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no it is not. Tensei slime guys have nothing to beat erg verse guys.
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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0
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they do the list has no been updated yet. Only reason bastard characters was above was cause of their type 1 concpet hax but ergnverse got concept hax in lower tiers as well.
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So the fact that they can't even interact with Tensura characters and they will just IM2 them freely means nothing?
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yes IM2 is not end all be all. Ergenverse guys haxes have more layers/
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Can I see the scans of it requiring to have IM2 and CM1 to affect them? Are they made up of CM1 and IM2 or is it a barrier or what?
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its because they have IM 2 abstract existence
Species (Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken)
Spiritual Lifeforms are characters in Tensei Shitara Slime Datta Ken, they are almost god-like existences that need only their mind to remain alive. They're a step above Demi-Spiritual Lifeforms and have transcended the body entirely, making them effectively immortal they are also known as...
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I perfectly know that it isn't end to all, but it doesn't matter how many hax you have if those can't even affect the target. I also didn't notice anything Law related on the example profile, meaning they can just restrict her movement and incap (even if we think they don't just kill her outright)
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Can't you technically just target the concept portion? Since they have cm and laws, can't they just affect those aspects? Can tensei characters exist without those aspects?
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They can't, to reach these aspects of their existence you need to affect the Core which is this
You basically can't do shi without IM2 to Tensura characters
Some yes, but not all
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@BestMGQScalerEver I highly doubt that these are applicable to 5B characters, I can stand corrected with an example though
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By that logic, assuming someone has im2 (no concept type 1), can't they destroy the soul then? Or at least affect it without really caring about the concept?
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Neo Hargraves vs Gongsun Wan'er (Battle for 2nd Strongest 5-B Non-Smurf)
Yea. Both in 5-B key, speed equalized, and other SBA. You get the drill. Gongsun Wan'er: Neo Hargraves: Incon:
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That is actually wrong due to thisNeo Hargraves vs Gongsun Wan'er (Battle for 2nd Strongest 5-B Non-Smurf)
Yea. Both in 5-B key, speed equalized, and other SBA. You get the drill. Gongsun Wan'er: Neo Hargraves: Incon:vsbattles.com
Demigods are not 5B, so their feats are not applicable
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Hm. She seems to be demigod level when she absorbs enough then. So I guess no law stuff.
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That would be the case if the whole verse didn't have CM1 barriers
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Btw whats the reason the core is a type 1 concept instead of type 3?
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Yeah actually, it feels super weird for everyone and their mother to have some concept type 1 shenanigan. But meh, Isekai versed are weird (
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Great Spirits being responsible for every concept in the verse, every concept is them at the end of the day
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Why dont cores just participate in great spirits who are type 1 rather than being the type 1 concept themselves.
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Both kinda, this shi is weird, but somehow works
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Ah, finally remembered the reasoning: skills, which are CM1 stem from the core
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Got it.
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The reason why Bastard characters are at the top is that to do basically anything them you need extradimensional/interdimensional range as their body, mind and soul (concept) all exist within separate dimensions, and if you don't kill/destroy all three at once, they can regenerate completely from it all
Also yeah I did misremember the power scale, so she's not demigod, but it doesn't really change anything about the neo match anyways, I'm not gonna really argue against Tensura rn
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Neo should just swap places with Saiki in 5-B. He comfortably stomps speed equal since Saikis plot manip is kinda useless.
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Yeah, I'm thinking of giving Saiki an revision to improve a few things (PM included). I'm fine with Neo sharing a place with Saiki, since Saiki speedblitz if speed is not equalised.
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Eh if the PM is not passive and instant, nor does it do much, then Saiki kinda just gets fear + crushed to the ground + powernull via his aura. If he doesn't die from this, Neo can just... literally think, and he dies via death manip.
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Hmm..
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I mean the speed difference is 861614.193x in Saiki's favour, so Saiki's precognition will activate and warn him of danger (it is passive) so Saiki can teleport out of danger range. PM is passive, but currently not the best (it really needs to be improved).
Resist Fear hax. Technically Saiki should scale to 8.2506402e25kg which is Class Y which is 82.506402x more than what Neo scales. Saiki resists Power Null 1 layer, I plan to upgrade it to more, and his aura can cover other auras.
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His hax are currently 4 layers. Also he resists precog on same level.
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All of them? That's crazy. Then I'm fine with Neo taking Saiki's place.
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ye pretty much cultivation logic where higher stage is completely immune to lower ones in all respects
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no.
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I think Neo Hargraves can be at the first spot on 7-B, since Arifureta is not updated, and Neo can currently beat them, I think. And a supporter said it's fine.
Also, I'm nominating him for a spot in 7-C. I think he comfortably gets the third spot. As for the second, iirc these are the characters with history shenanigans (going to the past and kill, etc...)? If so, Neo can't really beat them unless his aura shenanigans can help (and he's getting Acausality type 1 soon, if that helps)
Also, I'm nominating him for a spot in 7-C. I think he comfortably gets the third spot. As for the second, iirc these are the characters with history shenanigans (going to the past and kill, etc...)? If so, Neo can't really beat them unless his aura shenanigans can help (and he's getting Acausality type 1 soon, if that helps)
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The On A Godless Planet characters don't do past shenanigans, no. They just have omni-resistance and unnegatable hax at a higher tier.
What exactly does the guy do which gets him past all the 7-B and 7-C people? What's his starting move and stuff?
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Ah so a lot of layers? Are they the ones with 20+ layers, or am I mistaking it with another series?
As for Neo does, mostly aura that passive fears and paralyzes/crushes (?), and cause those with lower resistances to just lose consciousness. Then he has thought-based death manip (that applies the concept of death on you and forces you to die, with it working on both organic and inorganic stuff), Thought-Based EE as well, powernull (not thought-based), time stop and devouring it, aura of absorption, and death too. Oh and, he just, doesn't die lmao. He has like Mid-Godly level of regen/resurrection (soon to be High-Godly), and has infinite potency in terms of mind shenanigans (doesn't do mind stuff, just resistance), and can just will himself to die, so Incap is kinda hard unless you have higher layers and just keep crushing him (though that might change in the future).
Has quite a bit of resistances (time stop, death, concept (type 2) and Law, all his abilities, etc...), with all of them being layered. Granted, the peak layering is like, 4 layers for this rank.
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14 "layers" for Yomoji (I don't like the layer idea, though, due to its imprecision). However, there is also special quality and mechanics to consider on top.
So far, Karuna can match that pretty much 1 to 1.
That's better than Karuna. On the other hand, Karuna has time reversal on death and the ability to steal all of the opponents powers instantly.
And Neo's resurrection only works 5 times? In that case, given his range, Darquesse is also a threat for him.
Fran... maybe. She boosts to blitzing speed, but it would depend on if Skill Taker can get her through the resurrection or if (possibly aided by regen, power null and his healing weakness) she can blitz him through his 5 resurrections.
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Were they accepted or what ?
