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Mavuika's Key Removal

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So let's just straight to the point, Mavuika's "Ronova Amp" key should be removed.
Currently she have this:
Tier: At least 4-A, higher with the Nightsoul's Blessing | Low 2-C with Divine Throne and the Ruler of Death's power
Key: Archon | Ronova Amp

She used Low 2-C source of Power which is Ronova, only for temporary or once, not like indefinitely.

The new one should be like this:
Tier: At least 4-A, higher with the Nightsoul's Blessing, Low 2-C with Divine Throne and the Ruler of Death's power
just removed the "|"
 
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I agree with this, if you don't mind me asking tho, how much CRTs are opened for Genshin atm?
 
I agree with this, if you don't mind me asking tho, how much CRTs are opened for Genshin atm?
Well idk, just look at the genshin tags.
(My crt for the shades arent even done because no mods got there even though i just need one more)
 
i mean the amp lasted significantly long, with only weakness being the fact she coudlnt sustain it for long which was unspecified literally, and she gets plethora of abilities too, i dont see a reason to remove it but you do you
 
i mean the amp lasted significantly long, with only weakness being the fact she coudlnt sustain it for long which was unspecified literally, and she gets plethora of abilities too, i dont see a reason to remove it but you do you
Not really that long though.. Only for like 15 minutes if i had to use my headcanon.

She activate it twice,
First is this moment right here


And the second is this moment where we purified the Obsidian Totems that represents the 6 Tribes and the Heroes.
 
Not really that long though.. Only for like 15 minutes if i had to use my headcanon.

She activate it twice,
First is this moment right here


And the second is this moment where we purified the Obsidian Totems that represents the 6 Tribes and the Heroes.

Isn't the second one a nightsoul amp? Iirc this was discussed before, i feel like the ronova one is only against gosoysoth (which is why i proposed this technically)
 
Isn't the second one a nightsoul amp? Iirc this was discussed before, i feel like the ronova one is only against gosoysoth
Nahh, thats different.

The six obsidian totems there are representing the six tribes and the six heroes. The lord of the night already made clear that the only way u could unlock ronova's power is through the six heroes.
 
Isn't the second one a nightsoul amp? Iirc this was discussed before, i feel like the ronova one is only against gosoysoth
how can nightsoul amp kill something that strictly needs shade amp to be defeated back in 5.1?
Not really that long though.. Only for like 15 minutes if i had to use my headcanon.

She activate it twice,
First is this moment right here


And the second is this moment where we purified the Obsidian Totems that represents the 6 Tribes and the Heroes.

doesnt matter, Ichigo has a key where he literally has one and only attack and never used it again bcs it makes him lose his powers and its indexed, i dont see the issue with mavuika having the same.
 
Ichigo has a key where he literally has one and only attack and never used it again bcs it makes him lose his powers and its indexed, i dont see the issue with mavuika having the same.
They buggin then.
Because, i dont really think that possessing a temporary buff should have a key.

Well, we'll see the mods thoughts.
 
Nahh, thats different.

The six obsidian totems there are representing the six tribes and the six heroes. The lord of the night already made clear that the only way u could unlock ronova's power is through the six heroes.
The six obsidian totems don't require Mavuika to offer anything to Ronova and its not like it's on the same level as the one used in 5.1

Capitano offered his life instead of Mavuika, that's the point of the entire "challenging the authority" stuff because Mavuika used the amp directly back in 5.1 and it was stated as one

Either way we don't even list it through 6 Obsidian Stones in the first place
how can nightsoul amp kill something that strictly needs shade amp to be defeated back in 5.1?

doesnt matter, Ichigo has a key where he literally has one and only attack and never used it again bcs it makes him lose his powers and its indexed, i dont see the issue with mavuika having the same.
Mugetsu key wasn't listed anywhere deadass
 
The six obsidian totems don't require Mavuika to offer anything to Ronova and its not like it's on the same level as the one used in 5.1

Capitano offered his life instead of Mavuika, that's the point of the entire "challenging the authority" stuff because Mavuika used the amp directly back in 5.1 and it was stated as one
Because the Lord of the Night already said that Mavuika will use Ronova's power UNTIL she manage to triumph over the Abyss. We know when we did triumph over the abyss, it was in act 5, not in act 4.

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Because the Lord of the Night already said that Mavuika will use Ronova's power UNTIL she manage to triumph over the Abyss. We know when we did triumph over the abyss, it was in act 5, not in act 4.

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Alr so like atleast 15 mins in the fight against Gosoysoth then she had to activate it with the six obsidian stones?
 
who said it and why would that be applicable? what just ignore it dont index it facking crazy
Because one-time stuff aren't able to be indexed, it had to be merged into one, separating the keys would mean you can use said thing in matchups

Like 6-B, Low 2-C through said thing but the said thing is only indexed, Mavuika is only 6-B technically as it's one-time + It's not like Venti who's implied to be able to use it indefinitely

The same with Ichigo, that one is High 6-A but separated as 4-B through Mugetsu which shouldn't technically and should be merged as one (with a note that, the Mugetsu one is not applicable in matchups as its one time)
 
Because one-time stuff aren't able to be indexed, it had to be merged into one, separating the keys would mean you can use said thing in matchups
either put this into one key or just dont index it, both are stupid so whatever im neutral
 
Shouldn't this also apply to the pyro archon who preceded Mavuika?
Currently, the only Pyro Archons that is known directly using Ronova's power was literally just the first one and the current one, which is Xbalanque and Mavuika.

Xbalanque already had that btw.
Tier: 6-B, higher with the Nightsoul's Blessing | 6-B, Low 2-C with the The Ruler of Death's Power, higher with the Nightsoul's Blessing | At least 6-B, higher with the Nightsoul's Blessing.

Key: Human | Pyro Archon | Resurrected
 
i think you could add a note that the tier 2 one cant be used for matchups, its just indexed in there basically since yk
I still can see that she still can use it for matchups, like if i had to use my headcanon, she can use it for like 10-15 minutes just like in the act 4 after we activated it, mavuika just in the sky using the power of it until the moment she finally ready to throw her beam towards gosoythoth.
 
The only Pyro Archon that can use Ronova's power indefinitely was only Xbalanque because that power is already become part of him. And he died not because of Ronova's power but because of Old Age. The more proof of it is that in Mavuika's Story Quest where Xbalanque got resurrected in the present day and he still had a small portion of Ronova's power within him, she offered his life force that contains Ronova's to Mavuika so that she can use it to resurrect her families but she rejected that.
 
I still can see that she still can use it for matchups, like if i had to use my headcanon, she can use it for like 10-15 minutes just like in the act 4 after we activated it, mavuika just in the sky using the power of it until the moment she finally ready to throw her beam towards gosoythoth.
and this is when it was used once, like if it was used in matchups, my point would that it would be used the second time and thats impossible (mavuika only used it for 1st time, but only for 15 minutes before she has to activate it with the six obsidian stones, and she cant use ronova's powers again after gosoysoth is destroyed and all this counts as the 1st time technically)

thats why i even brought like venti cause hes implied to like use it multiple times
 
The only Pyro Archon that can use Ronova's power indefinitely was only Xbalanque because that power is already become part of him. And he died not because of Ronova's power but because of Old Age.
allegedly because theres two three things that implied so.
 
Why are people trying to get Post-Dangai removed? It's not a temporary power-up. Mugetsu is a 1 time move that drains Ichigo's power (essentially a suicide attack), but Post-Dangai isn't and if he doesn't use Mugetsu, he could just stay in that state and fight. If he had beaten Aizen without Mugetsu, he wouldn't have suddenly lost his powers, he'd just be in that state.

These don't seem remotely comparable.
 
Not "trying to get removed" but they only using it as an Example.
Not a very good one tbh, Dangai Ichigo is permanent unless he uses Mugetsu. Doesn't wear off with time or regular use (unless Kubo decides it does in the future to **** us over or something)
 
Not a very good one tbh, Dangai Ichigo is permanent unless he uses Mugetsu. Doesn't wear off with time or regular use (unless Kubo decides it does in the future to **** us over or something)
in used it as example where character has one move that they used once and never again into story later
similar case is here with mavuika where she gets the amp for one time use and gets massively stronger and obtains several abilities
Neither seem like they should be removed for the reasoning of “they use it only once and never again”
 
Why are people trying to get Post-Dangai removed? It's not a temporary power-up. Mugetsu is a 1 time move that drains Ichigo's power (essentially a suicide attack), but Post-Dangai isn't and if he doesn't use Mugetsu, he could just stay in that state and fight. If he had beaten Aizen without Mugetsu, he wouldn't have suddenly lost his powers, he'd just be in that state.

These don't seem remotely comparable.
Not a very good one tbh, Dangai Ichigo is permanent unless he uses Mugetsu. Doesn't wear off with time or regular use (unless Kubo decides it does in the future to **** us over or something)
So if I'm correct, Mugetsu isn't listed on the key, yeah and Post-Dangai was listed because Mugetsu is like 1-time use. The problem here is that the key that's indexed is the 1-time use and not the former basically
 
So if I'm correct, Mugetsu isn't listed on the key, yeah and Post-Dangai was listed because Mugetsu is like 1-time use. The problem here is that the key that's indexed is the 1-time use and not the former basically
That's what it seems like from this thread, unless these power-ups are also permanent (which I'm currently presuming they're not based on the OP). If we were to compare this to Ichigo, it would be like if Mugetsu was it's own seperate key apart from Dangai Ichigo, which would obviously not work.

Now, if the boost was permanent and she just turned Ronova's power off herself and thus couldn't activate it again, then I might disagree. But if it just wore off, then yeah, it should just be indexed like Mugetsu as part of the previous key instead of a separate one.
 
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