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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

wang wei still is in 5B despite being a smurf and Neo can take his spot maybe even higher ata has no resistance to neo concept hax.
 
This guy for 7-C. Has timestop that can basically end any fight within seconds. Along with pretty nice heat shenanigans.
Bump?
 
Question, how have the characters above Nil with a range less than Multiversal+ managed to beat her in the 2-C section when Nil is supposed to be the size of an infinite multiverse?
 
This guy for 7-B or 6-C?
 
This guy for 7-B or 6-C?

Y E S.

 
I believe due to Unknown Striking Strength they wouldn't qualify, no?
 
I believe due to Unknown Striking Strength they wouldn't qualify, no?
Wait, is that enough to disqualify somebody? Everything else is solid, the problem is that since the series is primarily danmaku we don't have stuff for striking strength
 
Wait, is that enough to disqualify somebody? Everything else is solid, the problem is that since the series is primarily danmaku we don't have stuff for striking strength
Yes, that's sadly apparently how it works. Got looooots of my characters kicked off the list.
A bit of a question: does The Old Man of Wandering Mountain (10-B spot 1) even qualify for 10-B when that's not his tier? If yes, then would like to propose Honjou Masayuki for spot 2 of 10-B, if not - spot 1
I don't see him beating Mamoru, given his lack of acausality type 1. Mamoru just makes him get hit by a car prior to him getting his powers or something, which his brand of acausality doesn't prevent I believe. (There was a time travel thing in Slime, wasn't there?)
I think Mamoru's luck is better overall.

Not sure if he could put down Akane Kiryu and survive the Shichinin Misaki either.
The former is quite immortal. I guess there might be a case to be made that magic would work, but then I don't remember what Honjou has for magic.
The Shichinin Misaki's power is passive instant death, so I don't think he can luck himself around that one.
 
I don't see him beating Mamoru, given his lack of acausality type 1. Mamoru just makes him get hit by a car prior to him getting his powers or something, which his brand of acausality doesn't prevent I believe. (There was a time travel thing in Slime, wasn't there?)
I think Mamoru's luck is better overall.
1) The whole verse actually pretty much has an unconventional Aca1 due to the fact that any attempt to change the past results in a new timeline instead of altering the present (this is the thing that comes out of the time travel), but don't know if it counts, so will present something more.
2) He is also the biggest fragment of Rudra's soul, which makes him getting his powers a certain fate and whenever Rudra's fragments are in danger, Velgrynd would come to rescue. I also believe that while his luck feats are a bit worse, combining it with Fate and Probability, he would "outhax" here
Not sure if he could put down Akane Kiryu and survive the Shichinin Misaki either.
The former is quite immortal. I guess there might be a case to be made that magic would work, but then I don't remember what Honjou has for magic.
Magic allows to interact and kill Spiritual Lifeforms, so he just can kill her, plus there is the matter of SI and Mind hax, do she would just give up
The Shichinin Misaki's power is passive instant death, so I don't think he can luck himself around that one.
It's not "instant death", it's "inevitable death". It's stated that it can take days or even months, so isn't that much of an issue. Plus the " lifeforce " thingy in Tensura would likely extend it further, as it isn't really death hax, but disease, and lifeforce already has them resisting poison and curses, due to being too "lively" (Curses in Tensura also have Biological manipulation under them, so I think we can at least count it as slowing the process down)
 
1) The whole verse actually pretty much has an unconventional Aca1 due to the fact that any attempt to change the past results in a new timeline instead of altering the present (this is the thing that comes out of the time travel), but don't know if it counts, so will present something more.
2) He is also the biggest fragment of Rudra's soul, which makes him getting his powers a certain fate and whenever Rudra's fragments are in danger, Velgrynd would come to rescue. I also believe that while his luck feats are a bit worse, combining it with Fate and Probability, he would "outhax" here
I don't think 1) works, as that's not what Mamoru's powers do.
2) Doesn't work, as Mamoru's luck just kills him before he has his powers. A third-party character saving him would amount to third-party interference in the match, so I don't think that's allowed. Also not sure how she would safe him from just tripping, hitting his head and dying. There's not really an identifiable threat there.
I also don't think fate outhaxes probability. At least not unless fate is established to bend causality, instead of being of the probability kind of fate type.
Magic allows to interact and kill Spiritual Lifeforms, so he just can kill her, plus there is the matter of SI and Mind hax, do she would just give up
Does he actually have offensive magic of that sort, though? His profile says he has magic and then fails to specify any single magical attack. If his magic is just on grounds of having magic power that may in practice not work.
There is also the thing where if the ghost is exorcised it still reappears shortly after due to the curse.

Eh, I guess mind hax is technically an option.
It's not "instant death", it's "inevitable death". It's stated that it can take days or even months, so isn't that much of an issue. Plus the " lifeforce " thingy in Tensura would likely extend it further, as it isn't really death hax, but disease, and lifeforce already has them resisting poison and curses, due to being too "lively" (Curses in Tensura also have Biological manipulation under them, so I think we can at least count it as slowing the process down)
That is only if over a huge range, like if you met it on the internet. At close range it's lethal way faster. And Masayuki has no way to get rid of it without getting into lethal range.
 

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What the hell
 
I don't think 1) works, as that's not what Mamoru's powers do.
He is altering a past event, something that didn't happen and contradicts the present. That is enough to qualify
Also, shouldn't he have Aca1 due to not being affected by changes to his past (and has he ever altered others past or only his? I also noticed how his feats of not being affected by attacks only talk about weapons breaking and missing, so can we even assume it works against passive auras and CM1 things and the like?)
2) Doesn't work, as Mamoru's luck just kills him before he has his powers. A third-party character saving him would amount to third-party interference in the match, so I don't think that's allowed.
Technically, she doesn't interfere in the match, she just assures that the character survives until it. Plus it allows on-profile companions, so why not?
Also not sure how she would safe him from just tripping, hitting his head and dying. There's not really an identifiable threat there.
The threat I'm talking about is just thinking/feeling you are in danger. When he trips and is about to hit his head, he is in danger and it will trigger the fragment
I also don't think fate outhaxes probability. At least not unless fate is established to bend causality, instead of being of the probability kind of fate type.
Well his luck description says that it only works if the probability is not 0, but Masayuki's fate can bring 0 to 1, so I don't really know here

Another question: his profile says he never loses, but who determines what is loss? Is it him or from a global perspective? Because if it's him, SI might work regardless of his luck
Does he actually have offensive magic of that sort, though? His profile says he has magic and then fails to specify any single magical attack. If his magic is just on grounds of having magic power that may in practice not work.
It applies to his rapier, but is mostly a placeholder. The benefits part already kinda covers it
There is also the thing where if the ghost is exorcised it still reappears shortly after due to the curse.
Shouldn't it also have Imo8 then?
Eh, I guess mind hax is technically an option.
One of the reasons I even proposed him
That is only if over a huge range, like if you met it on the internet. At close range it's lethal way faster. And Masayuki has no way to get rid of it without getting into lethal range.
At close range it is also described as a gradual process. Which is more than enough for Mind hax and aura. Plus Chosen One works in a pretty good range, so might not even have to get that close
 
This guy for 7-C. Has timestop that can basically end any fight within seconds. Along with pretty nice heat shenanigans.
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wang wei still is in 5B despite being a smurf and Neo can take his spot maybe even higher ata has no resistance to neo concept hax.
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castlevania lost their plot hax should be lower than destiny characters now.
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I think Neo can overtake Saiki in 5-B because he hard counters pretty much everything and his plot manip seems to have absolutely no offensive capabilities so it's essentially a huge nothingburger for vs matches. Could probably stomp Meng Chuan too.
 
Pretty much what MGQ said. Additionally, I'm nominating Neo for the third spot in 7-C as well, as I don't really see anything anyone in the third spot and below could do to Neo with his absurd regen, and resistance list (which should be much larger ngl).
 
Normally I'd bring up Warcraft but... wait...

Neo has the world's most basic heat resistance.

By fire be ******* purged, he's getting smoked by Ragnaros and incapped via heat the moment the fight starts because standing 4 kilometers away from the sun is still basically instant incap for a squishy human.
 
Normally I'd bring up Warcraft but... wait...

Neo has the world's most basic heat resistance.

By fire be ******* purged, he's getting smoked by Ragnaros and incapped via heat the moment the fight starts because standing 4 kilometers away from the sun is still basically instant incap for a squishy human.
...I don't see what stops Neo from also insta-capping the dude via his aura? Which not only can crush him (and probably kill him), but also nulls and fears him. Not only that, but even if Neo just got deleted, he can just... come back as pure death energy?

Nevermind the fact that his death aura can just insta-kill him, or the fact that he can just copy it, or just stop time via a thought, or the fact that his aura already nullifies flames and shit, or if the fight does eventually go on, he can just grow resistant to it lmao.

Hell, brother, he is already resistant to everything of a literal sun, and deleted it lol. The whole "page of resistances" are there just to put everything there, ie everything he already resists at his weakest level. That resistance continues to grow with each rank up.
 
...I don't see what stops Neo from also insta-capping the dude via his aura? Which not only can crush him (and probably kill him), but also nulls and fears him. Not only that, but even if Neo just got deleted, he can just... come back as pure death energy?

Nevermind the fact that his death aura can just insta-kill him, or the fact that he can just copy it, or just stop time via a thought, or the fact that his aura already nullifies flames and shit, or if the fight does eventually go on, he can just grow resistant to it lmao.

Hell, brother, he is already resistant to everything of a literal sun, and deleted it lol. The whole "page of resistances" are there just to put everything there, ie everything he already resists at his weakest level. That resistance continues to grow with each rank up.
Then give him resistance to the heat of the sun, because as it stands he passes out as soon as the fight starts, while Rag is fine cause he resists the fear, the power null, isn't an organic thing so Death is debatable

Also, this man is baseline, anything AP like that aura isn't going to work on someone 10x baseline lol
 
Then give him resistance to the heat of the sun,
His resistance tabs already state (all previous resistances massively enhanced), and his ap itself has him fighting against a sun and not being affected by it. But sure, it is ambiguous, so let's not count it if you want.
because as it stands he passes out as soon as the fight starts
He comes back as pure death energy (which you haven't given a response to), and eventually grows resistant to it (also, passes out? Brother, dude is always conscious even when dead).
while Rag is fine cause he resists the fear,
Unless he has 4 layers of resistances (it's probably 5 to be honest), then no, he doesn't.
the power null
Check the above.
isn't an organic thing so Death is debatable
Dude already insta kills Statues, actual plays/ideas/concepts, and killed a sun brother, I don't know what else to tell you.
Also, this man is baseline, anything AP like that aura isn't going to work on someone 10x baseline lol
True, forgot that. Though he'd still get crushed, or get killed by Neo's Death aura.
 
His resistance tabs already state (all previous resistances massively enhanced), and his ap itself has him fighting against a sun and not being affected by it. But sure, it is ambiguous, so let's not count it if you want.
Just make le CRT and make it clear
He comes back as pure death energy (which you haven't given a response to), and eventually grows resistant to it (also, passes out? Brother, dude is always conscious even when dead).
Prove it would kill him not just knock him out
Was this accepted in a CRT?
Dude already insta kills Statues, actual plays/ideas/concepts, and killed a sun brother, I don't know what else to tell you.
Which requires consciousness, it seems.
True, forgot that. Though he'd still get crushed, or get killed by Neo's Death aura.
Which is active.

Also, why's he 5-B? If he's deleting suns he should be 4-C.
 
Just make le CRT and make it clear
I will once I make the next key (and once the current crt gets accepted, holy shit its taking a while)
Prove it would kill him not just knock him out
??? What are you even talking about here? Prove that he would just get knocked out when confronted with the heat of the sun or...? Nevermind the fact that his willpower/mental resistances is quite literally infinite in potency, so good luck affecting anything mental wise (also bro, brother can think even when dead and no body, why are you talking as if knocking his body out is somehow more effective than him being dead and thinking).
Was this accepted in a CRT?
Yes.
Which requires consciousness, it seems.
Not sure what you're trying to imply here. Is it still about the whole "he'll get knocked out" thing, when... he wouldn't???
Also, why's he 5-B? If he's deleting suns he should be 4-C.
Literally directly stated in his profile, his punches and stuff destroy planets, but his death stuff has EE and range. It's not an actual AP.
 
Also, for 7-B, apparently Arifureta guys are outdated rn. Tho assuming they stay for whatever reason, what are the characters representing it? Neo got his Concept shenanigans upped to Type 2 (for now).
 
Also, for 7-B, apparently Arifureta guys are outdated rn. Tho assuming they stay for whatever reason, what are the characters representing it? Neo got his Concept shenanigans upped to Type 2 (for now).
Once the profiles are updated they should have a couple of layers of resistance to Law/CM2 Info(1&2) and Death hax.


I'm fine with Neo taking the first spot or sharing it.(For now)
 
When did that upgrade happen? Got the link?
The High 1-A upgrade happened here. Ark must have resurrection and type 8 immortality, that are depends on the real world. (which is accepted as 1 layer into High 1-A atm) via Kamen Rider Physiology. It's not on their profile, because Zero-One profiles are heavily outdated (just like 90% of the verse pages, aside from Showa and early series Geats profiles). As for the updated calcs, they will be applied once the revisions come out.
 
Uhhh, with the topic of 5-B being brought up, I remembered something.
I propose the Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken verse for spot 1 in 5-B. To even have a chance of beating anyone of that level in Tensura, you have to have both IM2 and CM1, which none in the top have

Sorry to people who were aiming at this spot
 
Uhhh, with the topic of 5-B being brought up, I remembered something.
I propose the Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken verse for spot 1 in 5-B. To even have a chance of beating anyone of that level in Tensura, you have to have both IM2 and CM1, which none in the top have

Sorry to people who were aiming at this spot
yeah no the ergenverse guys have type 1 concpet hax gon have 30 layers of concept hax. They are not talking 1st spot.
 
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