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Battle of the Swordsmen (Artoria vs Zoro)

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Zoro got lost and entered the 5th Holy Grail War. Encountering Artoria, Zoro wants to test his sword skills.

Standard Battle Assumptions

Speed equalized

Zoro scales to 200.99 Gigatons in base without haki, 17.25343 Teratons with his strongest attacks.

Artoria scales to 2.8882 Teratons with Excalibur, and 216 gigatons in base.

Beginning of Timeskip Zoro vs Artoria (Rin as Master)

Holy Sword User:

3 Sword Style: 1


Incon:
 
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Interesting.
Idk how capable is her fate manipulation, but Zoro probably wins.

1- He can analyze her entire kit and sword skills, find weaknesses and exploit them (Information Analysis, Analytical Prediction, and Extrasensory Perception).
2- His coo haki allows him to evade or block incoming sneaky or invisible attacks.
3- He has great willpower and endurance, so can keep up in a prolonged fight.
4- Becomes stronger as the battle goes on (Reactive Power Level and Accelerated Development).
5- His main attacks are stronger than hers, and with three sword style + acoa haki, he can just keep the pressure.
 
I am currently leaning towards Zoro taking it, but would prefer to wait for more knowledgeable scalers from both sides.
 
Artoria's profile blows dogshit, so does Servant physiology, don't use them. You want that answer to change? Rework them. From the ground up.
This article is outdated and has missing or incorrect and unreliable information. A revision for it is underway. Please visit the verse's general discussion thread if you want to contribute to this effort.
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DaReaperMan said:
My god, you even got the scaling for Artoria wrong, she's scaling directly to Gawain with the sun down, which is like 974 Gigatons or something stupid like that. In fact ALL servants do right now.
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The only High 6-C value listed on the pages is High 6-C (216.2 Gigatons).

I assume the value you're speaking of got removed
 
Wankbreaker said:
The only High 6-C value listed on the pages is High 6-C (216.2 Gigatons).

I assume the value you're speaking of got removed
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Does that look like it'd be a +, wank?

They're rated at 1/3rd Siegfried's NP AKA 873.376667 Gigatons from a couple quick conversions which are probably wrong. Is that stupid, and wrong? oh yeah no doubt, but it's just one thing wrong with the profiles. Use like... QSH or Gilgamesh or something. Someone without a profile that is comparable in quality to my ability to RP in 2021.

Remember, right now those profiles are scaling Shakespeare physically to Gawain. We really shouldn't be using them unless necessary.
 
Mageman460 said:
So no, Zoro still has no way to hurt a servant. He doesn't magically gain a hax because he has a supernatural ability, that goes against site standards
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Ignoring that Haki allows for NPI and Soul interaction, this was here even before I made the thread calling to nerf the invul.
Mageman460 said:
. Also the Fate profiles are Outdated, so you shouldn't be using them in a matchup.
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Its allowed. not advised, but allowed.
 
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Issues with Energy Equalization (Staff Only)

Wokistan: To summarize, I don't agree with the idea of equalizing powers or resistances afforded by some in verse power. I don't like equalization that much in general, but can at least accept it's existence (though maybe it should be optional like speed equal is?) I am fine with letting...
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Once again, Zoro can not just gain a hax.
 
Mageman460 said:
vsbattles.com

Issues with Energy Equalization (Staff Only)

Wokistan: To summarize, I don't agree with the idea of equalizing powers or resistances afforded by some in verse power. I don't like equalization that much in general, but can at least accept it's existence (though maybe it should be optional like speed equal is?) I am fine with letting...
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Once again, Zoro can not just gain a hax.
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What hax are you speaking of? As of now, you just need an attack amped with a supernatural force, or NPI to harm a servant.
Zoro has both.

The extremely in-verse niche aspect of needing mystery in particular was accepted to be removed.

Even the thread you quote says this:

I am fine with letting different powers interact with one another, and general stuff like resistances to soul manip or being able to see inviable overrides verse specific "only X can Y" as is, but don't think they should be considered the same thing.
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That's not the point. Zoro does not have a way to bypass INVLUNERABILITY. Which is what Servants have.
 
Zoro wins because Saber's profile is stopped in time in 2020. Same goes with every other Nasuverse profile.

You can count my vote on Zoro and anyone you put against a Nasuverse character, and no this is not irony.
 
It will be kinda funny seeing Wank trying to make any battle with any Nasu's profiles that isn't is an insta lose against anyone because absolutely everything is outdated and not usable.

In fact, I'm thinking right now to open a thread and put something like a 8-B character with barely any hax just to prove my point.
 
HigashikataJobin said:
It will be kinda funny seeing Wank trying to make any battle with any Nasu's profiles that isn't is an insta lose against anyone because absolutely everything is outdated and not usable.

In fact, I'm thinking right now to open a thread and put something like a 8-B character with barely any hax just to prove my point.
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do it for the agenda
 
DaReaperMan said:
Almost like when you use profiles so explicitly outdated we scale ******* who should be tier 9 to tier 6 scaling to someone who'd one-shot them, there's a problem
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Wait... but there's a LOT of characters with that same problem. Are you telling me that like 80-90% of the verse scalling is wrong and almost every profile can't use their current tier? This would make match-ups literally impossible.

Oh wait, this is actually true. This is actually the state of the verse right now.
 
HigashikataJobin said:
Wait... but there's a LOT of characters with that same problem. Are you telling me that like 80-90% of the verse scalling is wrong and almost every profile can't use their current tier? This would make match-ups literally impossible.

Oh wait, this is actually true. This is actually the state of the verse right now.
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Literally.

I have an Edison Rework in a sandbox that hasn't been touched for months because the entire scaling chain has to be unfucked before he can be released, and that requires every. single. *******. fate. work. to. be. read.
 
I'm the same sentiment with Reaper, in fact, discovered that the invul garbage thing has been removed made me happy af, but then I realized the current profiles are need to be cleaned up to fit the current standard

Good thing Strym did it so we can discuss that there, otherwise this thread can be locked I think?
 
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