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[AlipheeseXIV]

Was asked about this matchup off site and am curious how it'd go myself since I'm not very knowledgeable on both verse's so here are the rules

• Fight starts 20m apart
• Battle takes place in Nazarick floors 1-3
• Everything else is SBA

Frieren

VS

Demiurge (Votes: 1)

 

[DaReaperMan]

Oh cool an Overlord match! Alright let's see and...

• No Soul or Mind damage resistance to speak of

Demiurge waves his hand once, GG!

Frieren's only saving grace here is that she resists Command Mantra... but Demiurge's OTHER main attack is freaking time stop!

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Oh cool an Overlord match! Alright let's see and...

• No Soul or Mind damage resistance to speak of

Demiurge waves his hand once, GG!

Frieren's only saving grace here is that she resists Command Mantra... but Demiurge's OTHER main attack is freaking time stop!

I figured the lack of soul and mind resistance would be an issue, but thought Frieren's 1 layer of forcefield & damage boost plus greater speed and AP could potentially make up for the difference. Also they should update the Overlord profiles lol will see if any Frieren supporters got anything to say ig.

Oh cool an Overlord match! Alright let's see and...

I will try and see if I can find more matchups for Overlord, or ask my one friend off site who requested this.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I figured the lack of soul and mind resistance would be an issue, but thought Frieren's 1 layer of forcefield & damage boost plus greater speed and AP could potentially make up for the difference.

Demiurge is a bonafide haxlord, pal, and Frieren can't one-shot Demiurge, so she's sorta screwed. Demiurge just has to TS her then ultra combo her to hell. Or hell, his Hellfire wall passed through Evileye with no damage, he just bypasses Frieren's barrier.

Also they should update the Overlord profiles lol

Demiurge is up to date, his scans are in his references lol.

I will try and see if I can find more matchups for Overlord, or ask my one friend off site who requested this.

Generally the three you want to avoid are Ainz, Demiurge, and Shalltear.

Also most of the non-level 100 profiles short of Gazef cause they haven't been updated.

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Demiurge is a bonafide haxlord, pal, and Frieren can't one-shot Demiurge, so she's sorta screwed. Demiurge just has to TS her then ultra combo her to hell. Or hell, his Hellfire wall passed through Evileye with no damage, he just bypasses Frieren's barrier.

Even with the layer they get from Zoltraak? I mean it seems plausible I guess, especially since it's never been shown how it holds up against fire iirc (at least in the anime)

Demiurge is up to date, his scans are in his references lol.

I didn't even realize this lol always thought the Overlord pages suffered from old formatting they kinda do but good to know for the future.

Generally the three you want to avoid are Ainz, Demiurge, and Shalltear.

Also most of the non-level 100 profiles short of Gazef cause they haven't been updated.

Well, I will find characters who resist most of their quick OHKO magic spells like grasp heart and the like or can live through it somehow. I think I can find some decent matchups honestly.

 

[DaReaperMan]

Even with the layer they get from Zoltraak? I mean it seems plausible I guess, especially since it's never been shown how it holds up against fire iirc (at least in the anime)

Forcefields are solid matter. Hellfire Wall passes through solid matter multiple times. Layers do not change that.

I didn't even realize this lol always thought the Overlord pages suffered from old formatting they kinda do but good to know for the future.

Just the person behind them not caring for new formatting.

Well, I will find characters who resist most of their quick OHKO magic spells like grasp heart and the like or can live through it somehow. I think I can find some decent matchups honestly.

Ainz debates start and end at "Do you resist death manipulation" and "Do you have a layer of Time Stop resistance" cause if the answer to either question is no, and you're Low 7-C or lower... just don't make the match. Ainz has stomped Reinhard Van Astra like five times, for instance.

Generally, just don't use Overlord haxlords, cause without the haxlord there's not usually much for them. Use like, Sebas or Cocytus or literally anyone but the haxlords lol

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

Forcefields are solid matter. Hellfire Wall passes through solid matter multiple times. Layers do not change that.

I figured since it works against magic hellfire passing through solid matter wouldn't change the fact it is a form of magic and thus susceptible to the barrier.

Just the person behind them not caring for new formatting.

Fair enough, this is typically the case with older profiles ig.

Ainz debates start and end at "Do you resist death manipulation" and "Do you have a layer of Time Stop resistance" cause if the answer to either question is no, and you're Low 7-C or lower... just don't make the match. Ainz has stomped Reinhard Van Astra like five times, for instance.

Generally, just don't use Overlord haxlords, cause without the haxlord there's not usually much for them. Use like, Sebas or Cocytus or literally anyone but the haxlords lol

Was kinda thinking of a matchup where they might resist some stuff like the death hax, but not the layer of time resistance but have higher durability to make up for it. It's pretty difficult to find a fair matchup for Overlord haxlords though yeah.

 

[DaReaperMan]

I figured since it works against magic hellfire passing through solid matter wouldn't change the fact it is a form of magic and thus susceptible to the barrier.

There's a difference between non-physical magic that targets mind+Soul and throwing a fireball at a fool.

Fair enough, this is typically the case with older profiles ig.

I mean Demiurge is a couple years old at this point, but not much to add to him that's been translated.

Was kinda thinking of a matchup where they might resist some stuff like the death hax, but not the layer of time resistance but have higher durability to make up for it. It's pretty difficult to find a fair matchup for Overlord haxlords though yeah.

There's a reason it's almost always just "Don't use Ainz". It's just like "Don't use Rimuru" and "Don't use Reinhard"

 

[AlipheeseXIV]

There's a difference between non-physical magic that targets mind+Soul and throwing a fireball at a fool.

I mean Demiurge is a couple years old at this point, but not much to add to him that's been translated.

There's a reason it's almost always just "Don't use Ainz". It's just like "Don't use Rimuru" and "Don't use Reinhard"

True.