The Boys Revisions and Upgrades

[Just_Butchering]

Long post on some additions/revisions that I thought were worth looking at for The Boys verse.

Spoiler: 9-A to 8-C Upgrade

We currently have most of The Boys' supes scaling at "Small Building level, possibly Building level", but I think there's enough to have them at plain "Building level".
First, we have Kimiko just getting "pissed off" from Lamplighter's fire blast, which an statement M.M. made shortly after witnessing said feat. And we have Homelander stating that Maeve is the second most powerful supe on a deleted scene. However, while it is on a deleted scene, it doesn't contradict anything on the show itself, and it has other canonical staements that hold similar weight, like Maeve being the strongest alumni from Godolkin University.

Additionally, there's this scene from The Boys' Season 1, Episode 8:

Stillwell: What is Lockheed Martin's number one product?

Singer: Sorry?

Stillwell: Its top seller.
You should know this, you served on their board of directors.

Singer: The Patriot missile.

Stillwell: Correct
Northrop?

Singer: B-2 Stealth.

Stillwell: General Dynamics?

Singer: Tomahawk and the M1 Abrams.

Stillwell: Billions of dollars of bleeding-edge hardware.
Do you know what all of that is as of today?
A worthless pile of shit.
Because Naqib and other super terrorists like him can flick away that junk like flicking a flea.
So it doesn't matter where heroes really come from.
Frankly, it doesn't even matter how the enemy got the Compound V.
What matters is they've got it.
It is a whole new world now. And there is only one company that has the product to fight back. My company. My product.

The B-2's typical explosives vary from 0.1 to 0.45 Tons, while destroying an M1 Abrams is calculated at 0.59 Tons. Noir withstood Naqib's explosion and killed him, with Naqib being able to wtihstand his own explosions.

Also also, we have a certain level of donwscaling from the top tiers, that could support the Building level rating more so than the Small Building one.

• Stormfront shoving Homelander and sending hin flying, withstanding a prolonged ray of heat vision, claiming she "doesn't break easy" and this whole sequence of them shoving and hitting each other during c o i t u s.
• Noir running away was part of the reason Homelander wasn't sure he could handle Soldier Boy. And speaking of Noir and Soldier Boy, as explained on Noir's profile, while the cartoon reenactment of the fight is exaggerated, it holds a level of truth, and therefore Noir and the rest of payback could somewhat fight Soldier Boy, even if briefly.
• We also have Hughie shoving Homelander away from Butcher, helping restrain one of his arms and taking hits from Soldier Boy.

In summary, I think an straight listing of Building level (even "at least" could be added, since they would upscale from Lamplighter and Naqib) should be possible.

Spoiler: Bulletproof Supes' Durability

The idea is that supes that are bulletproof (and kinda also cut-proof) should have a "far higher against piercing and cutting attacks/damage" alongside their normal physical durability.

This started based on how FOX's Logan's claws scale to 9-A via piercing Deadpool.
In The Boys, bullets consistently pierce the likes of Kimiko (like here, here and here) and Black Noir (here and here). Also, Noir's weapons can cut and pierce Kimiko as seen during their fight, and also cut himself.

So, the logic would be something like this:

• Despite using his weapons 99.99% of the time, Noir never uses them when fighting Starlight, and resort to fight her and try to kill her using only his physical strenght. Is likely Noir knew Starlight was bulletproof and cut resistant. Also, it seems he decapitated Naqib with raw force rather than with a weapon, which would be consistent since Naqib is bulletproof.
• While the .50 caliber bullet is strong enough to knock Starlight down and left her wincing in pain, it still failed to pierce her.

In spite of Starlight general durability being the same as Kimiko's (for example, Stormfront's attacks hurt them about the same), against this types of damage, she is far superior, even though this attacks are in the same tier as she is (hence, the suggested "far higher").

On a side note, I guess something similar to the L4D's survivors' weapons for those in this verse that use them, and add that their can harm 8-C level characters with guns.

Spoiler: Starlight's and Stormfront's flight and attack speed

Starlight's and Stormfront's flight speed should scale to their attack speed, as they use their respective powers to fly. None has reacted to Stormfront' attacks, so it's not an inconsistency, while for Starlight only Soldier Boy and A-Train reacted to hers, and they already scale to greater speeds (Although, A-Train seemed to fail to outspeed this last two blasts, with them seemingly moving at somewhat comparable speeds to him, so maybe a "likely higher" could be added for her?).

Spoiler: Supe Physiology

So, the Amazon's X-ray trivia and Gen V have both added some info into the general physiology of supes, even when the individuals can be vastly different.
In terms of abilities, we have had a few of them explained through the two shows:

• Enhanced Hearing: Supes have a wider range of hearing
• Regeneration (Low): Supes heal faster than regular humans
• Reactive Evolution (Under Stress): Under the right amount of pressure, supes can "level-up" and become more powerful
• Immortality (Type 1) (Exclusive to V-One users): This supes don't age (also stated here)

However, the good comes with the bad, and we have had some statements for supes weaknesses, though more subtlely in some cases:

• High-frequency sounds: Supes experience extreme pain when expose to high-frequency sounds, effectively neutralizing them, something studied by Godolkin himself
• Anesthetics: Now this is one of those subtle ones I mentioned, while we have seen The Boys use this quite a few times, we didn't really take it as a general weakness of supes per say, but apparently Godolkin has studied it's effects on V users and apparently propofol also has 'funny effects' when interacting with compound V
• Electricity: Ok so, maybe this isn't neccesarily a weakness (at least not one specific to supes), since if anything this is a feat of (albeit limited) resistance to electricity, since they get constanly hit with these taser/taser rods (that can kill two men in less than four seconds) and be relatively fine after. They also use these shock collars on them too. They even had electrified floors in The Woods (or maybe just sam's room?)

Spoiler: Starlight's and Soldier Boy's variable tier

Finally, I wanted to add a "Varies" tier for Starlight's and Soldier Boy's blasts.

• Starlight can adjust the power of her blasts, such as concentrating it on an smaller scale to cauterize an injure instead of blasting Hughie away. Her powers also depend on how electricity she has access to, being powerless without any source, and reaching enough power to blast Soldier Boy with sufficent electricity.
• Soldier Boy's radiation blasts vary depeding on his charge up time (and maybe physical state too). A few seconds charge after waking up is enough to blast Kimiko through a wall. This charge was about the same time, but since soldier Boy was more awake, the effect was mayor. A longer charge caused a beam that destroyed most of the herogasm mansion. In order to create an explosion powerful enough to kill Homelander, he takes considerably longer to charge his attack. Finally, for an explosion that was going to "kill everyone" he takes the longest time, though it's possible this is due to the novichok he inhaled, since the resulting explosion failed to kill Maeve.

 

[ByArrow]

Agree

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Makes sense to me.

 

[Cropfist]

And we have Homelander stating that Maeve is the second most powerful supe on a deleted scene. However, while it is on a deleted scene, it doesn't contradict anything on the show itself, and it has other canonical staements that hold similar weight, like Maeve being the strongest alumni from Godolkin University.

It contradicts the existence of soldier boy.

In spite of Starlight general durability being the same as Kimiko's (for example, Stormfront's attacks hurt them about the same), against this types of damage, she is far superior, even though this attacks are in the same tier as she is (hence, the suggested "far higher").

Circular scaling when Starlight did better against Noir and SB than the Female, inconsistent writing is not a resistance feat.

while for Starlight only Soldier Boy and A-Train reacted to hers

Stormfront side-stepped a beam during the girl power fight.

Starlight can adjust the power of her blasts, such as concentrating it on an smaller scale to cauterize an injure instead of blasting Hughie away. Her powers also depend on how electricity she has access to, being powerless without any source, and reaching enough power to blast Soldier Boy with sufficent electricity.

Varied tiers are for powers that fluctuate uncontrollably, not willingly restraining the amount used, her blasts are consistently wall-small building regardless of electrical charge as she blasted the metal door in season 2 with just a ceiling light.

 

[Kaydee1648]

looks simple enough

 

[Just_Butchering]

It contradicts the existence of soldier boy.

It doesn't since Homelander was talking about the present, not the dead Soldier Boy, and also he doesn't know all the supes in the world, but he does know the likes of Lamplighter and the rest of the Seven to make this assessment.

Circular scaling when Starlight did better against Noir and SB than the Female, inconsistent writing is not a resistance feat.

I don't see how it's circular scaling or inconsistent writing?
Starlight did better only offensively thanks to her light powers, otherwise she got just as beaten around as Kimiko. Besides, against Stormfront, her attacks hurt them equally. But Starlight was just used as an example of a bulletproof supe getting hurt by attacks of a similar tier to that of a non-bulletproof supe.

Varied tiers are for powers that fluctuate uncontrollably, not willingly restraining the amount used, her blasts are consistently wall-small building regardless of electrical charge as she blasted the metal door in season 2 with just a ceiling light.

I thought conscious restrains counted too, my bad. But then the Soldier Boy one does?

Also what are your thoughts on the rest of the suggestions?

Stormfront side-stepped a beam during the girl power fight.

I'll check this one in a bit and edit the comment.

EDIT: Unless I'm not seeing well, I think she started to dodge just before the blast, likely reacting to Starlight's arm rather than her blast, but maybe checking it frame-by-frame would help.

 

[Dalesean027]

We currently have most of The Boys' supes scaling at "Small Building level, possibly Building level", but I think there's enough to have them at plain "Building level".
First, we have Kimiko just getting "pissed off" from Lamplighter's fire blast, which an statement M.M. made shortly after witnessing said feat.

While there could be some of level of truth from MM here he is still ultimately just talking to try and save his ass, he's not familiar enough to know the specific temp resistances of Kimiko and it ain't like they've exactly been running test to find out, for all purposes its a bluff even if an informed one so it fits perfectly fine with possibly not an outright building level rating.

And we have Homelander stating that Maeve is the second most powerful supe on a deleted scene. However, while it is on a deleted scene, it doesn't contradict anything on the show itself, and it has other canonical staements that hold similar weight, like Maeve being the strongest alumni from Godolkin University.

There is no UES in the boys and lamplighter himself doesn't even scale to his own full output so assuming she scales above his ability is kinda a possibly sorta thing, the dude is like average human in durability and ability so for all purposes Maeve is generally stronger than him by far and pound for pound an all around more effective supe in ability and versatility so yeah she'd be considered stronger generally.

The B-2's typical explosives vary from 0.1 to 0.45 Tons, while destroying an M1 Abrams is calculated at 0.59 Tons. Noir withstood Naqib's explosion and killed him, with Naqib being able to wtihstand his own explosions.

The quote pertaining to this section is cut off and not entirely visible but regardless none of these work for outright direct scaling simply because you'd have to account for inverse square law which would tank these below building level even if they are like 0.5m away from the epicenter of the blast so unless you can prove they were basically hugging the explosive itself with no distance at all all between them none of this supports 8-C and just falls into 9-A feats math wise.

Stormfront shoving Homelander and sending hin flying, withstanding a prolonged ray of heat vision, claiming she "doesn't break easy" and this whole sequence of them shoving and hitting each other during c o i t u s.

This only works if you're arguing she's High 8-C, doesn't support 8-C.

Noir running away was part of the reason Homelander wasn't sure he could handle Soldier Boy. And speaking of Noir and Soldier Boy, as explained on Noir's profile, while the cartoon reenactment of the fight is exaggerated, it holds a level of truth, and therefore Noir and the rest of payback could somewhat fight Soldier Boy, even if briefly.

Same problem here, unless you are arguing High 8-C then this doesn't support 8-C

Starlight's and Stormfront's flight speed should scale to their attack speed, as they use their respective powers to fly. None has reacted to Stormfront' attacks, so it's not an inconsistency, while for Starlight only Soldier Boy and A-Train reacted to hers, and they already scale to greater speeds (Although, A-Train seemed to fail to outspeed this last two blasts, with them seemingly moving at somewhat comparable speeds to him, so maybe a "likely higher" could be added for her?).

yeah that's not how that works just because they can both respectively use their abilities in ways to allow them to fly doesn't default their attack speed to to scale to their flight speed when its an entirely different application of their abilities than how they use them to attack in form and function.

Fairly straightforward, as both Soldier Boy and Stormfront are stated to "not age a single day" since they took V and that they "don't get old".

this works

Starlight can adjust the power of her blasts, such as concentrating it on an smaller scale to cauterize an injure instead of blasting Hughie away.

this doesn't work as justification for varies that's just having good control of your powers, Goku doesn't suddenly get varies up to 2-C because he can hold back enough to not kill someone or seriously maim them with his powers.

Her powers also depend on how electricity she has access to, being powerless without any source, and reaching enough power to blast Soldier Boy with sufficent electricity.

this however does work as her max power is dependent on how much electricity she has access too

Soldier Boy's radiation blasts vary depeding on his charge up time (and maybe physical state too). A few seconds charge after waking up is enough to blast Kimiko through a wall. This charge was about the same time, but since soldier Boy was more awake, the effect was mayor. A longer charge caused a beam that destroyed most of the herogasm mansion. In order to create an explosion powerful enough to kill Homelander, he takes considerably longer to charge his attack. Finally, for an explosion that was going to "kill everyone" he takes the longest time, though it's possible this is due to the novichok he inhaled, since the resulting explosion failed to kill Maeve.

this works

 

[Cropfist]

But then the Soldier Boy one does?

The only wall level blast was in his groggy state immediately after awakening, the next one shortly after melted a condominium, so those also seem to stay within a certain level consistent with the Herogasm and Vought Tower incidents.

 

[GraveDigger84]

I don't think the Naqib statement holds too much weight given that his on screen explosion was calced to way less. Still agree with the changes though for now

 

[Just_Butchering]

for all purposes its a bluff even if an informed one so it fits perfectly fine with possibly not an outright building level rating.

I guess that's fair.

There is no UES in the boys and lamplighter himself doesn't even scale to his own full output so assuming she scales above his ability is kinda a possibly sorta thing, the dude is like average human in durability and ability so for all purposes Maeve is generally stronger than him by far and pound for pound an all around more effective supe in ability and versatility so yeah she'd be considered stronger generally.

I don't the intention of the statement was "we are the most powerful person in the world, but only physically, Lamplighter's fire blast is a no-no", but rather, Maeve is that, the second most powerful.

The quote pertaining to this section is cut off and not entirely visible but regardless none of these work for outright direct scaling simply because you'd have to account for inverse square law which would tank these below building level even if they are like 0.5m away from the epicenter of the blast so unless you can prove they were basically hugging the explosive itself with no distance at all all between them none of this supports 8-C and just falls into 9-A feats math wise.

Because she is stating this, not that it actually happened. Madelyn was talking to the Secretary of Defense, Robert Singer. While some bluffing could potentially be involved, Singer saw Naqib's footage, and agreed with Madelyn about her claims of the power of the supr terrorists and how the military would struggle with the mentioned weaponry.

That's why I brought those, as they claim that the terrorists see such feats as "junk" and they can "flickt then like fleas".

This only works if you're arguing she's High 8-C, doesn't support 8-C.

Same problem here, unless you are arguing High 8-C then this doesn't support 8-C

Thought this supported downscaling (at most High 8-C when(?)

yeah that's not how that works just because they can both respectively use their abilities in ways to allow them to fly doesn't default their attack speed to to scale to their flight speed when its an entirely different application of their abilities than how they use them to attack in form and function.

Hmm, I think I get it.
Then how about I edit then and mention the A-Train vs Starlight fight, plus scale Stormfront to the speed of electricity, since it also seems consistent with her flight.

this works

this however does work as her max power is dependent on how much electricity she has access too

this works

Thanks .

 

[Dalesean027]

Because she is stating this, not that it actually happened. Madelyn was talking to the Secretary of Defense, Robert Singer. While some bluffing could potentially be involved, Singer saw Naqib's footage, and agreed with Madelyn about her claims of the power of the supr terrorists and how the military would struggle with the mentioned weaponry.

That's why I brought those, as they claim that the terrorists see such feats as "junk" and they can "flickt then like fleas".

Well yeah a 9-A isn't going to be killed by an 8-C explosion even if they are like 1~2m away from the epicenter since ISL would greatly tank the amount of the total yield they'd he bit with so yeah unless the military is doing a pinpoint precision hit exactly dirctly on the body of the supe's torso and no where else then like it doesn't matter

plus scale Stormfront to the speed of electricity,

I mean yeah she shoots electric blast so thats better for her attack speed

 

[Just_Butchering]

Well yeah a 9-A isn't going to be killed by an 8-C explosion even if they are like 1~2m away from the epicenter since ISL would greatly tank the amount of the total yield they'd he bit with so yeah unless the military is doing a pinpoint precision hit exactly dirctly on the body of the supe's torso and no where else then like it doesn't matter

I think if the statement is "X can withstand an bomb" it's usually taken at face value, since without seeing the feat, it's difficult to assume ISL.

However, the quote isn't necessarily about that. It starts with Madelyn explicitly calling this weapons as "products" and ends with her saying that only her company has the "products" to fight back, calling the weapons "worthless pile of sh*t".
If anything this is a more straightforward "supes > mentioned weapons".

I mean yeah she shoots electric blast so thats better for her attack speed

Great.

 

[Just_Butchering]

Bump
Plus, we need to acknowledge this from Gen V S2E6

Spoiler

Edgar says that Homelander has the power of a neutron bomb.

 

[Dalesean027]

Bump
Plus, we need to acknowledge this from Gen V S2E6

Spoiler

Edgar says that Homelander has the power of a neutron bomb.

this should be addressed in another CRT but the maximum yield for a neutron bomb is 10 kilotons but otherwise the average one is only 1 kiloton, they're really only good for their much higher radiation they spread rather than traditional bombs, probably good for a possibly or likely rating tho if it IS really valid but I doubt it since they never had access to military weaponry to even test a neutron bomb

 

[ByArrow]

doubt it since they never had access to military weaponry to even test a neutron bomb

They don't need to test the neutron bomb for the statement to be valid. The neutron bomb's power is already evident, and since Homelander was created by them and they tested his power even when he was just a cell, the statement should be valid.

 

[Just_Butchering]

this should be addressed in another CRT but the maximum yield for a neutron bomb is 10 kilotons but otherwise the average one is only 1 kiloton, they're really only good for their much higher radiation they spread rather than traditional bombs, probably good for a possibly or likely rating tho if it IS really valid but I doubt it since they never had access to military weaponry to even test a neutron bomb

I mean, Edgar is the former CEO and a smart fella himself, doubt he would specifically say Neutron bomb instead of atomic or anything else just because

 

[Baken384]

Neutron Bomb… LS Meal is back on the table

 

[Hellbeast]

It contradicts the existence of soldier boy.

It really doesn’t since everyone thought Soldier Boy was dead at the time.

Meaning, yes, Maeve would be the second strongest person on Earth. And he’ll, I’d argue she did more damage to Homelander then Ben did so that’s even less contradiction.

Stormfront side-stepped a beam during the girl power fight.

Good catch, that is something to note

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I mean, Edgar is the former CEO and a smart fella himself, doubt he would specifically say Neutron bomb instead of atomic or anything else just because

It seems to lend more credence than Butcher saying "H-Bomb" offhand and is less vague than Stillwell's statement from Season 1. Is there any reason to not give Homelander a concrete rating?

 

[Lonkitt]

It seems to lend more credence than Butcher saying "H-Bomb" offhand and is less vague than Stillwell's statement from Season 1. Is there any reason to not give Homelander a concrete rating?

Honestly, I'm always gonna advocate that nuclear Homelander is absolutely a no go for multiple reasons:

• Stillwell was speaking out of fear. She wasn't much of a reliable source in that instance. I also just think Stillwell is....kinda unreliable in general
• Given the sociopolitical nature of The Boys, I HEAVILY DOUBT that Vaught could just...throw a nuke at Homelander and it just goes unnoticed. Not even Vaught's that good. Hell, if a nuke was launched at him, that's probably be a major plot point in the show. It just doesn't make sense that they'd pull this off NGL
• If Homelander could be incapacitated by this, I heavily doubt he shrugged off a nuke and has the power of a neutron bomb. Hell, Kenji wasn't even on Homelander's level and he took him out for a good while

I think this is a case where feats are a lot more reliable than statements

 

[Pyro9278]

We don't know what context this statement may be in, but it's definitely pretty brazen when Edgar says he has the "power" of a Neutron Bomb. The statement is there, it just needs to be consistent (the L7C baseline is fine but that's IMO)

 

[Rex_Eckles]

If Homelander could be incapacitated by this, I heavily doubt he shrugged off a nuke and has the power of a neuron bomb. Hell, Kenji wasn't even on Homelander's level and he took him out for a good while

That feat would contradict where he currently scales now. That’s not how anti feats work.

 

[Lonkitt]

That feat would contradict where he currently scales now. That’s not how anti feats work.

Mayhaps. But it's not as if neutron bomb Homelander is super duper consistent and reliable compared to Tier 8, which is far more consistent for not only Homelander but Amazon's The Boys verse in general

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Mayhaps. But it's not as if neutron bomb Homelander is super duper consistent and reliable compared to Tier 8, which is far more consistent for not only Homelander but Amazon's The Boys verse in general

The main problem with Homelander is that we know he upscales pretty much every showing in the verse and we rarely get to see him going "all out". Tier 8 isn't really a limiting factor here.

 

[Spinoirr]

Mayhaps. But it's not as if neutron bomb Homelander is super duper consistent and reliable compared to Tier 8, which is far more consistent for not only Homelander but Amazon's The Boys verse in general

I mean it's clear the narrative is saying he's low 7-C, but the show doesn't show It because budget

Who Knows, maybe we'll see Homelander make due on his threats and destroy skyscrapers in New York (a low 7-C feat)

 

[Lonkitt]

The main problem with Homelander is that we know he upscales pretty much every showing in the verse and we rarely get to see him going "all out". Tier 8 isn't really a limiting factor here.

I'd hardly label Homelander as a "Holdsback-Man". In more recent seasons, he's actually been more prone to go all out, as seen in battles against Soldier Boy, as well as The Boys members using Temp-V

He's not like Saitama early into OPM where we only have the vaguest idea of how strong he could be. Homelander's shown off what he's like going all out a few times at this point and it ain't that crazy

 

[Lonkitt]

I mean it's clear the narrative is saying he's low 7-C, but the show doesn't show It because budget

I wouldn't say that's clear at all. The show isn't constantly bombarding us with evidence of that. Two vague feats possibly relating to nukes isn't "clear" at all

 

[Rex_Eckles]

I'd hardly label Homelander as a "Holdsback-Man". In more recent seasons, he's actually been more prone to go all out, as seen in battles against Soldier Boy, as well as The Boys members using Temp-V

He's not like Saitama early into OPM where we only have the vaguest idea of how strong he could be. Homelander's shown off what he's like going all out a few times at this point and it ain't that crazy

I suppose there's that, though the main points of scaling for those guys is fighting Homelander.

 

[Lonkitt]

I suppose there's that, though the main points of scaling for those guys is fighting Homelander.

But even then, in those fights (as well as the one against Maeve after her training), he's not doing anything all that crazy feat wise

I wouldn't put all my eggs in the "vaguely maybe possibly kinda Tier 7" basket rn

 

[Dalesean027]

Im with Lonkitt bere but regardless yall need to stop derailing, thats for another CRT

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Im with Lonkitt bere but regardless yall need to stop derailing, thats for another CRT

Sorry.

 

[Hellbeast]

Honestly, I'm always gonna advocate that nuclear Homelander is absolutely a no go for multiple reasons:

• Stillwell was speaking out of fear. She wasn't much of a reliable source in that instance. I also just think Stillwell is....kinda unreliable in general
• Given the sociopolitical nature of The Boys, I HEAVILY DOUBT that Vaught could just...throw a nuke at Homelander and it just goes unnoticed. Not even Vaught's that good. Hell, if a nuke was launched at him, that's probably be a major plot point in the show. It just doesn't make sense that they'd pull this off NGL
• If Homelander could be incapacitated by this, I heavily doubt he shrugged off a nuke and has the power of a neutron bomb. Hell, Kenji wasn't even on Homelander's level and he took him out for a good while

I think this is a case where feats are a lot more reliable than statements

Also we know high radiation can burn V out of your system

 

[Apex_Predator_GX]

OP looks good.

 

[Just_Butchering]

Spoiler: Gen V S02E08

Doug said that the compound V that Godolkin took was the same as Soldier Boy and Stormfront (Called "V-One") and that thanks to that he (explicitly) "doesn't age". So yeah, we have Type 1 Immortals in The Boys.

 

[Hellbeast]

Spoiler: Gen V S02E08

Doug said that the compound V that Godolkin took was the same as Soldier Boy and Stormfront (Called "V-One") and that thanks to that he (explicitly) "doesn't age". So yeah, we have Type 1 Immortals in The Boys.

Hughie also said this in Season 3 about Soldier Boy not ageing like Stormfront

 

[Just_Butchering]

Hughie also said this in Season 3 about Soldier Boy not ageing like Stormfront

Yeah, but I meant that we got further confirmation from someone with greater knowledge from V.

Spoiler

Still a work in progress, but I'm making a Cipher/Godolkin profile

 

[Qawsedf234]

Spoiler: Gen V S02E08

Doug said that the compound V that Godolkin took was the same as Soldier Boy and Stormfront (Called "V-One") and that thanks to that he (explicitly) "doesn't age". So yeah, we have Type 1 Immortals in The Boys.

Spoiler

That is Longevity and not Immortality. Immortality requires evidence that they physically never die of aging, even after a theoretical infinite time span.

 

[ByArrow]

Spoiler

That is Longevity and not Immortality. Immortality requires evidence that they physically never die of aging, even after a theoretical infinite time span.

Spoiler

When you don't age, you can't die from aging.

 

[Just_Butchering]

Spoiler

That is Longevity and not Immortality. Immortality requires evidence that they physically never die of aging, even after a theoretical infinite time span.

Spoiler

From the Immortality page (Type 1)

"To clarify, this type of immortality can include both those who do not age at all, and those who still grow old, but will never die of old age."

 

[Qawsedf234]

Spoiler

From the Immortality page (Type 1)

Spoiler

You also have the following sentence:

However, in the case of the latter, it should be made clear that this is not just Longevity, as characters with that ability will eventually die of old age, as opposed to Eternal Life, for which dying of old age is not possible.

A character staying it looks like they haven't aged isn't necessarily the same as them being biologically immortal.