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Strongest Sorcerer Fights A Singer (Gojo vs Uta)

That_moron2 said:
He can just spawn a blue on her though, which is the main argument
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Yeah, unfortunately it's not happening before Uta gets hers off. She still has much faster reactions and response time. It's going to be like the Flash vs a random civilian. That's just how speed works.
 
Honestly, all the Gojo votes should be reconsidered since that crucial piece of information wasn't known at the time they were cast.
 
I'm ngl, going from the clip in their speed section, I think they should just have outright FTL combat speed. Very surprised it's only reaction speed which is only for short movements like dodging an attack. Not full on attacks that can catch and restrain FTL characters. All FTL reactions would enable is her to dodge one attack from them and that's it.
 
LaserPrecision said:
I'm ngl, going from the clip in their speed section, I think they should just have outright FTL combat speed. Very surprised it's only reaction speed which is only for short movements like dodging an attack. Not full on attacks that can catch and restrain FTL characters. All FTL reactions would enable is her to dodge one attack from them and that's it.
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Probably yeah, when I made the page I put FTL reactions because she can't physically fight that fast, but I now know that's not what that means
 
That_moron2 said:
Probably yeah, when I made the page I put FTL reactions because she can't physically fight that fast, but I now know that's not what that means
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You should probably change that. It immediately fixes the problem is this match-up, because said combat speed would get reduced to Gojo's combat speed. It's also obviously just more accurate. A person with high reaction speed isn't going to be hitting or restraining people millions of times faster than them with that much ease consistently. If she's not physically that fast, it's a lil weirder. Maybe it would be FTL Attack speed with FTL reactions? I dunno, still seems like combat speed to me with how it's used In application. How do you know she's not physically that fast?
 
That_moron2 said:
She's a normal human outside of Uta World.
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So does she actually do all of that dancing she did in the clip on her profile while fighting them orrrr was that like, just symbolic? Cuz moving her body that much to dance while fighting those peeps should def be combat speed. Especially since she was doing it WHILE they were trying to fire an attack at her.
 
LaserPrecision said:
So does she actually do all of that dancing she did in the clip on her profile while fighting them orrrr was that like, just symbolic? Cuz moving her body that much to dance while fighting those peeps should def be combat speed. Especially since she was doing it WHILE they were trying to fire an attack at her.
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I'm not sure if its symbolic or not but its in Uta World so her physicals outside of that wouldn't scale
 
i mean, would it still not take like 0.0001 seconds to paste Uta, cuz its a big AP gap + LS gap

like, even if we were to say "she dodges", its a gravitational pull, no?
 
LaserPrecision said:
So does she actually do all of that dancing she did in the clip on her profile while fighting them orrrr was that like, just symbolic? Cuz moving her body that much to dance while fighting those peeps should def be combat speed. Especially since she was doing it WHILE they were trying to fire an attack at her.
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What are you talking about? Uta reacting to Kizaru and Issho's attacks is not any type of attack or dancing. You can watch the clip for yourself. It's literally her reacting to them and controlling people's bodies to intercept and fight them. The activation of her ability and response type is far beyond anything Gojo has.
 
Kachon123 said:
What are you talking about? Uta reacting to Kizaru and Issho's attacks is not any type of attack or dancing. You can watch the clip for yourself. It's literally her reacting to them and controlling people's bodies to intercept and fight them. The activation of her ability and response type is far beyond anything Gojo has.
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I'm not even talking about Gojo here. I'm saying she's dancing in the clip BEFORE being attacked by FTL characters. Why does she not have FTL combat speed. That is several movements in the same timeframe someone is trying to attack her. That would be valid evidence for combat speed. That's why I asked if she was actually dancing, or if that CGI vtuber looking model dancing bit actually happened or if it was symbolic but didn't actually happen.
 
LaserPrecision said:
The one linked in her speed section on the profile. Wut exactly are you asking for an example of? Are we speaking of different clips? If so that's mb
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As @That_moron2 mentioned, the ones linked in her profile are in Uta World. Her reacting to Issho and Kizaru, was not.

I'm asking for Uta, not in the Uta World having solely combat or attack speed feats like you claimed.
 
Kachon123 said:
As @That_moron2 mentioned, the ones linked in her profile are in Uta World. Her reacting to Issho and Kizaru, was not.

I'm asking for Uta, not in the Uta World having solely combat or attack speed feats like you claimed.
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If you could post scans for her reacting to Issho and Kizaru that would be appreciated
 
Kachon123 said:
I'm asking for Uta, not in the Uta World having solely combat or attack speed feats like you claimed.
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Oh, I assumed that wasn't for Uta World. Shouldn't it have like, a secondary key or smth? I don't read or watch One Piece so I was just going based on the profile. Well, I take that back, I started reading it, but I'm barely that far in.
 
Kachon123 said:
Right so here's the issue. Speed is equalized, meaning Gojo is now human level. Uta's reactions are not equalized as only combat speed is equalized as per Versus Thread Rules:



Uta has FTL reactions. She's not getting tagged here. She has a LOT of time before the 0.2 s Domain gets activated. Gojo gets trapped into Uta World before he even realizes it.
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this means Gojo's combat AND reaction speed is equalized to Uta's level (or Uta is equalized to Gojo's level, same thing)

meaning Gojo just uses thought based Blue inside her and crushes her into bloody paste

Domain Expansion was never Gojo's initial winning argument, just one of many that I mentioned halfheartedly

stop trying to get wins for one piece by spouting nonsensical bullsh*t
 
like @Kachon123's argument is that Uta has FTL reaction speed while Gojo is human level reaction speed in a speed equalized match

do I need to explain why that's preposterous

Gojo gets equalized to Real World Uta's speed since Uta doesn't start with Uta World active

meaning Gojo can just kill her before she sings a note since thought based blue crushes her faster than Uta sings a note
 
"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc."

so this basically says:

"combat speed is equalized"

"reaction speed is also equalized"

so why are people saying it's not equalized
 
Mickey1940 said:
"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight, etc."

so this basically says:

"combat speed is equalized"

"reaction speed is also equalized"

so why are people saying it's not equalized
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Just to clarify, they aren't equalized, they're just lowered by the same factor. If a Subsonic characters uses a Mach 20 gun, it would equalize like this

Character A: 34 m/s, 7000 m/s with railgun
Character B: 5 m/s
Equalization makes Character A 6.8x slower. Their railgun also gets 6.8x slower making it this
Character A: 5 m/s, 1029 m/s with railgun
Character B: 5 m/s

It's reduced by the same factor, but not dropped to the same value. This is to compensate for characters who have reactions, attacks, perception, etc. that is way faster than their combat speed.
 
LaserPrecision said:
Just to clarify, they aren't equalized, they're just lowered by the same factor. If a Subsonic characters uses a Mach 20 gun, it would equalize like this

Character A: 34 m/s, 7000 m/s with railgun
Character B: 5 m/s
Equalization makes Character A 6.8x slower. Their railgun also gets 6.8x slower making it this
Character A: 5 m/s, 1029 m/s with railgun
Character B: 5 m/s

It's reduced by the same factor, but not dropped to the same value. This is to compensate for characters who have reactions, attacks, perception, etc. that is way faster than their combat speed.
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alright, Uta FRA
 
LaserPrecision said:
Just to clarify, they aren't equalized, they're just lowered by the same factor. If a Subsonic characters uses a Mach 20 gun, it would equalize like this

Character A: 34 m/s, 7000 m/s with railgun
Character B: 5 m/s
Equalization makes Character A 6.8x slower. Their railgun also gets 6.8x slower making it this
Character A: 5 m/s, 1029 m/s with railgun
Character B: 5 m/s

It's reduced by the same factor, but not dropped to the same value. This is to compensate for characters who have reactions, attacks, perception, etc. that is way faster than their combat speed.
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that means Gojo just gets equalized to whatever Uta is accepted to be since Uta doesn't have "human level combat speed"

From my perspective, the situation is like this:

1. Uta is a normal human through and through, human level everything outside Uta World, with FTL+ speed IN the uta world, meaning Gojo just gets equalized to Human level but he uses blue and it's gg
2. Uta is a normal human who happens to have FTL+ speed since she can react to the Straw Hats even OUTSIDE of Uta World, meaning Gojo just gets equalized to that since Uta doesn't have a separate key or separate explanation for her "combat speed". Her speed is SET to FTL+ on her profile, meaning she's FTL+ IN and OUT of Uta World. We have no reason to assume that Uta can dodge attacks and move her body FTL, but when she actually punches someone, she's as slow as a normal human, that doesn't make any sense in universe or otherwise, PLUS it's STILL not on her profile, meaning her speed would just be FTL, meaning Gojo gets equalized to that, meaning she just gets splattered by blue gg

regardless of all of this, either Uta is a normal human in every regard and she gets splattered, or she's a really fast human that Gojo gets equalized to, and she gets splattered. Either way she gets splattered faster than Uta can sing a note
That_moron2 said:
Probably yeah, when I made the page I put FTL reactions because she can't physically fight that fast, but I now know that's not what that means
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I see now that what I mentioned above has been addressed

from what I can see on the link to her profile, the reacted to a surprise attack from Trafalgar Law imgur link doesn't even have Law in it, unless Im missing something

did you link the wrong thing?

I can't say if her combat speed should be set to FTL+ cuz the feat of her reacting at FTL+ speed probably has the wrong link. From what I can see on her profile, her only speed feat (subduing the Straw Hats) is in Uta World, while she is featless outside of Uta World since the link doesn't actually show her non-Uta World Speed
 
ok yeah I just watched the whole movie

kinda weird dialogue but overall enjoyable

uta never fought law in the real world, she never interacted with anyone in combat or reacted to anything in the real world

meaning she should definitely have a seperate key for Uta World specifically, since she can combat the Straw Hats and everyone else in her own world, but she doesn't do anything in the real world at all

meaning Gojo just gets equalized to human Uta, who has no FTL+ reactions, meaning Blue just splatters
 
Mickey1940 said:
ok yeah I just watched the whole movie

kinda weird dialogue but overall enjoyable

uta never fought law in the real world, she never interacted with anyone in combat or reacted to anything in the real world

meaning she should definitely have a seperate key for Uta World specifically, since she can combat the Straw Hats and everyone else in her own world, but she doesn't do anything in the real world at all

meaning Gojo just gets equalized to human Uta, who has no FTL+ reactions, meaning Blue just splatters
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Wrong thread
 
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