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Tohno Shiki vs the King of renamed Vampire species #183426

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Tohno Shiki

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Muzan Kibutsuji

Guy who gets silly when he sees vampires vs vampire guy.

Speed is equalized. Fight takes place at the front entrance to Shiki’s highschool at night. Starting distance of 5 meters. Tsukihime Shiki is used.

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This chair (Shiki): @Fallen_Angelicx , yours truly ,

Not actually Genius intelligence (Muzan):

Yumizuka kills them both:
 
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Battle Spirit 🗿 He resists being paralyzed but that doesn't stop him from being absolutely fear haxxed especially considering he is ridiculously inferior to Muzan in stats.
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Battle Spirit 🗿 He resists being paralyzed but that doesn't stop him from being absolutely fear haxxed especially considering he is ridiculously inferior to Muzan in stats.
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Resists mind manip, but regardless Muzan’s fear hax isn’t real. It’s just demon slayer characters being aurapressed methinks…

Why does Muzan having a large aura stop Shiki meaningfully?
 
BadSystems said:
Resists mind manip, but regardless Muzan’s fear hax isn’t real. It’s just demon slayer characters being aurapressed methinks…

Why does Muzan having a large aura stop Shiki meaningfully?
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I don't think mind manipulation is even attached to Battle Spirit- And by profile description it really is real.
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It is real and so are the effects. In other similar matches, Muzan just passively wins via this. It stops Shiki from having the will to fight against him aswell as damaging him internally, rendering him incapped aswell as getting fear haxxxed which Shiki doesn't resist at all
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
I don't think mind manipulation is even attached to Battle Spirit- And by profile description it really is real.

It is real and so are the effects. In other similar matches, Muzan just passively wins via this. It stops Shiki from having the will to fight against him aswell as damaging him internally, rendering him incapped aswell as getting fear haxxxed which Shiki doesn't resist at all
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Fear manipulation is a subset of mind manipulation btw, and all the profile says is that aura can scare some fodder. Okay?

As for the weird bleeding shit with Akaza, is this ever replicated with any non-demon? He has authority over them, I’m not moved. Why is this being attributed to battle spirit anyway? What indicates it’s the same ability if I may ask?
 
BadSystems said:
Fear manipulation is a subset of mind manipulation btw, and all the profile says is that aura can scare some fodder. Okay?

As for the weird bleeding shit with Akaza, is this ever replicated with any non-demon? He has authority over them, I’m not moved. Why is this being attributed to battle spirit anyway? What indicates it’s the same ability if I may ask?
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Honestly. It puzzles me aswell. I'm only relaying what I've picked up on it's usage in other recent matches dating back to days. Its potency is so crazy that basically any character applicable with battle spirit stomps another without resistance to it's effects. Most notable was Cell from DB who almost lost to Muzan because of it, Yes Cell the Solar System nuker. I would discuss this with the supporters ngl because even i find it sketch. Btw, Mind hax and Fear hax although linked. Resisting Mind Hax doesn't give resistance to supernaturally induced fear btw, especially when it's passive.
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
Honestly. It puzzles me aswell. I'm only relaying what I've picked up on it's usage in other recent matches dating back to days. Its potency is so crazy that basically any character applicable with battle spirit stomps another without resistance to it's effects. Most notable was Cell from DB who almost lost to Muzan because of it, Yes Cell the Solar System nuker. I would discuss this with the supporters ngl because even i find it sketch. Btw, Mind hax and Fear hax although linked. Resisting Mind Hax doesn't give resistance to supernaturally induced fear btw, especially when it's passive.
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Yeah the usage is kind of nonsensical. “Battle Spirit” really is just aura. It’s more-so limited fear inducement rather than limited fear manipulation. Don’t know if it even should be fear inducement? Hax for scaring people by having a large aura? I don’t think the “fear manipulation” can be universally applied, it’s a case by case thing of people getting scared of his aura. Supporters would have to argue as to why Muzan’s big energy would scare Shiki shitless
 
BadSystems said:
Yeah the usage is kind of nonsensical. “Battle Spirit” really is just aura. It’s more-so limited fear inducement rather than limited fear manipulation. Don’t know if it even should be fear inducement? Hax for scaring people by having a large aura? I don’t think the “fear manipulation” can be universally applied, it’s a case by case thing of people getting scared of his aura. Supporters would have to argue as to why Muzan’s big energy would scare Shiki shitless
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That is true. Just as it is argued if Makima's Conquest would control another character. Alas, people here love to wank for versus matches sake which is why shit like this happens. Let's move on from the battle spirit until other participants join in. I believe Shiki just kills Muzan with his hax lolll
 
Fallen_Angelicx said:
That is true. Just as it is argued if Makima's Conquest would control another character. Alas, people here love to wank for versus matches sake which is why shit like this happens. Let's move on from the battle spirit until other participants join in. I believe Shiki just kills Muzan with his hax lolll
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Assuming Muzan can’t just auradiff him I’m pretty sure Shiki wins pretty handily. He’s got his speed amps with which he can turn Muzan into 17 Muzans, and it’s very likely he’d get bloodlusted on sight with Muzan ngl
 
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