Star Wars canon: Going to the gym.

[Phsccarvalho]

Hello.

Honestly, there's not much to say.

Spoiler: LS

Currently, we have this in LS for Force Users:

Peak Human naturally. Can be augmented to Superhuman levels thanks to Force Amplification. Class M with telekinesis.

It will look like this:

Peak Human naturally. Can be augmented to Class M with Force Amplification and Telekinesis.

The reason? The Force is UES. We kind of already do this for all the other statistics, so for some reason LS was left out.

Spoiler: Removing some of Vader's weaknesses

Weaknesses: Darth Vader is vulnerable to electric attacks of sufficient strength due to being a cyborg, and he cannot use Force Lightning (He can shield himself with the force and also modify his suit against this but strong enough electric attacks can still kill him, such as Darth Sidious'), his suit acts as a life support system and he will die if removed from it, the control panel on his chest is a weak-spot that can easily be damaged. Vader's suit lacks mobility due to its design and the nature of his injuries beforehand.

Basically, what's in red will be removed.

Regarding electricity, he already has resistance, and seriously, electricity that increases a character's resistance can kill him; that's not a weakness.

And about the loss of mobility, well, it was added without a crt, and besides... it doesn't happen.

Spoiler: Adding some scans

Scan 1 - Adding this to the Force (canon) page. In addition, I'll include in the justification the whole thing from the first sentence about the Force being a reality, etc.

Scan 2 - Adding this to the lightsaber combat blog. I'll also put some quotes from this scan on the page.

Scan 3 - Adding to the lightsaber page that Darth Vader's lightsaber is the most powerful.

Votes:

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Agree: (2) @LordTracer, @DarkDragonMedeus

Neutral: (0)

Disagree: (0)

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

yummy followung

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

following

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Makes sense to me.

 

[Random-Helper323]

I think the fact that his suit can actually be shut down or hindered by things that he himself can resist still constitutes a weakness to some extent. The loss of mobility is pretty infamous, but nowhere near as bad as people tend to think it is.

 

[Nonynho]

Agree to all of this

 

[LordTracer]

Peak Human naturally. Can be augmented to Class M with Force Amplification and Telekinesis.

Extremely minor, but this should be formatted as ‘up to Class M with Force Amplification and Telekinesis‘

Everything else is fine.

 

[Doggo]

Agree

 

[Phsccarvalho]

I think the fact that his suit can actually be shut down or hindered by things that he himself can resist still constitutes a weakness to some extent. The loss of mobility is pretty infamous, but nowhere near as bad as people tend to think it is.

Vader can move around using the Force, even with his suit turned off.

“All those who realized that Vader’s suit was necessary to keep him alive sometimes made the mistake of thinking that this fact weakened him. While it was true that the terrible wounds caused by Kenobi on Mustafar meant Vader could no longer live without the aid of the respirator, his power in the Dark Side of the Force surpassed any physical limitation. Even if an ion grenade or some other device temporarily deactivated Vader’s cybernetic armor, his ferocity of spirit was compensated by the Force. The diabolical scientist Cylo learned this the hard way, for he believed he had defeated Vader by deactivating the suit’s total-shutdown switch at the moment of its original manufacture… when that was by no means enough to stop him; Vader killed him immediately for his treachery.”

-[Book] Star Wars: El Lado Oscuro (page 64/65)

hindered by things that he himself can resist

I didn't understand that part. Could you give an example?

Extremely minor, but this should be formatted as ‘up to Class M with Force Amplification and Telekinesis‘

Everything else is fine.

I just followed what was on the page; if that's the right way, then that's fine.

 

[Random-Helper323]

If the suit's life support fails in response to an attack he'd survive and he dies as a result, that's still a weakness.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Kanan and Ezra lift Lothal Jedi Temple

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Vader can move around using the Force, even with his suit turned off.

I didn't understand that part. Could you give an example?


I just followed what was on the page; if that's the right way, then that's fine.

He also managed to repair his own suit with the Force:

 

[Phsccarvalho]

If the suit's life support fails in response to an attack he'd survive and he dies as a result, that's still a weakness.

But that's already part of Vader's weaknesses, and I'm not removing that aspect.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Vader can move around using the Force, even with his suit turned off.

I didn't understand that part. Could you give an example?


I just followed what was on the page; if that's the right way, then that's fine.

 

[Phsccarvalho]

Imgur doesn't work

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Imgur doesn't work

Truck!

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Imgur doesn't work

Let's try again:

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Imgur doesn't work

Fine Imgur, don't cooperate, I'll just post the images straight to here:

 

[Nonynho]

Bump

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

OP makes sense to me.

 

[Ruby_R_Dracula]

yey

 

[Phsccarvalho]

OP makes sense to me.

DDM, could you unlock the Force (canon) page?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

DDM, could you unlock the Force (canon) page?

@DarkDragonMedeus

 

[Qawsedf234]

As a note, a UES doesn't actually include lifting strength by default, just AP and Striking Strength. You have to prove that they can enhance their physicals to the same degree as their telekinesis for that to work.

Are there any physical feats in Star Wars that supports such a claim? Because nothing I've seen given supports that notion.

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

Are there any physical feats in Star Wars that supports such a claim?

They are able to clash with General Grievous, who can produce such forces: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/General_Grievous'_Striking_Power

 

[Qawsedf234]

They are able to clash with General Grievous, who can produce such forces: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Hagane_no_Saiyajin/General_Grievous'_Striking_Power

Alright, that's fine with me then

 

[Phsccarvalho]

As a note, a UES doesn't actually include lifting strength by default, just AP and Striking Strength. You have to prove that they can enhance their physicals to the same degree as their telekinesis for that to work.

Are there any physical feats in Star Wars that supports such a claim? Because nothing I've seen given supports that notion.

This is the first time I've dared to do that.

Alright, that's fine with me then

Wow, Grievous' calculation came in handy.
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While we're at it, could you unlock the Force page?

 

[Qawsedf234]

While we're at it, could you unlock the Force page

Unlocked

 

[Phsccarvalho]

OP makes sense to me.

Extremely minor, but this should be formatted as ‘up to Class M with Force Amplification and Telekinesis‘

Everything else is fine.

Unlocked

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