Self-loathing be like (The Real World AppleMaker vs VSBW AppleMaker) (1-6-0)

[AppleMaker]

Don't worry, round 12 of my tournament is coming soon

But anyways, here are the rules:

• VSBW AppleMaker starts with 0 apples
• TRW AppleMaker have access to firecrackers (I'm wearing a backpack) and Scooter
• Both have prior knowledge of each other's hax, abilities and weapons
• TRW AppleMaker is 10-A with 9-C durability, Athletic LS and Speed and Below Average stamina
• VSBW AppleMaker's 7-C key is restricted
• Battle takes place in some random empty Chuck E. Cheese and starting distance is 10 meters
• Speed is not equalized

AppleMaker who makes VSBW matches: 1 (@AppleMaker)

AppleMaker who actually makes apples: 6 (@Mythic381); (@Lloydblitzed); (@Kachon123); (@Rayfire); (@MannyQ361); (@Shadowslash125)

I accept myself and adding "multiple selves" to their profiles (incon):

 

[AppleMaker]

I hope this match is fair

 

[Mythic381]

To start, I don't think TRW Applemaker would use fireworks or firecrackers in a closed area.

TRW Applemaker has the advantages of being physically stronger, a scooter (since VSBW Applemaker doesn't seem to have it in the rules) which could be used to crash into VSBW Applemaker, resistance to fear manipulation and their rage power/statistics amplification which would make them stronger than they already are compared to VSBW Applemaker

VSBW Applemaker has the advantage of paralysis inducement, and madness manipulation, since they can create apples it will be help them regenerate hits and potentially be used to be thrown at TRW Applemaker, and with how fast they can throw 1 apple, it will do a lot of damage (throwing an apple at that speed should be calculated tbh.)

Anyways, with the hax difference, I can see VSBW Applemaker outhaxing easily and spamming apples, which would logically make TRW Applemaker more mad, but with VSBW Applemaker's regeneration, the physical difference wouldn't matter much, and the paralysis inducement/madness manipulation will come to defeat TRW Applemaker.

VSBW Applemaker FRA.

 

[AppleMaker]

VSBW Applemaker has the advantage of paralysis inducement, and madness manipulation

The thing is - it could be avoided if you close your ears and don't hear his horrendous powerscaling takes, which TRW AppleMaker can easily do. But if he had no prior knowledge about that - VSBW AppleMaker would just hax stomp him, since his hax is layered

(throwing an apple at that speed should be calculated tbh.)

It is calculated, just I was too lazy to make blog about it, so I just written it in attack potency section

 

[AppleMaker]

To start, I don't think TRW Applemaker would use fireworks or firecrackers in a closed area.

I already fought with 39 the Bunny, and battle took place in his pizzeria, so I could use them, but most likely I'll either start with cqc or try to step back and throw firecrackers at VSBW AppleMaker

 

[Mythic381]

The thing is - it could be avoided if you close your ears and don't hear his horrendous powerscaling takes, which TRW AppleMaker can easily do. But if he had no prior knowledge about that - VSBW AppleMaker would just hax stomp him, since his hax is layered

To be fair VSBW AppleMaker can throw apples at TRW AppleMaker while shouting their horrendous powerscaling takes (that sounds so cursed to say) which would make TRW AppleMaker go insane on it's own.

It is calculated, just I was too lazy to make blog about it, so I just written it in attack potency section

Alright.

I already fought with 39 the Bunny, and battle took place in his pizzeria, so I could use them, but most likely I'll either start with cqc or try to step back and throw firecrackers at VSBW AppleMaker

Kind of a bad idea to use it in a closed place, it would light most things on fire, cause smoke, property damage, etc, which I'd say would harm both, not just VSBW AppleMaker, and wouldn't VSBW AppleMaker be able to extinguish the fire with their "apple juice manipulation" anyways?

 

[AppleMaker]

wouldn't VSBW AppleMaker be able to extinguish the fire with their "apple juice manipulation" anyways?

I mean, if he finds it somewhere or crushes some apples to do that, anyways it kinda distracts him from directly attacking me

 

[AppleMaker]

Gonna vote for TRW AppleMaker (aka myself), since I potentially could evade some of VSBW AppleMaker attacks by hiding behind doors, tables, walls and etc, then throw firecrackers or just keep running away from him until he just faints (lower stamina gg). Not to mention that in battle with 39 I already avoided all explosions and avoided harming myself with them. His throwing speed would be the hardest thing to overcome, since it would basically one-shot me or give me some injuries, and since he's a bit dumber - I could resort to ambushing and throwing firecrackers at him without him noticing (no enhanced senses?), his hax would also give me some troubles, but I guess it's still manageable to avoid (if I pluck my ear with clothes, fingers or apples that he dropped)

 

[AppleMaker]

Also what do you think of icons I made for them and that matchup in general?

 

[Mythic381]

Also what do you think of icons I made for them and that matchup in general?

They're

 

[AppleMaker]

Ngl, I want to make some matchups with VSBW AppleMaker. For example put him against Alastor and mock him for being downgraded from low 7-C

 

[AppleMaker]

Gonna vote for TRW AppleMaker (aka myself), since I potentially could evade some of VSBW AppleMaker attacks by hiding behind doors, tables, walls and etc, then throw firecrackers or just keep running away from him until he just faints (lower stamina gg). Not to mention that in battle with 39 I already avoided all explosions and avoided harming myself with them. His throwing speed would be the hardest thing to overcome, since it would basically one-shot me or give me some injuries, and since he's a bit dumber - I could resort to ambushing and throwing firecrackers at him without him noticing (no enhanced senses?), his hax would also give me some troubles, but I guess it's still manageable to avoid (if I pluck my ear with clothes, fingers or apples that he dropped)

That's only one of wincons mid-battle, but since TRW AppleMaker have enough skill to avoid harming himself with explosions - he also could immediately start with firecrackers that could potentially end this fight at the beginning (since VSBW AppleMaker needs to spawn his apples to attack me)

 

[Mythic381]

Gonna vote for TRW AppleMaker (aka myself), since I potentially could evade some of VSBW AppleMaker attacks by hiding behind doors, tables, walls and etc,

Pretty sure an Apple thrown at these speeds would easily make a hole through them.

then throw firecrackers or just keep running away from him until he just faints (lower stamina gg).

Considering prior knowledge, I don't think they'd try to chase them a lot, and would rather just throw apples.

Not to mention that in battle with 39 I already avoided all explosions and avoided harming myself with them.

How'd you avoid the place literally burning down though?

His throwing speed would be the hardest thing to overcome, since it would basically one-shot me or give me some injuries, and since he's a bit dumber - I could resort to ambushing and throwing firecrackers at him without him noticing (no enhanced senses?)

With prior knowledge I hardly think that would work, also healing would pretty much counter that.

his hax would also give me some troubles, but I guess it's still manageable to avoid (if I pluck my ear with clothes, fingers or apples that he dropped)

Doing that would leave you so vulnerable and allow him to throw apples at you.

Tbh you pretty much have no counters for VSBW AppleMaker's apples.

 

[AppleMaker]

Pretty sure an Apple thrown at these speeds would easily make a hole through them.

Yep, but he would lose those apples as well (since he needs at least 3 of them to reach wall level), since apples don't have wall level durability. The principle is similar to potato cannons - food projectiles are getting launched at very high speeds, but then it explodes into pieces after hitting the target. So his short period of cooldown kinda puts him in danger, since he basically loses all his apples after hitting them at high speeds and needs to wait until it's over. Also if he decides to make more apples and crush me with them - it would take a while, since apples are somewhat light and he can't throw all of them at Transonic speeds

Considering prior knowledge, I don't think they'd try to chase them a lot, and would rather just throw apples.

He still needs to somehow find me to win, so here's that. Maybe he will manage stamina well enough, but it would be easier to hide from him than for him hiding from me

How'd you avoid the place literally burning down though?

Wait for the timing to explode them mid-air, throw them far away from flammable objects, and even if I have no way around fire - VSBW AppleMaker can extinguish it with apple juice to not get burned himself, also I could stay away from the fire so I won't get burns

With prior knowledge I hardly think that would work, also healing would pretty much counter that.

His healing is pretty weak, it's basically same as Low level regen, which won't heal even deep cuts and burns. It would just ease the pain and heal wounds that normally leave bruises. Not to mention that while he knows about my weaponry - he still have risks of getting outskilled

Doing that would leave you so vulnerable and allow him to throw apples at you.

Tbh you pretty much have no counters for VSBW AppleMaker's apples.

Not really, I have speed and ap advantage, so if I blitz him in cqc and finish him off with explosion or throw firecrackers before he spawns apples - I win. Not to mention that this time my enhanced senses aren't the factor, since I just need to catch him with few firecrackers or outlast him to win

 

[Mythic381]

Yep, but he would lose those apples as well (since he needs at least 3 of them to reach wall level), since apples don't have wall level durability. The principle is similar to potato cannons - food projectiles are getting launched at very high speeds, but then it explodes into pieces after hitting the target. So his short period of cooldown kinda puts him in danger, since he basically loses all his apples after hitting them at high speeds and needs to wait until it's over. Also if he decides to make more apples and crush me with them - it would take a while, since apples are somewhat light and he can't throw all of them at Transonic speeds

My point was more of, he could create more apples after he throws them, as he does have that ability, which would allow him to pretty much make enough holes where you'd either get hit with them and die or be forced to run away, and I can't guarantee you'd outrun any of them.

He still needs to somehow find me to win, so here's that. Maybe he will manage stamina well enough, but it would be easier to hide from him than for him hiding from me

I don't think hiding in a burning chuck e cheese would be that easy.

Wait for the timing to explode them mid-air, throw them far away from flammable objects, and even if I have no way around fire - VSBW AppleMaker can extinguish it with apple juice to not get burned himself, also I could stay away from the fire so I won't get burns

Prior knowledge would make them know that too, they'd also stay away from flammable objects and use their apple juice.

His healing is pretty weak, it's basically same as Low level regen, which won't heal even deep cuts and burns. It would just ease the pain and heal wounds that normally leave bruises. Not to mention that while he knows about my weaponry - he still have risks of getting outskilled

Which is exactly why I like prior knowledge, they obviously wouldn't run head-on to them and get hit with firecrackers, obviously would keep their distance and spam create and throw apples, potentially even be around flammable objects, since it's either you're risking potentially harming yourself by throwing a firecracker and burning down the place, switching to melee which will leave you vulnerable to apples, or stay hiding which is not going to help.

Not really, I have speed and ap advantage, so if I blitz him in cqc and finish him off with explosion or throw firecrackers before he spawns apples - I win. Not to mention that this time my enhanced senses aren't the factor, since I just need to catch him with few firecrackers or outlast him to win

Both have average human speed, so blitzing is humanely impossible. While yes, you do have the AP advantage, going for melee is leaving you vulnerable for his paralysis inducement and madness manipulation, and I'm pretty sure even low healing would heal punches.

 

[AppleMaker]

Both have average human speed, so blitzing is humanely impossible. While yes, you do have the AP advantage, going for melee is leaving you vulnerable for his paralysis inducement and madness manipulation, and I'm pretty sure even low healing would heal punches.

I have a scooter which can reach 40 mph, so it kinda helps me to either run away or blitz VSBW AppleMaker

 

[Mythic381]

I have a scooter which can reach 40 mph, so it kinda helps me to either run away or blitz VSBW AppleMaker

Hey buddy I don't think you should be using a scooter in a chuck e cheese.

 

[AppleMaker]

My point was more of, he could create more apples after he throws them, as he does have that ability, which would allow him to pretty much make enough holes where you'd either get hit with them and die or be forced to run away, and I can't guarantee you'd outrun any of them.

I can move from one place to another, trying to catch him with firecrackers, so I'm not really forced to rely on one specific hiding spot

I don't think hiding in a burning chuck e cheese would be that easy.

Maybe, still fire could distract him from explosions or force him to extinguish it, since firecrackers are thrown at his direction

Prior knowledge would make them know that too, they'd also stay away from flammable objects and use their apple juice.

My point was that I most likely could avoid my own explosions and collateral destruction more effectively, since I have more experience with firecrackers, not to mention that he's the one who needs to dodge them in the first place, since firecrackers would fly mostly to his direction

Which is exactly why I like prior knowledge, they obviously wouldn't run head-on to them and get hit with firecrackers, obviously would keep their distance and spam create and throw apples, potentially even be around flammable objects, since it's either you're risking potentially harming yourself by throwing a firecracker and burning down the place, switching to melee which will leave you vulnerable to apples, or stay hiding which is not going to help.

Hiding could help me catching him in explosions, that's it. Also my point was that knowing how fast he's going to reach insane AP values - starting with melee and blitzing him with scooter can slow him down and get me an opening for throwing firecrackers at him (but before I need to move away with by my scooter and preferably hide). But yep, madness and paralysis hax still are issue. Also I want to mention the fact that explosives are loud, they would definitely distract VSBW AppleMaker in one way or another, and I can throw them in any direction so I could make and opening and then blow up him. While his apples are fast af - it would be hard to use them as an ambushing attack, since, you know, they need to hit the target and they have lower surface than explosions, you can't just randomly waste apples and hoping to hit the opponent you don't even know his location

Both have average human speed, so blitzing is humanely impossible. While yes, you do have the AP advantage, going for melee is leaving you vulnerable for his paralysis inducement and madness manipulation, and I'm pretty sure even low healing would heal punches.

Yep, he can heal himself with apples from punches, but I'm pretty sure scooter can do more damage than punches and as I said earlier, melee start could result in my victory by simply preventing him from moving away from firecrackers

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Siding witrh VSBW Apple. Arguments sound more convincing

 

[Kachon123]

VSBW Apple slams.

All vsbw users should also have information analysis, which would help VSBW Apple figure out all possible wincons and strategies that TRW Apple has and counter accordingly.

 

[Mythic381]

I can move from one place to another, trying to catch him with firecrackers, so I'm not really forced to rely on one specific hiding spot

Running from one place to another is exactly what will leave you vulnerable considering the speed of his throwing, it just leaves him an opening to put a hole through him.

Maybe, still fire could distract him from explosions or force him to extinguish it, since firecrackers are thrown at his direction

Well, fire spreads, so it will reach you and force you to move.

My point was that I most likely could avoid my own explosions and collateral destruction more effectively, since I have more experience with firecrackers, not to mention that he's the one who needs to dodge them in the first place, since firecrackers would fly mostly to his direction

(Don't throw firecrackers inside of a chuck e cheese kids, that shit kills you, unless you're a professional like @AppleMaker)

He can technically also hide behind non-flammable objects, hitting for flammable objects harms both of you, so either is a disadvantage for you.

Hiding could help me catching him in explosions, that's it. Also my point was that knowing how fast he's going to reach insane AP values - starting with melee and blitzing him with scooter can slow him down and get me an opening for throwing firecrackers at him (but before I need to move away with by my scooter and preferably hide). But yep, madness and paralysis hax still are issue. Also I want to mention the fact that explosives are loud, they would definitely distract VSBW AppleMaker in one way or another, and I can throw them in any direction so I could make and opening and then blow up him. While his apples are fast af - it would be hard to use them as an ambushing attack, since, you know, they need to hit the target and they have lower surface than explosions, you can't just randomly waste apples and hoping to hit the opponent you don't even know his location

Hiding will result in apples creating holes in front of whatever you're hiding behind.
Trying to ride your scooter will result in a hole being put through you with an apple, and you can't really close your ears while riding it, and considering how loud a scooter is, you really can't expect for him not to find you, so you're also leaving yourself vulnerable for the most atrocious powerscaling takes you'll ever hear. (6D DC)
Trying to get an opening for your firecracker in the open will result in a hole through your face, hiding while throwing firecrackers will result in him knowing their location and putting a hole through everything.

The problem is that they could create apples at any time, and throw 1 at a time at you, there's really no escape.

Yep, he can heal himself with apples from punches, but I'm pretty sure scooter can do more damage than punches and as I said earlier, melee start could result in my victory by simply preventing him from moving away from firecrackers

Assuming he wouldn't just throw an apple while you're riding your scooter, you're cooked.

 

[AppleMaker]

The problem is that they could create apples at any time, and throw 1 at a time at you, there's really no escape.

As I said previously, he needs more than 1 apple to break most hiding spots, don't forget that to break door you need 500 kilojoules, which is almost as high as his 99 high speed apples, so it's harder than you think. Loud noises could help me avoid his haxxed takes and not to mention that explosives can distract him from scooter noises. Not to mention that he have a cooldown, so it would be very stupid of him to try and break my hiding spots

Assuming he wouldn't just throw an apple while you're riding your scooter, you're cooked.

He needs to spawn them first and most likely lift them off the ground as well

 

[Mythic381]

As I said previously, he needs more than 1 apple to break most hiding spots, don't forget that to break door you need 500 kilojoules, which is almost as high as his 99 high speed apples, so it's harder than you think

He doesn't need to break the door fully, just make a couple holes through them that exposes you.

Loud noises could help me avoid his haxxed takes and not to mention that explosives can distract him from scooter noises. Not to mention that he have a cooldown, so it would be very stupid of him to try and break my hiding spots

The only loud noise you can realistically produce is from firecrackers, which risk your hiding spot being exposed. Yes they can, but I'm pretty sure he'd notice someone starting up a large ass scooter in the middle of a chuck e cheese on a Wednesday night.

Also, how long is the cooldown and how many apples can he spawn at once?

 

[AppleMaker]

He doesn't need to break the door fully, just make a couple holes through them that exposes you.

The only loud noise you can realistically produce is from firecrackers, which risk your hiding spot being exposed. Yes they can, but I'm pretty sure he'd notice someone starting up a large ass scooter in the middle of a chuck e cheese on a Wednesday night.

Also, how long is the cooldown and how many apples can he spawn at once?

10 seconds cooldown and 100 apples limit

 

[Mythic381]

10 seconds cooldown and 100 apples limit

So he can indeed just spawn all 100 apples and throw them at whatever hiding spot (once he figures it out) they are and instantly kill them, or in basically any case they see them.

 

[Rayfire]

Most firecrackers don't actually have much AoE at all, so vsb apple would have to be taken off-guard completely for a clean hit, which would be hard given a lack of stealth feats and that the fuse burning would be clearly audible in a building has not a single other soul around. It'd be completely silent other than the movement's of both apples.

Also, assuming that this place is abandoned, it'd probably be dark as sh*t inside, so finding a good hiding spot that can take hits from wall tier attacks would be even harder in that case. ~6 Kilojoules is a lot of energy, more than a bus or a semi-truck slamming straight into you at urban speed limits, and that's just one apple. One hit from this is 100% gonna break something, bones or hiding spots, nevermind the fact that he can create these in stupidly large amounts like danmaku.

Vsb apple is explicitly said to be able to manipulate already existing apples too, so it's possible that missed shots can be reused even if they've been turned into juice from violent impacts with walls, and that's going to make the cooldown less of a drawback if being able to launch these across the location easily didn't already, and the situation will be especially bad if real world apple doesn't end the fight quickly. He'd have to pay attention to multiple angles at once.

The starting distance is also 10 metres, which doesn't give you a ton of time to avoid dozens of apples that will hit you in less than a second, and carrying firecrackers and a scooter makes this even harder too.

Gonna vote vsb apple FRA

 

[AppleMaker]

Alr, and that's grace

 

[AppleMaker]

"NO BALDI, DON'T DROP THE NUKE!!!!" (VSBW AppleMaker vs Alter Baldi) (0-0-0)

Rules: AppleMaker have prior knowledge of Baldi's nuclear bomb Baldi have prior knowledge of AppleMaker's hax AppleMaker have all his apples Baldi is restricted to his jetpack, melee weapons and his nuclear bomb Speed is not equalized Starting distance is 100 meters "Do you want to cosplay...

vsbattles.com

 

[MannyQ361]

Voting VSBW Applemaker fra and the given conditions.

 

[Shadowslash125]

Fictional Maker of real apples (VSBW one) FRA

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Don't worry, round 12 of my tournament is coming soon

But anyways, here are the rules:

• VSBW AppleMaker starts with 0 apples
• TRW AppleMaker have access to firecrackers (I'm wearing a backpack) and Scooter
• Both have prior knowledge of each other's hax, abilities and weapons
• TRW AppleMaker is 10-A with 9-C durability, Athletic LS and Speed and Below Average stamina
• VSBW AppleMaker's 7-C key is restricted
• Battle takes place in some random empty Chuck E. Cheese and starting distance is 10 meters
• Speed is not equalized

AppleMaker who makes VSBW matches: 1 (@AppleMaker)

AppleMaker who actually makes apples: 6 (@Mythic381); (@Lloydblitzed); (@Kachon123); (@Rayfire); (@MannyQ361); (@Shadowslash125)

I accept myself and adding "multiple selves" to their profiles (incon):

On one end, the Joke Battles version of you can make apples out of thin air and throw them faster than racecars
On the other end, the real FCOC version of you with firecrackers and fireworks you should be 9-B and should be able to deploy them faster than the Joke Battles version of you can create and deploy apples (but then again, you don't even have the fireworks, just the firecrackers, so your range is absolutely crap compared to the Joke Battles version of you with the apples AND you're not 9-B).

Incon would be a nice vote but if we're taking the match seriously...

Most firecrackers don't actually have much AoE at all, so vsb apple would have to be taken off-guard completely for a clean hit, which would be hard given a lack of stealth feats and that the fuse burning would be clearly audible in a building has not a single other soul around. It'd be completely silent other than the movement's of both apples.

Also, assuming that this place is abandoned, it'd probably be dark as sh*t inside, so finding a good hiding spot that can take hits from wall tier attacks would be even harder in that case. ~6 Kilojoules is a lot of energy, more than a bus or a semi-truck slamming straight into you at urban speed limits, and that's just one apple. One hit from this is 100% gonna break something, bones or hiding spots, nevermind the fact that he can create these in stupidly large amounts like danmaku.

Vsb apple is explicitly said to be able to manipulate already existing apples too, so it's possible that missed shots can be reused even if they've been turned into juice from violent impacts with walls, and that's going to make the cooldown less of a drawback if being able to launch these across the location easily didn't already, and the situation will be especially bad if real world apple doesn't end the fight quickly. He'd have to pay attention to multiple angles at once.

The starting distance is also 10 metres, which doesn't give you a ton of time to avoid dozens of apples that will hit you in less than a second, and carrying firecrackers and a scooter makes this even harder too.

Gonna vote vsb apple FRA

Also the apples have amygdalin, which is a cyanide, in their seeds, so...

Apple - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Amygdalin - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

(Yes the root etymology of the poison is the same root for the amygdala in our brains, no our amygdalae/amygdalas/corpus amygdaloideum do not produce it or we'd all be dead.)
I vote Joke Battles Apple winning/FCOC real Apple losing.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

vsbw apple fra