Liam Sternberg vs The Incredible Hulk (Hero's Oath vs MCU) (2-0-0)

[ThePrimalHunter]

Liam Sternberg (Hero's Oath) vs Hulk (Marvel Cinematic Universe)

Rules:

• 7-A Avengers Hulk is used
• 7-B Post-Surgery Liam Sternberg is used
• Speed is equal
• Fight takes place in front of the MCU white house (Same area where Sam Wilson fought Red Hulk)
• Hulk is bloodlusted

Hulk is >348.87 Megatons of TnT & 30,025 Tons of Force
Liam is 50.2 Megatons of TnT (150.6 Megatons of TnT with enhanced punches & sollertia) & 211,950,000 Tons of Force

Hulk has a >6.95x AP Advantage (a >2.32x AP advantage against his enhanced punches & sollertia)
Liam has a 7,059.12x LS Advantage

Sum of the debate: Hulk has a crazy AP & durability advantage that he can increase through rage while Liam has an obsurd LS & skill edge

Who Wins?

"I want to wipe out 50% of the population": 2 (Primal, Volt12121)
"I've heard that one before": 0 ()
Inconclusive: 0 ()

 

[SSB64]

Rooting for Hulk here.

Also, watching.

 

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I'll start the debate off by giving some arguements for Liam

I think there are 3 major arguements you can make for Liam winning this despite the AP difference

1: Lifting Strength

Hulk's AP advantage is insane, but it is only 1 of 2 strength categories. Lifting Strength is also incredibly important in matches like this, and Liam curbstomps Hulk in that regard with a 7,000x LS advantage. To put this into perspective, baseline Average Human LS & ripping out a human spine is 2,020x LS difference. So Liam's LS is unironically high enough that he could just pull a Shao Kahn fatality on Hulk. If this match gets into a grapple or if Liam can get a good chokehold on Hulk, it's probably over

2: Skill

Liam is WAY more skilled here, as Hulk wouldn't get his martial arts training until Sakaar, and Liam has such broken martial arts that he can read your stance & instantly deduce what fighting styles you know & what you'll do before the fight even starts. Hulk's not unskilled, as he has faught with people like Thor & Iron Man, but Liam still holds the skill edge here by a wide margin

3: Range & Additional Abilities

Liam has significantly better range with his projectiles, and could just keep Hulk at a distance. The AP difference might also be somewhat negated, as Liam can absorb a huge amount of the energy from the strikes & use it to make himself stronger. With his insane damage reduction through KE absorbtion & the sollertia field, pressure points he could still use to hurt or even paralyze the Hulk, his insane AnPr that makes him almost impossible to hit, and his ability to amp his strikes makes be believe that the AP difference might not be as much of a killer as it seems

Now, I do still think that Hulk has a chance here through his vastly better AP & his rage power, which will only make him stronger & harder to hurt. Liam's sollertia will only be able to take so many 7-A punches before it breaks, and those 7x stronger punches on an exposed Liam will end the fight extremely quickly

Not voting anyone yet, I just wanted to get the discussion started

 

[SSB64]

Liam's LS is unironically high enough that he could just pull a Shao Kahn fatality on Hulk. If this match gets into a grapple or if Liam can get a good chokehold on Hulk, it's probably over

I'm not the one who will be arguing for Hulk here, but I do want to quickly point out how without the AP advantage, he can't really strangle Hulk too effectively.

 

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Update to the match: Liam got upgraded to 7-A, and now actually has higher AP than the Hulk

This match can still happen, but I think it's now a decisive victory for Liam. Hulks best advantage was just stripped away, and Hulk wouldn't have much of an answer to Liam's martial arts skill and powerful abilities

I'm going to vote Liam

 

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[Volt12121]

Voting Liam fra

 

[ThePrimalHunter]

Voting Liam fra

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