Kaneki vs Garou (0-0-0)

[Farfetchedx]

Kaneki vs Garou​

Rules:

• High 7-C Keys
• Half-Monster Garou and Post-Dragon Kaneki are used
• Speed is equalized
• Starting distance: 50 meters apart
• Fight takes place in an abandoned city
• Victory by death or any form of incapacitation

Kaneki:

• AP & Durability: 609 Kilotons, far higher with Reactive Evolution
• LS: Class G (79,307,787 Metric Tons)

Garou:

• AP & Durability: 607.42 Kilotons, far higher with Reactive Evolution
• LS: Class G (4,039,810 Metric Tons)

One-Eyed King:

The Human Monster:

Inconclusive:

 

[Arkansalter2]

Following.
I want you to know that you created a war between Nik and Kachon so be ready.

 

[Robo432343]

bro what is that garou pic

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

You picked two skill slops and 2 RE AD merchants

 

[DavidTPPM]

Hasn't this already been done recently or am I misremembering

 

[Kachon123]

Garou for reasons

 

[Catbowtie]

Yea this has been done before. Garou slams badly.

 

[Farfetchedx]

I changed their keys. Garou no longer has his busted RE that lets him survive attacks thousands of times stronger.

 

[MrTayman616]

I changed their keys. Garou no longer has his busted RE that lets him survive attacks thousands of times stronger.

Kaneki has High-Mid regen.

 

[Farfetchedx]

Kaneki has High-Mid regen.

Not in this key

 

[MrTayman616]

Not in this key

Oh, you changed his key too, ok.

 

[Catbowtie]

Garou Stomps via skill

 

[NikHelton]

Use Half-Monster Garou and Post-Dragon Kaneki Their RE will be more effective.

 

[LegendariumOfLies]

Following.

 

[Farfetchedx]

Use Half-Monster Garou and Post-Dragon Kaneki Their RE will be more effective.

Bruh
Before I change it back, what will Kaneki's wincon be + how would it different from last time

 

[NikHelton]

Bruh
Before I change it back, what will Kaneki's wincon be + how would it different from last time

-High-mid regen
-His AD now also reaches 7-A
-Negative regen
-Greater range and variety of attacks
-Free form of these attacks

 

[Farfetchedx]

-His AD now also reaches 7-A

His AD should've always been able reach there, since it's based on how much damage he takes. Continuous damage=continuous growth

-Negative regen

From what I understand based on his profile, this is caused by poison manipulation, which Garou resists

-Free form of these attacks

wdym by free form

-High-mid regen
-Greater range and variety of attacks

He had these last time. It won't make a difference

Essentially, they would continuously grow, evolving off of each others attacks(+ regenerating) and not being able to put down the other for good, until Kaneki eventually runs out of stamina.

 

[NikHelton]

His AD should've always been able reach there, since it's based on how much damage he takes. Continuous damage=continuous growth

Previously, Kaneki's AD was limited to Low 7-B. Now it's 7-A, and his AD is three times higher than Garou's.

From what I understand based on his profile, this is caused by poison manipulation, which Garou resists

It has several layers, so it will work on Garou no matter what

wdym by free form

Because the form is entirely up to his imagination. If Garou tries to parry an attack, the kagune will simply wrap around his limbs and form additional arms for grabbing.

He had these last time. It won't make a difference

Essentially, they would continuously grow, evolving off of each others attacks(+ regenerating) and not being able to put down the other for good, until Kaneki eventually runs out of stamina.

Kaneki's attacks are slashing and tearing, and Garou would lose his stamina much faster. After his battle with Darkshine, he was unconscious.

 

[Arkenis]

skill slops

Kaneki and Skill slop in the same vicinity is hilarious

 

[Farfetchedx]

Previously, Kaneki's AD was limited to Low 7-B. Now it's 7-A, and his AD is three times higher than Garou's.

Ad based on damage taken is not limited to a tier. Even now, he should be able to grow pass 6-C as long as he doesn't get one-shot. Also, there's two CRTs that will upgrade half-monster garou to tier 6 if accepted, and would make this a stomp according to this logic.

It has several layers, so it will work on Garou no matter what

Shouldn't that be on the profiles though

After his battle with Darkshine, he was unconscious.

Fair point

 

[NikHelton]

Ad based on damage taken is not limited to a tier. Even now, he should be able to grow pass 6-C as long as he doesn't get one-shot. Also, there's two CRTs that will upgrade half-monster garou to tier 6 if accepted, and would make this a stomp according to this logic.

That's true. Kaneki had a wincon in the last match, but it really came down to Garou becoming 7-A faster than Kaneki could kill him.

Shouldn't that be on the profiles though

I'll get to it after the last CRTs

Fair point

Under current conditions, Kaneki has a much better chance of lasting longer.

 

[Farfetchedx]

Alright, with the notion that they'll continuously grow, I'm gonna change it back to their Half-Monster and Post-Dragon keys.

 

[Kachon123]

What are Kaneki's wincons?

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Kaneki and Skill slop in the same vicinity is hilarious

“Quanxi is more skilled than Maki”

 

[Arkenis]

“Quanxi is more skilled than Maki”

They're both pretty skill-less fighters, Quanxi just does cooler shit.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

So, uhh, can't Garou just use pressure points to disable Kaneki's Kagune and then skill cheese Kaneki and disable him with pressure points as well???

Still following tho (not counting this as a vote)

 

[NikHelton]

So, uhh, can't Garou just use pressure points to disable Kaneki's Kagune

Kagune has no pressure points. It is a flow of cells controlled by the user's thoughts

and then skill cheese Kaneki and disable him with pressure points as well???

Kaneki probably doesn't have pressure points either because he now has a different physiology and his body is made up of kagune

 

[Arkansalter2]

Kaneki probably doesn't have pressure points either because he now has a different physiology and his body is made up of kagune

No... no.
Him nor ghols either have resistance to pressure points.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Kagune has no pressure points. It is a flow of cells controlled by the user's thoughts

Yeah but it's stated to work similar to a muscle

Kaneki probably doesn't have pressure points either because he now has a different physiology and his body is made up of kagune

Pressure points rely on striking weak points within the body so I don't think him having a different physiology just saves him from that

Like granted, his would prob be different than a humans but the point still stands

 

[NikHelton]

No... no.
Him nor ghols either have resistance to pressure points.

We're talking about Post-Dragon.

This guy is capable of thinking and launching attacks even when his body is chewed up and torn apart. It's composed entirely of kagune, and he controls it at the cellular level.

 

[Arkansalter2]

This guy is capable of thinking and launching attacks even when his body is chewed up and torn apart. It's composed entirely of kagune, and he controls it at the cellular level.

Uhh ok? Doesn't grant him a resistance but good to know.

 

[NikHelton]

Yeah but it's stated to work similar to a muscle

Liquid muscles, yes. That's the analogy Shinohara drew. However, the kagune can detach from the body and be controlled remotely by the user. This is not something muscles can do.

Pressure points rely on striking weak points within the body so I don't think him having a different physiology just saves him from that

Like granted, his would prob be different than a humans but the point still stands

As I said above, his Post-Dragon body is essentially a living kagune.
Regular ghouls, of course, have pressure points.

 

[NikHelton]

Uhh ok? Doesn't grant him a resistance but good to know.

The kagune has no pressure points because it is a controlled flow of cells. Kaneki's body is made of kagune. Do you get my drift?

 

[Arkansalter2]

The kagune has no pressure points because it is a controlled flow of cells.

That's not on the profile. Don't do that.

 

[NikHelton]

That's not on the profile. Don't do that.

This is a self-evident thought. Okay, I'll add it to the CRT list.

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

This is a self-evident thought. Okay, I'll add it to the CRT list.

Or just make the crt rn for the match since the grace timer would be 24 hours

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Liquid muscles, yes. That's the analogy Shinohara drew. However, the kagune can detach from the body and be controlled remotely by the user. This is not something muscles can do.

That dosen't correlate to not having any weak points tho

As I said above, his Post-Dragon body is essentially a living kagune.
Regular ghouls, of course, have pressure points.

I'm not contesting the idea of his post dragon key being a living kagune (that much I still remember from tg)

What I'm asking is how Kagune being able to detach from the user correlates to not having weak points

 

[NikHelton]

Or just make the crt rn for the match since the grace timer would be 24 hours

What is crt rn?

 

[NikHelton]

That dosen't correlate to not having any weak points tho

I'm not contesting the idea of his post dragon key being a living kagune (that much I still remember from tg)

The kagune is a homogeneous substance that can freely bend and change shape as the user desires. It's much more like blood, which freely changes its density. Where do the pressure points come from? The kagune has no internal bones, nerves, pain points, or tendons.

What I'm asking is how Kagune being able to detach from the user correlates to not having weak points

Take Sandman. His body is made entirely of sand. Does he have any pressure points?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

The kagune is a homogeneous substance that can freely bend and change shape as the user desires. It's much more like blood, which freely changes its density. Where do the pressure points come from? The kagune has no internal bones, nerves, pain points, or tendons.

Take Sandman. His body is made entirely of sand. Does he have any pressure points?

Mk thats actually a fair point

following for now but leading towards kaneki due to high-mid regen