Star Wars Canon Edition: More Darth Vader stuff + general abilities

[Phsccarvalho]

Hello.

Basically the content in this sandbox.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User:Phsccarvalho/Sandbox3?oldid=9193771

I mean, there's something more controversial that I'm going to bring up directly here instead of the sandbox.

Can Darth Vader resist the lightsaber?

In an old crt by @DaReaperMan, he introduced this concept, unfortunately the crt was never completed. I'd like to revisit this discussion and finish it.

There were times when Darth Vader apparently withstood the heat of the lightsaber (one, two, and three), but there were also times when he was affected (moments one and two). There's also the feat of Luke cutting off Darth Vader's hand, but I think there's an excuse that it was Luke's rage/anger power that caused it, plus it's already accepted that the heat of the lightsaber can intensify with anger.

Another thing is that being submerged in lava overloads the suit's temperature.

So, there are times when the heat affects it, and other times it doesn't; it seems inconsistent. I personally don't have a strong opinion, so I'd like yours.

Edit: If this is accepted, Vader will withstand the 28,000 degrees Celsius accepted lightsaber temperature.

Votes:

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Agree: (3) @LephyrTheRevanchist, @ActuallySpaceMan42, @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless

Neutral: (0)

Disagree: (0)

 

[Pluto321]

everything looks good, except for vader withstooded the heat of lightsaber for that I am netural currently.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Agree to everything but a bit iffy on Lightsaber resistance.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

following

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

What I've seen discussed on other SW forums and such, is that Vader should withstand the lightsaber only in the parts of his suit that are actually shown tanking it, like his shoulder pads on the Bespin duel (1 min mark).

So since the mask very consistently is cut from the lightsabers, on the weaknesses section it should be noted (assuming it gets accepted). Me personally, I am neutral overall, if leaning to agree.

The rest looks fine enough tho

 

[Chariot190]

Ok. But only in the armored parts like Leph mentioned.
Though it should still be noted as a layer of protection, like yeah the mask gets cut, but normally his head would be bisected too, the mask took and stopped the beam going in further. That isnt resistance, but it should be mentioned somewhere. The other bits that do actually tank it tho can get res.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Ok. But only in the armored parts like Leph mentioned.
Though it should still be noted as a layer of protection, like yeah the mask gets cut, but normally his head would be bisected too, the mask took and stopped the beam going in further. That isnt resistance, but it should be mentioned somewhere. The other bits that do actually tank it tho can get res.

That just implies he scales to the at worse limited resistance with the armor?

 

[Chariot190]

That just implies he scales to the at worse limited resistance with the armor?

?
Wdym? The saber still instantly cleaves the mask. The mask don't resist it, it just takes the hit first.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

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Wdym? The saber still instantly cleaves the mask. The mask don't resist it, it just takes the hit first.

Ah ok

I still think he should scale to the Lava feat at minimum, and ish he does survive a lightsaber cleaving throught his body

 

[Chariot190]

Ah ok

I still think he should scale to the Lava feat at minimum,

Lava is like 20x cooler. He can scale to that as a whole but the plasma lv heats would be targeted.

and ish he does survive a lightsaber cleaving throught his body

That's stamina tho if it cleaved through him. Not res, based on the fact it cleaved through him?

 

[Phsccarvalho]

What I've seen discussed on other SW forums and such, is that Vader should withstand the lightsaber only in the parts of his suit that are actually shown tanking it, like his shoulder pads on the Bespin duel (1 min mark).

So since the mask very consistently is cut from the lightsabers, on the weaknesses section it should be noted (assuming it gets accepted). Me personally, I am neutral overall, if leaning to agree.

The rest looks fine enough tho

Ok. But only in the armored parts like Leph mentioned.
Though it should still be noted as a layer of protection, like yeah the mask gets cut, but normally his head would be bisected too, the mask took and stopped the beam going in further. That isnt resistance, but it should be mentioned somewhere. The other bits that do actually tank it tho can get res.

Wntai would be good with "With the exception of the helmet, the rest of the suit is resistant to lightsabers." or "Most of the suit is resistant to lightsabers with the exception of the helmet and less armored parts." I'm not sure what the best phrase would be, any suggestions?

 

[Chariot190]

Wntai would be good with "With the exception of the helmet, the rest of the suit is resistant to lightsabers." or "Most of the suit is resistant to lightsabers with the exception of the helmet and less armored parts." I'm not sure what the best phrase would be, any suggestions?

Idk, what parts have shown it? Off memory, the helmet and the fabric-looking parts aren't. So I'd say something like "The armored parts of the suit-"
with the exception of the helmet which simply acts as a one-time layer of protection.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Idk, what parts have shown it? Off memory, the helmet and the fabric-looking parts aren't. So I'd say something like "The armored parts of the suit-"
with the exception of the helmet which simply acts as a one-time layer of protection.

(one, two, and three)

the Bespin duel (1 min mark).

The third one I mentioned is the most "direct." It's a clean lightsaber strike that would normally cut anything in half, but it only caused minor burns to Vader's suit.

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@Chariot190
I remember that back in the Reaper CRT era, you agreed with the use of scripted scenes in gameplay. I don't know what your opinion is now.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I remember that back in the Reaper CRT era, you agreed with the use of scripted scenes in gameplay. I don't know what your opinion is now.

???? I never commented on that thread tho?

And I already stated my opinion.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

???? I never commented on that thread tho?

And I already stated my opinion.

I was talking about Chariot. He had commented on Reaper's CRT.

I should have commented before citing your post; it made it seem like I was talking to you.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

I was talking about Chariot. He had commented on Reaper's CRT.

I should have commented before citing your post; it made it seem like I was talking to you.

Yeh, it seemed those comments were directed at me ayy

But fair

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

burp

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Yeh, it seemed those comments were directed at me ayy

But fair

Could you ping someone?

You'd have a problem if the justification was "Most of Darth Vader's suit, especially the armored parts, appear to be resistant to lightsabers." Then I could add a note saying that other parts, like the helmet, aren't as resistant as the helmet.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

You'd have a problem if the justification was "Most of Darth Vader's suit, especially the armored parts, appear to be resistant to lightsabers." Then I could add a note saying that other parts, like the helmet, aren't as resistant as the helmet.

That would be fine yeah. The reason I personally don't go fully into agreement is entirely my own personal thingy, so it shouldn't bleed into my staff duties.. The feats are there, so we should note them.

@FinePoint @DarkDragonMedeus @ActuallySpaceMan42 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @Firestorm808 I would greatly appreciate your evaluation in this thread.

 

[ActuallySpaceMan42]

This all seems good, and I like Lephyr's idea with the armor.

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

Thank you. I believe this can be applied then.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Thank you. I believe this can be applied then.

I'll do it later. I'm sleepy and studying for a test.

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

This all seems good, and I like Lephyr's idea with the armor.

Ditto.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

That would be fine yeah. The reason I personally don't go fully into agreement is entirely my own personal thingy, so it shouldn't bleed into my staff duties.. The feats are there, so we should note them.

@FinePoint @DarkDragonMedeus @ActuallySpaceMan42 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @Firestorm808 I would greatly appreciate your evaluation in this thread.

This all seems good, and I like Lephyr's idea with the armor.

Ditto.

CRT applied, this can be closed.

Also, I think the Force page should be closed.