"You can pretty much overpower a cheetah with moderate difficulty" (AppleMaker vs Cheetah) (6-2-0)

[AppleMaker]

Shoutout to @H3110l12345I20 for this quote

You can pretty much overpower a cheetah with moderate difficulty, doesn't make you Wall level.

Rules:

• Speed is equalized (no KE one-shot, lmao)
• AppleMaker have no equipment (no firecracker throw gg)
• Both have average stamina
• SBA

AppleMaker actually overpowers a cheetah: 6 (@Greatsage13th); (@Qurbonboev); (@Delusionaltx2); (@Kazuma_kuwabara); (@Arkansalter2); (@Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer)

Cheetah scratches the crap out of him: 2 (@JustANormalLemon); (@Lloydblitzed)

Incon:

 

[AppleMaker]

Might change some rules though

 

[Greatsage13th]

You'd win most definitely.

 

[AppleMaker]

You'd win most definitely.

Not in a stomp way? Since I could nerf myself by lowering my stamina

 

[Greatsage13th]

Not in a stomp way? Since I could nerf myself by lowering my stamina

Not a stomp. It can still bite your neck, but you can kick it.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Speed is equalized (no KE one-shot, lmao)

It's almost complete stomp(at least 90% of times, just don't job and accidentally let it bite your neck or other vital parts) with speed equalized. Equalize the speed to make actually debatable matchup. Cheetahs don't ram prey(otherwise they would ******* die). They try to bite something vital, and they can change their direction pretty fast with claws. Cheetah would try to bite you over and over again, and Applemaker would need to block it with hands(pain resistance is pretty handy). And if Applemaker ever catches it.
What decides Applemaker stamina level? Cus even with average human level, he is dwarfing cheetah stamina pretty easily.

SBA

What is range? 10 meters, I assume

 

[AppleMaker]

So, you think I could beat it even with lower stamina? Also I think cheetah prolly have LS advantage, since my caps at 120-130 kg at best, while they wrestle Wildebeests and Kudus

 

[Greatsage13th]

What is range? 10 meters, I assume

SBA is 4km

 

[AppleMaker]

SBA is 4km

It's either longest range of combatant and 4 km at most

 

[Greatsage13th]

It's either longest range of combatant and 4 km at most

I see

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Speed is equalized (no KE one-shot, lmao)

Not how Speed equalization works, the cheeta would still have the same KE AP at It's maximun speed even with speed equalized(similar to how a character who can time travel trough sheer speed can still time travel if speed equalization makes him human level speed) trough It don't matter as a cheeta wouldn't use that to her advantage

anyway, I can't see the cheeta losing most of the time, people die from dog attacks and a cheeta is even worst, you can try to block It's attacks all you want but IRL animals are basically bloodlusted naturaly in SBA, the cheeta will be fifghting not only to kill but to destroy, I don't see Apple taking the W here most of the time, Voting Cheeta

 

[AppleMaker]

1st potential inconclusive match?

 

[Greatsage13th]

1st potential inconclusive match?

Nah

 

[Qurbonboev]

So, you think I could beat it even with lower stamina? Also I think cheetah prolly have LS advantage, since my caps at 120-130 kg at best, while they wrestle Wildebeests and Kudus

With lower stamina, nah. But what decides your level of stamina?
I underestimated their level of LS, my bad.
With speed equalized and 10 meters of range, you still have some advantages over it. There is a reason cheetah don't attack humans in wild after all.

anyway, I can't see the cheeta losing most of the time, people die from dog attacks and a cheeta is even worst,

Only children and old people die from dog attacks(if we discount rabies and similar)

 

[AppleMaker]

With lower stamina, nah. But what decides your level of stamina?
I underestimated their level of LS, my bad.
With speed equalized and 10 meters of range, you still have some advantages over it. There is a reason cheetah don't attack humans in wild after all.

Still kinda hard to determine their LS, it could be higher or lower than mine, but starting distance is at standard melee range currently

Only children and old people die from dog attacks(if we discount rabies and similar)

I mean, depends on the dog or Patrick Bateman is that weak

 

[AppleMaker]

Also my stamina is somewhat inconsistent

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Only children and old people die from dog attacks(if we discount rabies and similar)

Meh, still a cheeta isn't just a dog

 

[Qurbonboev]

Also my stamina is somewhat inconsistent

Does it increases when you are in danger?

I mean, depends on the dog or Patrick Bateman is that weak

Practically all dog victims are children. Pitbulls(much more vicious and stronger than average dog) are unique due to fact that their victims are sometimes old people too.

 

[AppleMaker]

Does it increases when you are in danger?

Idk, but endurance and strength - definitely. So I chosen highest end of my stamina

 

[JustANormalLemon]

Practically all dog victims are children. Pitbulls(much more vicious and stronger than average dog) are unique due to fact that their victims are sometimes old people too.

I still would say a basically bloodlusted(thanks to how SBA affect IRL animals) cheeta would be almost impossible for even a above averge human to take down, especially when It jumps on them and breaks bones with It's bite

 

[AppleMaker]

I still would say a basically bloodlusted(thanks to how SBA affect IRL animals) cheeta would be almost impossible for even a above averge human to take down, especially when It jumps on them and breaks bones with It's bite

I searched up it's bite force - it's about 370-420 psi, while for bone breaking it requires 500-1000 psi (but it could be way higher for some individuals who have robust bones due to medical conditions). So at worst case I'll just bleed out, but bones most likely would stay intact

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I searched up it's bite force - it's about 370-420 psi, while for bone breaking it requires 500-1000 psi (but it could be way higher for some individuals who have robust bones due to medical conditions). So at worst case I'll just bleed out, but bones most likely would stay intact

One word, PSI(technically 3 words)

 

[AppleMaker]

One word, PSI(technically 3 words)

So, how tf it bites through bones then, when I already mentioned that bones require MORE force than that? Not to mention that it just twice stronger than human bite, which obviously can't do a jack shit to bones (hell, even to a skin sometimes)

 

[JustANormalLemon]

So, how tf it bites through bones then, when I already mentioned that bones require MORE force than that? Not to mention that it just twice stronger than human bite, which obviously can't do a jack shit to bones (hell, even to a skin sometimes)

PSI, same reason a 10-A bullet can pirce a 9-B object

 

[Lloydblitzed]

One word, PSI(technically 3 words)

I mean, scaler doesn't really have counter to piercing damage, and Cheetah is good at hunting

 

[Mythic381]

With speed equalized, you can also generate equal KE, no?

 

[JustANormalLemon]

With speed equalized, you can also generate equal KE, no?

yes

 

[AppleMaker]

I mean, scaler doesn't really have counter to piercing damage, and Cheetah is good at hunting

Basically not letting that thing bite me, while paw swipes could be somewhat less effective due to me wearing a jacket that's made of harder materials, so they could just slip off

 

[AppleMaker]

With speed equalized, you can also generate equal KE, no?

I guess I should restrict 9-B ap

 

[Mythic381]

I guess I should restrict 9-B ap

You're restricting physics in a real life matchup.

 

[JustANormalLemon]

I guess I should restrict 9-B ap

no need, isn't like the cheeta will body slam you, also It would die if It did that

 

[AppleMaker]

no need, isn't like the cheeta will body slam you, also It would die if It did that

One of the most brutal inconclusives in history

 

[AppleMaker]

You're restricting physics in a real life matchup.

I mean, if speed is equal - I technically can restrict KE in that case. Anyways, who will you vote for?

 

[Qurbonboev]

I mean, if speed is equal - I technically can restrict KE in that case. Anyways, who will you vote for?

It doesn't matter anyways, cheetah never body slam others, certainly not on max speed.
Btw, where is location? Can you fetch some equipment?

 

[AppleMaker]

It doesn't matter anyways, cheetah never body slam others, certainly not on max speed.
Btw, where is location? Can you fetch some equipment?

Idk, but most likely it would be something like rocks or sticks

 

[Mythic381]

I mean, if speed is equal - I technically can restrict KE in that case. Anyways, who will you vote for?

I don't know how a Cheetah fights, so I'll wait for more input, though I'm leaning on to you rn.

 

[AThe1412]

Pretty cool guy who talks about animals. There's a section you can click on where he explains how shitty cheetahs are. They basically put most of their evolutionary points into speed and nothing else.

 

[Qurbonboev]

Idk, but most likely it would be something like rocks or sticks

What you mean "idk"? You are one deciding matchup. But even rocks and sticks can be huge advantage.
Cheetah claws are blunt and curved, so it's not as bad as with other large cats. Their bones are more slender and fragile, so even one well done punch can do extreme amount of damage.

 

[AppleMaker]

What you mean "idk"? You are one deciding matchup. But even rocks and sticks can be huge advantage.
Cheetah claws are blunt and curved, so it's not as bad as with other large cats. Their bones are more slender and fragile, so even one well done punch can do extreme amount of damage.

I'm just not really sure does SBA allows some improvised tools and weapons lying around in neutral locations

 

[Qurbonboev]

I'm just not really sure does SBA allows some improvised tools and weapons lying around in neutral locations

Technically SBA is central park, New York. But it will advantage human too much. Better put it in savanna