Mira Yoo (Ragnarok) & TBV Boruto vs Kamen Rider Buffa & Tomura Shigaraki (Post-Surgery): Strangers and Freaks Tourney Match 4

[Shadowslash125]

A match that features a kamen rider! Shame I can't participate. Also Shiggy, I guess.
Wait, these guys have fought their partners before.

Rules

• (It should be obvious by now) Every stat (AP, Dura, Speed, etc) will be equalised
• Characters with immortality in any form only need to be killed once before being put out of commission for that match
• Characters who can regen can only do so once per match.
• Characters will only be given their standard equipment
• Both are in character, but willing to win.
• Win Condition is via incap or death.
• Everything else unmentioned will be according to SBA.

Fight takes place in...
Scyphozia, The First Layer
Distance is 1.4 kilometers.

Character-Specific Conditions

• Buffa Starts in Entry Form. The first actual form he transforms into is the stats that will be equalised with everyone else.

Votes:
Korean Sarada With Japanese Mori Jin (???): @DavidTPPM
A Raging Bull & Crusty Young Lad: @Dark_Soul20189
They get first layered:

 

[DavidTPPM]

So my main question is, how does Shigi synergize with Buffa?

Shigaraki is only really problematic because he forces Boruto and Mira to fly to not get hit by the spreading decay, but if Shigaraki starts by decaying the entire battlefield then Buffa doesn't really have a place to walk on either. Hell at worst he might accidentally decay Buffa as well since he's mainly a close range fighter meaning he should be trying to cqc the enemy.

 

[Shadowslash125]

I will try my best not to participate UNLESS no one is arguing for Buffa. Imma call the Shiggy Lads

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Buffa can start avoiding by slashing himself with command twin and start flying.

Getting the propeller buckle to start flying in the air

Or use boostriker to keep himself in the air

 

[Shadowslash125]

Getting the propeller buckle to start flying in the air

Propellor is optional tho. the rest are fine.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Propellor is optional tho. the rest are fine.

Propeller from fever buckle

 

[Shadowslash125]

Propeller from fever buckle

Ah forgor

 

[DavidTPPM]

So for mobility:
Boruto just straight up has true flight. Fighting in air is nothing new to him as it's a standard Otsutsuki ability, plus Boruto even has teleportation on top of it which allows him to port to objects he throws including his sword.

Mira can't physically fly but she can summon her red horse which flies by running on air. On top of that she has really good acrobatics and something like running on debris mid air is nothing new for her so she should be able to run on anything that's not actively decaying while avoiding the fingertips if necessary. Plus, Boruto is definitely going to give her a small object to teleport to her if necessary so even if she were to get into trouble he can save her by porting away.

As for usual combat strats:
Both Boruto and Mira are extremely cunning and strategic fighters. They will instantly analyze the situation and try to get in a spot where they can catch the opponent offguard. And when they do usually a single hit can be enough to incap the opponent. Especially Uzuhiko which even uncharged completely destroys your ability to destroy their sense of balance making the target basically incapable of fighting.
Furthermore they both have blitz tier speed amps and omnidirectional attack to avoid getting cornered and make landing hits easier

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Just to let you know, blitz speed amps is gonna help alot more for buffa since due to instant desire amps he will be matching speed regardless to both boruto and mira.

Buffa has tanked full on his same level of level force due to him using the command twin sword to charge it via hitting himself. so it will be difficult to incap.

 

[DavidTPPM]

Just to let you know, blitz speed amps is gonna help alot more for buffa since due to instant desire amps he will be matching speed regardless to both boruto and mira.

How fast are the amps? Like does he match them immediately and regardless of how fast they are or does it take a moment?

Because Mira has her own reactive evolution that let's her jump by blitz amounts as well.

Buffa has tanked full on his same level of level force due to him using the command twin sword to charge it via hitting himself. so it will be difficult to incap.

Maybe for Mira but Borutos Uzuhiko works very unconventionally. It perpetually sends the planets rotational energy into the targets body and throws off their balance to the point they can't even move in the direction they want to and instead keep falling on the ground.
And all Boruto needs to hit you with it is to touch you while his feet are touching the ground.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

The amps act as instantly. So the moment they tried to activate the amp he pretty much gets it.


However the main problem that is gonna to get in the way of uzuhiko is the fact that. They need to be on the ground which would be risking shigerakis decay on touching them

 

[DavidTPPM]

The amps act as instantly. So the moment they tried to activate the amp he pretty much gets it.


However the main problem that is gonna to get in the way of uzuhiko is the fact that. They need to be on the ground which would be risking shigerakis decay on touching them

Yeah killing Shigaraki is probably going to be their first step. He's the one mostly nerfing them.

But that honestly shouldn't be too hard. I don't see how Shigaraki stops Uzuhiko and once he's Uzuhikoed he's basically defenseless.

 

[Shadowslash125]

BTW isn't Shigaraki's first move usually to just decay the entire ground? That would cripple landlubbers a lot

 

[DavidTPPM]

BTW isn't Shigaraki's first move usually to just decay the entire ground? That would cripple landlubbers a lot

That's fine for Boruto ngl. Unless he completely erases the planet Boruto is going to port to him and rasengan him towards ground after he's already erased that part and then rasengan him from there.
Borutos first move against Jura was to snipe him from the sky and the rasengan him down


Tho the difference here is that each of those 2 hits would obliterate Shigarakis body as well (Jura was just so much stronger than Burrito here that he could no sell them) making Boruto landing a hit even easier.

 

[JoeDM021]

im assuming stats equalized but buffs to make themselves stronger/faster are allowed?

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Yes. But with kamen rider buffa desire amps are: your buffs are now mine

 

[JoeDM021]

Alright ion know why people think shiggy himself don't got good amps

He has reactive evolution which allows him to catch up to deku's speed when he was previously perception blitzing him hard

 

[Shadowslash125]

FINALLY WE HAVE A SHIGGY SUPPORTER

 

[JoeDM021]

and I think this has been brought up 2 million times in different posts but does the enemy team have anything to deal with shigaraki's flesh fortress? If the enemy team just touches one of those fingers they are cooked.

 

[DavidTPPM]

and I think this has been brought up 2 million times in different posts but does the enemy team have anything to deal with shigaraki's flesh fortress?

That's why I even talked about their flight and teleportation to begin with.

If the enemy team just touches one of those fingers they are cooked.

Also this brings me to an even more important question. Doesn't it have to be the fingertips of those fingers? Because that's how the ability worked in the part of MHA that I got to and I've seen scans of people running along the fortress without decaying.


And don't they have to be attached to the rest of the fortress/Shigi to actually move and work?

 

[JoeDM021]

Also this brings me to an even more important question. Doesn't it have to be the fingertips of those fingers? Because that's how the ability worked in the part of MHA that I got to and I've seen scans of people running along the fortress without decaying.


And don't they have to be attached to the rest of the fortress/Shigi to actually move and work?

It's because aizawa and the copy student were negating shigaraki's ability to decay so he couldn't decay anybody

 

[JoeDM021]

That's why I even talked about their flight and teleportation to begin with.

About this

Even if they could fly/teleport those fingers could grow in any direction so if for example boruto is flying in one direction

fingers could grow that way quickly and catch him off guard and decay him

plus they dont know that every single one of those fingers could use decay or even if shiggys ability comes from his fingers in the first place given he would likely decay the ground off go and the fact the starting distance is 1.2km they wouldnt see shiggy using his hands to activate decay

 

[DavidTPPM]

It's because aizawa and the copy student were negating shigaraki's ability to decay so he couldn't decay anybody

Sooooo what about the other stuff? Is he still limited to fingertips? And would cutting the fingers off make them not decay anymore?
I've also seen a scan that showed Deku saving himself by cutting off Shigis fingers slightly before they touched him and Shigi even noted that saved Deku but I'd rather ask to be sure

 

[JoeDM021]

Sooooo what about the other stuff? Is he still limited to fingertips? And would cutting the fingers off make them not decay anymore?
I've also seen a scan that showed Deku saving himself by cutting off Shigis fingers slightly before they touched him and Shigi even noted that saved Deku but I'd rather ask to be sure

Likely not limited to his finger tips given the stuff your referring to is a shigaraki way back then (iirc) he most likely can decay with his entire hand

 

[JoeDM021]

if there are any Kamen Rider Buffa supporters here what could he do to support shigaraki? just wondering

Cuz idk anything about the kamen rider verse

 

[DavidTPPM]

Likely not limited to his finger tips given the stuff your referring to is a shigaraki way back then (iirc) he most likely can decay with his entire hand

Wdym likely? You didn't finish MHA?

These are pretty major things which decide a lot ngl

 

[JoeDM021]

Wdym likely? You didn't finish MHA?

These are pretty major things which decide a lot ngl

I did finish all of mha

watched all the movies and seasons and read a bit of the manga

It's just that its been so long since I did watch previous seasons before 8 I'm going off what I remember although its an extremely high chance he can decay with his hands from what I'm remembering

 

[Shadowslash125]

if there are any Kamen Rider Buffa supporters here what could he do to support shigaraki? just wondering

Cuz idk anything about the kamen rider verse

Call in your brethren supporters first. I'm sure Tsukasaya will come and defend.

 

[JoeDM021]

Call in your brethren supporters first. I'm sure Tsukasaya will come and defend.

I am

your a kamen rider buffa supporter correct? can you at least tell me what he would typically do in battle and what abilities he has

 

[Shadowslash125]

your a kamen rider buffa supporter correct? can you at least tell me what he would typically do in battle and what abilities he has

I am, but I've taken a clause of neutrality so that I won't be biased for my series (it is my tourney after all). I'm pretty sure people like Mach would know since I did pit Buffa against Shiggy once, and he was there to defend shiggy.

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

if there are any Kamen Rider Buffa supporters here what could he do to support shigaraki? just wondering

Cuz idk anything about the kamen rider verse

He can help shigaraki decay someone by flying in with command twin and just choke hold them to shigerakis grippers

 

[DavidTPPM]

I did finish all of mha

watched all the movies and seasons and read a bit of the manga

It's just that its been so long since I did watch previous seasons before 8 I'm going off what I remember although its an extremely high chance he can decay with his hands from what I'm remembering

Okay so, his profile only mentions upgrades to his quirk being that he now doesn't need all 5 fingers and only 1 or 2 is enough, and that his range improved. So based on that and based on what I've seen, I'll conclude at least for now that he can't decay with cut off fingers and he is still restricted to fingertips

 

[JoeDM021]

Okay so, his profile only mentions upgrades to his quirk being that he now doesn't need all 5 fingers and only 1 or 2 is enough, and that his range improved. So based on that and based on what I've seen, I'll conclude at least for now that he can't decay with cut off fingers and he is still restricted to fingertips

ehh he can at least likely decay with his entire finger

although flesh fortress wouldnt exactly be considered "regeneration" cause he's generating the fingers rather then regenerating his fingers so technically he could give himself new fingers to decay with so his fingers being cut off isnt a problem

 

[DavidTPPM]

So that being said, it's only relevant for Mira ngl. For Boruto the flesh fortress is actually ideal.

Since it makes Shigaraki a massive target. Meaning Boruto can teleport literally anywhere near it and hit it with Uzuhiko which then spreads to the main body. In other words the fortress just makes Shigaraki an easier target to hit. And once he's hit with Uzuhiko he'll have to stop decaying entirely or he might accidentally hit Buffa or hell even himself

 

[JoeDM021]

So that being said, it's only relevant for Mira ngl. For Boruto the flesh fortress is actually ideal.

Since it makes Shigaraki a massive target. Meaning Boruto can teleport literally anywhere near it and hit it with Uzuhiko which then spreads to the main body. In other words the fortress just makes Shigaraki an easier target to hit. And once he's hit with Uzuhiko he'll have to stop decaying entirely or he might accidentally hit Buffa or hell even himself

what does uzuhiko do again

 

[TsukasayaEmmaDCD]

Should note that Buffa resist deconstruction and has mid-high regen as well.

 

[DavidTPPM]

ehh he can at least likely decay with his entire finger

although flesh fortress wouldnt exactly be considered "regeneration" cause he's generating the fingers rather then regenerating his fingers so technically he could give himself new fingers to decay with so his fingers being cut off isnt a problem

Yeah that's fine. Honestly only reason I'm bringing it up is because if he targets Mira and she somehow gets knocked off her horse she'll just cut up the fingers and use the separated ones as platforms to jump around and maneuver on.

what does uzuhiko do again

It permanently applies the earth's rotational forces into the targets body which gives them extreme levels of vertigo and destroys their sense of balance. It also seems to perpetually damage the targets entire body

 

[JoeDM021]

Yeah that's fine. Honestly only reason I'm bringing it up is because if he targets Mira and she somehow gets knocked off her horse she'll just cut up the fingers and use the separated ones as platforms to jump around and maneuver on.

It permanently applies the earth's rotational forces into the targets body which gives them extreme levels of vertigo and destroys their sense of balance. It also seems to perpetually damage the targets entire body

A kamen rider buffa supporter said above that he could resist deconstruction

Shigaraki can as well as there was a thread that passed which proved shigaraki can resist his own deconstruction so him or buffa being hit by deconstruction isn't a worry since both can resist it. Extreme Vertigo shouldn't be to much of a problem given shigaraki is able to deal with vision impairment before via using search so being extremely dizzy shouldnt be to hard to deal with. Also asking the OP here.. what version of shigaraki is this? is it the one that has all of deku's quirks? if so then he would also have danger sense and could dodge anyway

 

[JoeDM021]

also like i said they likely wouldnt know that shigaraki's fingers can use decay as i said before the starting distance is 1.2km and shiggy would likely use decay off go so they wouldn't know its shiggys fingers that activate decay

They would only be able to figure that out once they get in close combat which is extremely risky since at first they wouldn't know

 

[DavidTPPM]

A kamen rider buffa supporter said above that he could resist deconstruction

Actually from what I read in the Shigaraki vs Buffa thread it seems Buffas resistance doesn't really work for Shigis decon because they're fundamentally different (Buffas comes from poison turning you to mush while Shigarakis turns you into ash)

Shigaraki can as well as there was a thread that passed which proved shigaraki can resist his own deconstruction so him or buffa being hit by deconstruction isn't a worry since both can resist it.

Yeah I'm not saying he'll decon himself but that he'd swat himself away on accident, block his own path, etc. Just simply said hinder himself due to struggling to move how he actually wants.

Extreme Vertigo shouldn't be to much of a problem given shigaraki is able to deal with vision impairment before via using search so being extremely dizzy shouldnt be to hard to deal with.

Uzuhiko (and vertigo generally) doesn't just cause vision impairment. It destroys your internal sense of balance AND causes vision impairment on top of that.

Even fodders in Naruto can fight blind and yet Code who's one of the most skilled people in the verse (thx to how karma works) and yet Uzuhiko made him unable to even stands.

Also asking the OP here.. what version of shigaraki is this? is it the one that has all of deku's quirks? if so then he would also have danger sense and could dodge anyway

Boruto can hide his presence from sensory abilities so sensing aren't really helpful.

Tho more importantly again, sensing Boruto doesn't change that his balance will be so destroyed he won't even be able to stand up. It doesn't just make it hard to know where the opponent is but more importantly makes you moving towards where you want to go to nearly impossible