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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0
- Thread starter Dragonite007
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How does Cleffa stop Positron from incapacitating them with Radiation outside of it's range?
Bobsican
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This comes to mind, probably
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Now imagine Cleffa trying to get close to a guy who can fly and range spam from the air. Cleffa is a character you need to be in breath smelling distance to be threatened by.
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The guys directly above him respawn and I lost the debate for that spot, so wherever Posi goes, they go.
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Aside from mind attacks in return?
I have a feeling Sing is a mental effect and hence probably resisted.
Bobsican
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Are they passive, or...?
Anyways, Glaedr's profile currently doesn't list any resistances whatsoever, so that may be a topic for a CRT.
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His mind attacks are at thought.
It does list mind manipulation resistance.
MichaelCalistro
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https://vsbattles.com/threads/goku-vs-arale-redux-o-0-0-0.183891/
I am trying to figure out who is a bigger non-smurf between Goku and Arale since they are both on the list.
I am trying to figure out who is a bigger non-smurf between Goku and Arale since they are both on the list.
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Daguva should now have tens of kilometers via TP to take over Mardicus.
Also, nothing's really stopping him from becoming his 6-C/5-B form and oneshotting.
Might as well check on his 9-B and I can proudly say he can slide under Morgan Yu for now due to no one being able to resist his Overwhelming Aura + Fear Hax.
His 6-C and 5-B... IDK for now, although he might be right where Kuuga was prior to becoming a smurf.
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Hes definitly not sliding above Haruna.
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Me when funni Daguva converts her molecules into plasma at an atomic scale, and sets her completely ablaze, cooking her alive while also using her own self as fuel for the fire
Me when funni Daguva passively exudes Overwhelming Aura + Fear hax that fears her and damages her at the same time.
Me when funni Daguva becomes 6-C to oneshot his opposition with planetary range.
You were saying?
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Laughs at nanomaterial body that can be controlled at a atomar level
Laughs at her being a machine plus passive town level forcefield protecting her
Laughs at thought based spatial freeze and deletion
That Haruna wins quite handily
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Share it with the class
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Firstly, idk what tf you mean by atomar.
Secondly...
Unlike Battle Spirit, one still has to worry about the Overwhelming Aura part of the aura, so she's still in danger. Also, the damage should scale to his 6-C key when he transforms into perfect form, so she's still toast.
Ignoring the fact that Daguva can immediately hop into 6-C in a whim, he can just manipulate the molecules and atoms of the forcefield, and even a small hole might be enough to start frying her from within.
I can buy thought-based activation of warheads, but I fail to see how instant they'd get to Daguva, who, mind you, can teleport away from that, which is substantial seeing as it has no homing capabilities. In contrast, his plasma ignition is actually thought-based here.
I beg to differ.
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English is a hard english, please understando
Haruna entire body is composed of nanomaterials that can simulate every atomic makeup possible, she can literally counteract that his attack by reverting the effect. my reading comprehension is quite well thank you very much.
So it doesn't affect her at all until he amps.
The legendary molecules and atoms of space. Spatial forcefield. In fact, what forcefield out there consist of actual matter my guy? Also, Haruna thinks and hes erased.
Because shes not doing it the a corrosive warhead, shes doing it with her Kleinfield. She can catch things in a spatial bubble and apply gravitional waves to everything inside it, which freezes and corrodes space itself.
No need to beg, but differ we ain't.
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And hes 2 slots above her for that, so yeah?
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Hmmhm. Passable.
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I also just realised that this is 9-B Kamen schmuck initially. Haruna just oneshots lmao.
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Her atomic makeup would be converted into plasma, which is what's igniting her. She can't simulate anything with her atoms/molecules, especially their numbers keep decreasing due to becoming plasma for the ignition. It's like glass production, the grains of sand are converted into glass when heated.
Which by this point he loves to amp very fast, so nigh-instant.
Due to Daguva's big ass TP range, they'd be 4km away from each other thanks to SBA. When Daguva amps that shit, planetary range. You can't erase what's too far from you.
Also, no matter? Instant Plasma ignition to Haruna. Even if that forcefield ends up being physical, he can just target the person inside, lol.
And I've been told that this is in fact possible! Go figure.
Unfortunately, his plasma ignition is no projectile.
This is ultimately irrelevant since big ass range.
Tell me you didn't read the profile without telling me you didn't read the profile.
He isn't exclusively locked to that tier key, y'know?
It doesn't help your case that Haruna's profile is ******* outdated without any adequate explanations, especially for the P&A. It's like a ******* desert right now. FFS put some scans or something to make it better for people to get an understanding of her.
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And she turns it back before it ignites? She has picosecond reaction speed, she realises and reverts before he even thinks about igniting her. And even if he could, she could literally just discard the affected parts.
Okay so he amps while Haruna thinks. I really don't see how youre arguing that he pulls that off before Haruna erases him.
Okay now pull up where he performs exactly that. Pull up a moment where he transforms and passive nukes a planet. Like what exactly can he do at "planetary" range in the first place?
Which would require an additional action, while Harunas first action is a surefire kill when it connects.
Like, you gotta decide what happens first. Does he transform instantly, does he burn instantly, does he stay 4 kilometer away from Haruna and range game. You have brought up 3 supposed wincons (1 Really, staying at range as the rest would get him killed). They do not happen at the same time.
He starts out at that tier. It doesnt matter that his next step his transforming into a higher tier, if that is his first action he would be dead, because Harunas first action is erasing him. Or oneshotting him with a single attack
Someday.
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At this point, might as well make a match about this, since we're in an impasse.
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Im putting it up to the smellers within this thread. If Dragonite believes your arguments are suffice then so be it. I do not feel strongly enough to have a hour long debate over nothing ultimately.
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Then why bother even chiming in at all if you're ultimately wussing out?
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To get mean comments from you smile.
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??????
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You have been riled up over nothing is my point. I disagree with Daguva being above Haruna, but you don't have to convince me for change to happen, you have to convince the OP of this thread.
Take a breath son. If Dragunite disagrees you can still do the thread.
Take a breath son. If Dragunite disagrees you can still do the thread.
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Dude, if only you had just gotten this point across earlier on.
Look, I may have been on the aggressive side a lot, which I apologise for, but it doesn't help that you were essentially ragebaiting me throughout it, and it really doesn't sit too well ngl. In fact, that almost escalated the situation had you not clarified later on.
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I have been ragebaiting...? Your first reply to my first counterarguments were literally "reading comprehension where?" I think you sat the ton of this whole convo yourself. In fact, going by our 6 post interactions, only you have engaged in (I emphasize minor, as I didnt mind them nor found them offensive or attacking) personal potshots for no reason.
Is everything good on your end?
Is everything good on your end?
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I'll admit I did get really aggressive so I'll concede on that point.
However, the me assuming you were ragebaiting came from this, which just rubbed me the wrong way (despite the shit I did):
Other than that, I'm fine. Got too hot headed. Will cooldown by having a sleep.
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I thought we were that freaky, my bad G
Rikimarox2
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Nominating Neo and Anomaly 79 for a spot in 9-B, 7-C, and 7-B.
Anomaly 79's shenanigans;
Resurrection and duplication out of the ass, and even shit like time devouring, concept stuff, EE, etc... cannot do shit to them, and they get stronger with each passing day, and in the 9th month, they become 7-C/7-B. Resists a **** ton of stuff as well.
Not sure about 7-C/7-B, but in 9-B, I think Neo should comfortably sit above Mado Horrors. Not sure about Subaru since idk what he does. As for Anomaly 79, I'm not sure if the 15th and 14th spot could permanently kill it before it exponentially increases in numbers and strength.
Anomaly 79's shenanigans;
Resurrection and duplication out of the ass, and even shit like time devouring, concept stuff, EE, etc... cannot do shit to them, and they get stronger with each passing day, and in the 9th month, they become 7-C/7-B. Resists a **** ton of stuff as well.
9-B:
Aura that can cause others to stiff in fear and force them to the ground unable to do anything, and cause them to lose consciousness (a few layers)
Somewhat decent Regen.
Mid-Godly resurrection, and resists res neg as well. Can also just, straight up kill himself via a thought and come back.
Type 3 Conceptual Death Manip that applies the concept of death on something.
Resurrection and Regen negation out of the ass
Accelerated development shenanigans.
Absorption
Tons of resistances (check this page)
Literally infinite potency in terms of mind manip/emotions/whatever mind related stuff resistance.
7-C/7-B
Everything previously mentioned, but much better.
Resistance Neg
Much stronger aura
Law manip due to his concept of death.
Time absorption
Time stop
EE (can erase things with his death via a thought)
Power mimicry (can take the powers of others via his hell stuff)
Spatial Manip shenanigans (his death could shatter space)
Conceptual Sleep manip (?)
Immo neg
And an absurd damage reduction that works on literally everything, including Concept and Info erasure, blocking 50% of it, and will keep on blocking 50% of it forever.
Aura that can cause others to stiff in fear and force them to the ground unable to do anything, and cause them to lose consciousness (a few layers)
Somewhat decent Regen.
Mid-Godly resurrection, and resists res neg as well. Can also just, straight up kill himself via a thought and come back.
Type 3 Conceptual Death Manip that applies the concept of death on something.
Resurrection and Regen negation out of the ass
Accelerated development shenanigans.
Absorption
Tons of resistances (check this page)
Literally infinite potency in terms of mind manip/emotions/whatever mind related stuff resistance.
7-C/7-B
Everything previously mentioned, but much better.
Resistance Neg
Much stronger aura
Law manip due to his concept of death.
Time absorption
Time stop
EE (can erase things with his death via a thought)
Power mimicry (can take the powers of others via his hell stuff)
Spatial Manip shenanigans (his death could shatter space)
Conceptual Sleep manip (?)
Immo neg
And an absurd damage reduction that works on literally everything, including Concept and Info erasure, blocking 50% of it, and will keep on blocking 50% of it forever.
Not sure about 7-C/7-B, but in 9-B, I think Neo should comfortably sit above Mado Horrors. Not sure about Subaru since idk what he does. As for Anomaly 79, I'm not sure if the 15th and 14th spot could permanently kill it before it exponentially increases in numbers and strength.
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Would mind corruption work on them?
Also, something being conceptual doesn't necessarily mean it's stronger. Conceptual Sleep Manip and normal Sleep Manip get resisted the same.
And for the record, if mind corruption doesn't work, they can easily slot above Gallywix.
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I was going to fight it but imposing the concept of death is too much.
