, blaziken can hit him back with same force but 2x with counter.

Deku's danger sense isn't exactly precognition, at least not in the normal sense. It works more like an alarm bell that warns him of incoming danger via hostility and bloodlust, rather than straight up telling him the future. Unless Blaziken can somehow hide/mask its intentions, then it wouldn't ignore Danger Sense.

So Deku has speed amps to help him close the speed gap, at least somewhat, a warning system that allows him to predict incoming attacks, superior mobility via float and black whip, and superior range with shockwaves. Also worth noting that even one touch from Deku would let him freeze Blaziken via Gearshift. And with such a high gap in AP and LS, Blaziken would get utterly destroyed.

 

[Arceus0x]

Do you guys not know how to make versus threads on here?
An 8x difference = one-shot. Combine that with Izuku's speed amps and it's Blaizaken gets washed. Also, it has no way of harming Izuku.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Either way, the difference in speed is less than 2x in favor of Blaziken, so it wouldn't really be speedblitzing here. And Deku has ways to further amp his speed even while limited to 45%, which include Gearshift and Fa Jin, which were able to boost his speed enough to blitz people on par with his own base speed.

Deku's danger sense isn't exactly precognition, at least not in the normal sense. It works more like an alarm bell that warns him of incoming danger via hostility and bloodlust, rather than straight up telling him the future. Unless Blaziken can somehow hide/mask its intentions, then it wouldn't ignore Danger Sense.

So Deku has speed amps to help him close the speed gap, at least somewhat, a warning system that allows him to predict incoming attacks, superior mobility via float and black whip, and superior range with shockwaves. Also worth noting that even one touch from Deku would let him freeze Blaziken via Gearshift. And with such a high gap in AP and LS, Blaziken would get utterly destroyed.

Hmm i see you think 6 speed boost even deku could touch him?

 

[Kinggg121132]

Do you guys not know how to make versus threads on here?
An 8x difference = one-shot. Combine that with Izuku's speed amps and it's Blaizaken gets washed. Also, it has no way of harming Izuku.

I thought with speed boost hax it be fine i mean could use lower % deku but then its a stomp

 

[Arceus0x]

Hmm i see you think 6 speed boost even deku could touch him?

Unless the speed boost has a definitive multiplier that follows the multiplier rules, it will not be allowed past SoL. Blaizaken is 7c and has speed boosts.

But, here's the catch. None of this matters. Izuku has High 6-A shockwaves with kilometers range. Blaizaken isn't dodging aoe or shockwaves. It's over if Blaizaken gets grazed.

Please read up on versus thread rules.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Unless the speed boost has a definitive multiplier that follows the multiplier rules, it will not be allowed past SoL. Blaizaken is 7c and has speed boosts.

But, here's the catch. None of this matters. Izuku has High 6-A shockwaves with kilometers range. Blaizaken isn't dodging aoe or shockwaves. It's over if Blaizaken gets grazed.

Please read up on versus thread rules.

Speed boost is 50% multiplier up to 6 times

 

[Machmatej]

Unless the speed boost has a definitive multiplier that follows the multiplier rules, it will not be allowed past SoL. Blaizaken is 7c and has speed boosts.

Blaziken unquantifiably upscales from 1.17c

 

[Arceus0x]

Blaziken unquantifiably upscales from 1.17c

Pretty sure we scaled Megas to Ash Greninja's 7c feat

 

[Arceus0x]

Speed boost is 50% multiplier up to 6 times

Doesn't matter. Blaizaken can't do anything to Deku. It's a difference of several thousands. It's like an ant punching a human. No matter how fast Blaizaken goes it will eventually get caught up in a shockwave and die.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Blaziken unquantifiably upscales from 1.17c

Its not unquantifiable its just 50% 6 times at max

 

[Kinggg121132]

Doesn't matter. Blaizaken can't do anything to Deku. It's a difference of several thousands. It's like an ant punching a human. No matter how fast Blaizaken goes it will eventually get caught up in a shockwave and die.

Fair enough just wanted clarify theres multipliers

 

[Machmatej]

Pretty sure we scaled Megas to Ash Greninja's 7c feat

I don't know, but the chain scaling on Blaziken's profile scales him to a 1.17c calc.

 

[Arceus0x]

I don't know, but the chain scaling on Blaziken's profile scales him to a 1.17c calc.

That's cause pokemon profiles are basically dead and haven't gotten revised in quite a while.

Fair enough just wanted clarify theres multipliers

Speed amps only go up to 4x in the games.

 

[Machmatej]

Its not unquantifiable its just 50% 6 times at max

50% of 6x his initial speed? So from 1.17 to 3.51c?

 

[Kinggg121132]

Doesn't matter. Blaizaken can't do anything to Deku. It's a difference of several thousands. It's like an ant punching a human. No matter how fast Blaizaken goes it will eventually get caught up in a shockwave and die.

would 30%? with shift and fajin work? or could i do 30% no shift fajin vs just reg normal blaze blaziken

 

[Kinggg121132]

50% of 6x his initial speed? So from 1.17 to 3.51c?

yes it works like 1.17 x 1.5 = 1.75500 x 1.5 = and so on it stacks pretty much so after first speed boost its 1.75000 x 1.5 then whatever that is times 1.5 again

 

[Machmatej]

That's cause pokemon profiles are basically dead and haven't gotten revised in quite a while.

Then shouldn't this match be held off until the profile revisions? Because I don't think we can do a match if we assign ratings that aren't on the characters' profiles. And even then there's the issue of this being a stomp in someone's favor.

 

[Kinggg121132]

yes it works like 1.17 x 1.5 = 1.75500 x 1.5 = and so on it stacks pretty much so after first speed boost its 1.75000 x 1.5 then whatever that is times 1.5 again

so with 6 speed boost it would cap out at 13.32703125

 

[Machmatej]

would 30%? with shift and fajin work?

Then that would be the same issue but this time it's Blaziken stomping Deku in stats.

or could i do 30% no shift fajin vs just reg normal blaze blaziken

Then Deku gets blitzed unless speed is equalized. Because then you have Mach 25 Deku vs Mach 1000+ Blaziken.

 

[Arceus0x]

Then shouldn't this match be held off until the profile revisions? Because I don't think we can do a match if we assign ratings that aren't on the characters' profiles. And even then there's the issue of this being a stomp in someone's favor.

This match should just be closed because
1. Revisions gonna take lots of time, maybe never, pokemon verse is half dead right now with only some keeping up revisions.
2. Still a massive stomp.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Then that would be the same issue but this time it's Blaziken stomping Deku in stats.


Then Deku gets blitzed unless speed is equalized. Because then you have Mach 25 Deku vs Mach 1000+ Blaziken.

yeah mis match up only reason why i changed it do this because speed boost multipliers stack didnt know deku could tag some one that fast lol

 

[Arceus0x]

yeah mis match up only reason why i changed it do this because speed boost multipliers stack didnt know deku could tag some one that fast lol

Doesn't matter if he can tag him or not. The AP difference is so bad Deku can basically pull out a chair whilst Blaizaken fails to damage him.

 

[Kinggg121132]

Doesn't matter if he can tag him or not. The AP difference is so bad Deku can basically pull out a chair whilst Blaizaken fails to damage him.

got it my b close the thread

 

[Arceus0x]

got it my b close the thread

Next time you make a thread make sure the AP difference is below 8x and check the abilities to see if anyone has a wincon. You can make a match with a bigger AP gap but only if the opponents have a way to circumvent durability.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Hmm so from what it looks like, speed boost plus a fairly decent speed advantage would allow Blaziken to dodge around deku is that it? Idk if that would work since speed boost is more of a gradual amp compared to gearshift and fa jin being more immediate amps (unless 45% only limits the quirks he can use since technically when stacking quirks he has faux 100%)

How hot are fire type attacks in pokemon? Blazikens normal attacks are bouncing off here stat boosts be damned.