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I'll check the Demon Physiology page after my D&D session, but a lot of those passives don't seem passive and I don't know if Lady should resist them
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Devil May Cry Discussion Thread
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Well, i guess both the Fortuna and Dumary Islands people are just build diferent since according to even DMC5 demonic invasion happens with way more frequency on this places, so they are already used to demonic precenses!
For now we accept as demons have all passives of the Demon World, so Lady and any devil hunter gets that by just fighting them in a daily basis!
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You can argue Lady is descendants of that priestess who make sacrifice for Teme Ni Gru in the past, so she's already unique to begin with as her blood is also key to release Teme Ni Gru tower.
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Dante vs Clive Rosfield is the next Death Battle btw
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Dante getting some ass whooping soon.
Unless they add PoC but Dissidia is always there.
Unless they add PoC but Dissidia is always there.
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Clive isnt scaling to where Dante is scaled, also has no crossover stuff, all these from an expert on him, so Dante outclasses badly
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The thing is, that could possibly change. A new Dissida game is gonna be revealed in a couple days, and Clive is almost guaranteed to be in it, plus there's a lore book on the way which could potentially add some good stuff, or nothing at all. We don't know yet.
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Problem is—in the phase they are in—they can't possibly change their stance anymore.
They had already announced the fight.
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Oh yeah, I was just responding to him generally speaking
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Seems like a stretch, or perhaps an indication Demons don't have the passives people claim they have
Unless something like that is stated within universe (Lady having being better at defeating demons because of her blood), this is just head cannon
Ok, let's go through all the passives here
- Law manip doesn't seem to affect humans, just the world around so that Demons can exist, so Lady shouldn't have resistance to it
- Physics Manipulation & Gravity Manipulation, the gravity manip doesn't even happen in the human world, it is just a quirk from the Demon World, the physics manips video is not available. Regardless, both are tangible effects that everyone could see affecting the world, and they never happen around Lady, so she shouldn't resist it.
- Absorption is more about the Demon World, as far as I know, no Demon displayed any absooption power and, if they did, it is not in any of those scans
- Reality Warping's scans are non-existant
- Biological Manipulation's scans don't seem to imply all demons are capable of that ability and once again, nobody in Fortuna was affected
- Curse Manipulation only affects objects, Lady is not an object
- Corruption involves breathing Demonic Air, there is nothing saying being near a portal spreads Demonic Air, and Lady has never been to the Demon World and once again, Fortuna's inhabitants were never affected as well
- How is Time Travel passive?
- Sleep Manipulation seems to be a side effect of the place Tony was in being transformed into a Demon World, and not the work of a demon, and even if it was, why are we assuming all Demons have this, when Tony, who has faced many Demons, is only getting sleepy in this specific circunstance, why didn't he get sleepy when he faced other Demons? Why was nobody in fortuna sleeping when those demons attacked?
- Paralysis Inducement: Why isn't this grouped with Empathic, Fear & Madness manip? It uses the same scan for those
- Mind Manip: Comments once again about the Demon World, and not demons, but once again, if this is always happen via Demons exhisting, why was nobody in Fortuna affected by this?
- Disease Manip was covered earlier
- Transmutation, Soul Manipulation & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 2)'s link is broken
- Space-Time Manipulation & Time Stop: Why was time never stopped when the Demons invaded Fortuna? Why didn't the Demons stopped time on DMC 3 when the Temen-ni-gru was raised?
- Illusion Creation and Statistics Reduction might be a thing, but I question, once again, why Tony is having those Illusions in specific moments when he kills Demons all the time, the first part he was drunk, but the last part he was sober as far as I know
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Too late for it unfortunately, that mobile game many not even be in the same continuity as the previous, SE may just drop the title and release date for the game and nothing else, let alone tell us if Clive will be in and knowing gacha he will probably come out staggered a while after release in a drip feed, as I reckon you won't have the huge FF cast all in like the older games at the start.
And unless that lore book comes out this week, I don't think it will be included, Death Battle research is usually completed quite a bit before their announcement if I recall that right.
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This is why we labeled the Demon Physiology blog as unreliable. Did you read the note above the blog?
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Yes, but people are pointing out she should have resistances to all passives Demons have, so I typed all of that '-'
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The only passives lesser and low level demons have. Fear/madness/soul aura shit.
Possession too given the events of the CD drama.
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All of that is demon world shit that Sonic put in the physiology page for whatever ******** reasons. Those will be gone if/when I finish the demon physiology rework.
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Because your dumbass is too lazy to actually do the work yourself and just sit there complaining about things you barely participate in. Why the profiles have not been updated for years Tony?
Also for the record, I only added those on other's requests and didn't had the time to sort it out properly.
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And just so we’re clear, I’m the one who put that warning note on the physiology blog since you’re too incompetent to actually deal with the relevant stuff. So spare me the attitude.
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Don't call people things like that, please. I understand an armchair critic is annoying, but please don't.
Are you an opponent of the verse now? I understand Netflix's vandalising propaganda show and the reboot's knock-off 1984 both scarred the franchise, but still.
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Then maybe ask him to look in the mirror for once and stop blaming others for his own skill issue.
Funny how he was nowhere to be seen when downgrades happened yet suddenly became a roadblock the moment real work started getting done.
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Please calm down, Sonic.
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Maybe because this is a hobby and irl things take precedence? idk about you but I would let the pages rot to hell and back while I do my rl stuff and maybe fix them if I have the time to spare.
I could make a jab at you here and there but that would be just adding more fuel to the flames so I will let it slide.
Funny because I requested it in the thread I made. Also nah, you get the attitude.
He is angry for obvious reasons, let him be.
Nah, I will always support DMC. Those are just all the demon world haxes that were granted to demons in Sonic's UES thread for some reason, I will obviously take them all away (because obvious reasons) if I make the thread to replace the demon physiology thread with the updated version along with a thread to differentiate the demon world energy from demonic power.
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Can both of you stop? Back to your corners. (Takes out spray bottle)
We don't want a hostile environment, but people are allowed to argue obviously. It's more a request and suggestion.
Some passives are clearly stated, such as the fear hax.
I have to ask, you keep talking about a Tier 1 revision. Is that actually happening, and what is it based on? You can answer that in a direct message to me if you'd rather keep it private.
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At this point why would you even believe his words, he tried to argue tier 1 based on that manga panel wording without poc scans that were more believable (even if they were fake in the end), when Sonic cooked something with the 2-A stuff that staff actually agreed on and seen viable, he came in to exclude it for good
On top of how during the time Netflix had the show going around fresh, he stubbornly pushed for a vendetta of Lady > Dante despite in their encounter they made it clear in a physical fight she aint shit to him without using gadgets and anyone arguing no had him persistently insisting it was as his words say
The real life excuse holds nothing either, he had time to get rid of POC scaling and everything to it in a lengthy, but not smaller things that fixes the series outdated stuff and what not, as well as of course the way he acts out to nearly everyone with an attitude
Why believe his ass on any tier 1 upgrade, what does the verse even have in all materials he doesnt exclude, not used before to get it that high
On top of how during the time Netflix had the show going around fresh, he stubbornly pushed for a vendetta of Lady > Dante despite in their encounter they made it clear in a physical fight she aint shit to him without using gadgets and anyone arguing no had him persistently insisting it was as his words say
The real life excuse holds nothing either, he had time to get rid of POC scaling and everything to it in a lengthy, but not smaller things that fixes the series outdated stuff and what not, as well as of course the way he acts out to nearly everyone with an attitude
Why believe his ass on any tier 1 upgrade, what does the verse even have in all materials he doesnt exclude, not used before to get it that high
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There is stuff with the demon world that could be argued as Tier 1. Not just that one panel, all the continuums contained inside it.
Opposed it, certainly. The Helfilth profile needed to be made first though. We can look at scaling around it later.
Mary does tend to get the best of Nante through various means, and she does show the ability to harm him with her strikes as well. She also blocked Cavaliere's strike meaning she should scale to him. So she honestly should compare, and the show's treatment of the characters is disrespectful.
Yeah, we can look back into the demon world either way, but scaling to Helfilth doesn't seem impossible. Considering the people that beat her were apparently literally the same as the main story versions except for meeting her there.
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Man, some of you guys really need to chill, lol.
Maybe focus on the profiles, that isn't just Tier 2?
WE will deal with other verse wide stuff eventually.
Maybe focus on the profiles, that isn't just Tier 2?
WE will deal with other verse wide stuff eventually.
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I Think you should do it @Random-Helper323 considering your role.
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I am doing an overhaul for Lady, ye
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This should be something everyone does '-'. Staff have generally less time as well
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Then you do it :V
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Also, there are some misunderstandings I can see here regarding the verse stuff especially Demon Energy and it's passive abilities.
I plan to eventually tackle all of that, just that RL stuff keeps me too occupied to work much on the wiki stuff.
I plan to eventually tackle all of that, just that RL stuff keeps me too occupied to work much on the wiki stuff.
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It would involve axing most of the things in Demon Physiology (Probably even the page itself and never remake it again) as I believe several of those abilities to be wanked and it is not worth the headache of going through everything just to fix the pages
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I don't think that's how things work.
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I mean it generally is, there is a lot of things here (Not only on DMC but everywhere) that are only in the site because someone who made the CRT believes that's the truth.
Take for example, Mr Frog's page, who lists Immortality type 8, which he is only given when a specific Demon is said to have it in the show (And not Demons in general). It's bs, but the person who made the upgrade thred believe that is the truth and nobody contested it. It is how things here work
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U said axing the whole thing cos it's wank and you don't wanna go through it.
I said that's not how things work.
I also said I will deal with DE, DWE,
Magic. Also plan to include Soul and Layering to the same.
And Tony is handling Demon Phys.
I recommend the rest to handle profiles. The verse is really poor quality beyond the top tiers.
We intend to handle more verse wide stuff like haxes and cosmology later.
I said that's not how things work.
I also said I will deal with DE, DWE,
Magic. Also plan to include Soul and Layering to the same.
And Tony is handling Demon Phys.
I recommend the rest to handle profiles. The verse is really poor quality beyond the top tiers.
We intend to handle more verse wide stuff like haxes and cosmology later.
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Final Fantasy 16 Combat Director Thinks Clive Can Beat Devil May Cry's Dante
Former Capcom developer and current Final Fantasy 16 combat director, Ryota Suzuki, believes that FF16's Clive can defeat Devil May Cry's Dante.
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Dante is cooked
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What is going to be kept or altered? Or do you not know yet?
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Nah, no need for axing that. I meant that you should help out in fixing the existing profile pages—leave the physiology shit to Tony and Tanin.
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Ahh shit. Well GGs everyone.Final Fantasy 16 Combat Director Thinks Clive Can Beat Devil May Cry's Dante
Former Capcom developer and current Final Fantasy 16 combat director, Ryota Suzuki, believes that FF16's Clive can defeat Devil May Cry's Dante.
Dante is cooked
