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Anything about the battle cats. New thread, hope the verse thrive.
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Battle Cats Discussion thread
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I love the battle cats
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Anyways, what do yall think about these profiles? I'm also currently making fish cat's profile, but I don't know if I should scale Island cat to The Flying Cat's 6-C or just make him a 9-A to H8-C+ fodder. What do you guys think?
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Wondering if the actual statistics used to justify upscaling would be considered game mechanics, since IIRC they don’t exist in universe.Anyways, what do yall think about these profiles? I'm also currently making fish cat's profile, but I don't know if I should scale Island cat to The Flying Cat's 6-C or just make him a 9-A to H8-C+ fodder. What do you guys think?
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The upscaling justification here, it was accepted, only pending for the cosmology page to be accepted so it can be created:
The Battle Cats explanation page
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I've done all the hardest works already so it's pretty chill
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Neat
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Finally finished all of normal cat's profile, yall come take a quick look: https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Acertainbcplayer/Normal_Cats_profile
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Interesting
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Started doing the cyclones profiles, quite easy enough.
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Cyclone profiles
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nice
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Uh... I realized that High 6-A to 5-C cyclones would fit better... Cause yall know about their dps. I did the calc and was truly baffled by it, what do yall think?
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Strongest of cyclones
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normal enemies profiles (so far)
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Normal enemies profiles
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I forgot to post the verse page here, this is how it currently looks (not sure if I've updated it fully with what I'm working on, but it's pretty well updated)
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Battle Cats Verse Page (WIP)
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Lowkey need a building level feat for the upscaling rn
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Hello Acertainbcplayer, where is your message wall page? (On the Fandom wiki itself, not the forums like here.)
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My predictions for the profiles and tier placements of EoC Bosses and SoL Chapters 1-18 enemies (based on their stats):
9-B: Metal Hippoe, St. Pigge the 2nd
9-A: Shy Boy, Doge Dark, Master A, Celeboodle, Dagshund, Ahirunrun (that one duck enemy from Chaos Lagoon), Otta-smack-u, Gory Black, Shadow Boxer K, Rain D., Owlbrow, Assassin Bear, Metal One Horn
8-C: The Face, Dark Emperor Nyandam, Camelle, H. Nah
High 8-C: Teacher Bun Bun, THE SLOTH, J.K Bun Bun, Bore, Kory, Director Kurosawah, Bun Bun Black, R. Ost, Dober P.D., Sir Metal Seal
And presumably, Ururun Wolf (both the enemy and her Cat counterpart) scales to 8-A, right (since Ururun Wolf is used to measure whether a generalist Uber is good or not)?
9-B: Metal Hippoe, St. Pigge the 2nd
9-A: Shy Boy, Doge Dark, Master A, Celeboodle, Dagshund, Ahirunrun (that one duck enemy from Chaos Lagoon), Otta-smack-u, Gory Black, Shadow Boxer K, Rain D., Owlbrow, Assassin Bear, Metal One Horn
8-C: The Face, Dark Emperor Nyandam, Camelle, H. Nah
High 8-C: Teacher Bun Bun, THE SLOTH, J.K Bun Bun, Bore, Kory, Director Kurosawah, Bun Bun Black, R. Ost, Dober P.D., Sir Metal Seal
And presumably, Ururun Wolf (both the enemy and her Cat counterpart) scales to 8-A, right (since Ururun Wolf is used to measure whether a generalist Uber is good or not)?
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All legend bosses before Mecha Bun is 8-A+ material. I'm planning to put Mecha Bun at 6-C due to it being a weapon of the ancient that once ruled over earth, and has overwhelmingly more stats than all the legend bosses. Same reasoning as Cli-One.
Idi is crazily High 3-A material (with quite a short range). She literally has immeasurable combat energy, and was added a while after Filibuster.
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Predictions for Purchasable Special Cat profiles:
Boogie Cat would be 10-C, just like Cat.
Sumo Cat would also be in that same tier, just like Tank Cat.
The rest are at least 9-C to 9-B, with Zombie Cat, Kung-Fu Cat, and Cats In A Box being 9-A.
More specifically:
9-C: Ninja, Samurai, Bondage
9-B: Skirt, Panties, Dom, Actress, Mr.
9-A: Zombie, Kung-Fu, Cats In A Box.
All evolved forms are 9-B, with the exception of Zombie, Kung-Fu, and Cats In A Box, which are already 9-A from the get-go.
And all purchasable Special Cat True Forms are 9-A at best, as all of them have subpar stats anyways (to the point that they struggle to deal with anything in stages harder than Veteran), with Ultimate Bondage Cat being one of the worst cats in the game pre-Talents. compared to the True Form Rares and super Rares, which would actually have the stats to deserve the High 8-C to 8-A rating.
Boogie Cat would be 10-C, just like Cat.
Sumo Cat would also be in that same tier, just like Tank Cat.
The rest are at least 9-C to 9-B, with Zombie Cat, Kung-Fu Cat, and Cats In A Box being 9-A.
More specifically:
9-C: Ninja, Samurai, Bondage
9-B: Skirt, Panties, Dom, Actress, Mr.
9-A: Zombie, Kung-Fu, Cats In A Box.
All evolved forms are 9-B, with the exception of Zombie, Kung-Fu, and Cats In A Box, which are already 9-A from the get-go.
And all purchasable Special Cat True Forms are 9-A at best, as all of them have subpar stats anyways (to the point that they struggle to deal with anything in stages harder than Veteran), with Ultimate Bondage Cat being one of the worst cats in the game pre-Talents. compared to the True Form Rares and super Rares, which would actually have the stats to deserve the High 8-C to 8-A rating.
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Important question: Would solar cat be solar system level or not?
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Most likely not, considering that this would upscale the Super Rares and Uber Rares way too much. And Solar System R. Ost and Bore would be considered just wank.
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Not really, cats with lore supporting them doesn't rely nor partake in the chainscale, or else all super rares would be Large Island level upscaling from bullet train cat.
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Okay, have you tried uploading the Battle Cats verse page as well as the profiles for the cats and the enemies (which are blog posts you made on the VSBA wiki) to CSAP first?
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Verse page is still WIP so no, not yet. I'm also waiting for stuff to get accepted here first before caring about other wikis too.
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Predictions for SoL 19-28 enemies profile (No aliens):
9-B: Wall Doge, Trolly Blogger
9-A: Gabriel, Heavenly Hippoe, Ginger Snache, Pigeon De Sable, Metal Doge,
8-C: Super Metal Hippoe, Angelic Gory, Dark Otter, Chickful A
High 8-C:Angelic Sleipnir, Le'noir, Capy, Brollow*, Berserkory, Two Can
8-A: Cyberface, Sunfish Jones, Lil' Nyandam, Berserkory, Codename "Red Riding"
Yes, I know Cyberface (dies in 1 hit to any critter) and Brollow are Glass Cannons. But I feel like their damage borders more on the capabilities of High 8-C enemies (8-A in Cyberface's case)
Okay, I'll make an 8-C ranking for The Face, Dark Emperor Nyandam, Camelle, and H. Nah, by the way. I'll update that ranking.
9-B: Wall Doge, Trolly Blogger
9-A: Gabriel, Heavenly Hippoe, Ginger Snache, Pigeon De Sable, Metal Doge,
8-C: Super Metal Hippoe, Angelic Gory, Dark Otter, Chickful A
High 8-C:Angelic Sleipnir, Le'noir, Capy, Brollow*, Berserkory, Two Can
8-A: Cyberface, Sunfish Jones, Lil' Nyandam, Berserkory, Codename "Red Riding"
Yes, I know Cyberface (dies in 1 hit to any critter) and Brollow are Glass Cannons. But I feel like their damage borders more on the capabilities of High 8-C enemies (8-A in Cyberface's case)
Okay, I'll make an 8-C ranking for The Face, Dark Emperor Nyandam, Camelle, and H. Nah, by the way. I'll update that ranking.
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Cyberface is a metal, and well, metals are not really glass cannons tbh, Cyberface would literally be 8-A+ because his damage dwarfs even the bosses, and well, his lore is like this:
A relic of humanity's final war, this cyborg
crushes all to dust with enhanced jaw strength.
Seems to float, but actually scampers around
on a dozen plasma legs invisible to the eye.
So yeah.
And not that metal enemies's durability matters anyways, they have damage negation to turn all damage to 1 if not a crit (which was accepted by the way).
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I'd change your ratings a lil bit:
Beserkory could be 8-A+ because he has a crazy amount of hp, and remember that he can cause super long wave attacks each deals as much damage as the SLOTH. And well, that would make Kory worthy of H8-C+ too. I remember that he's also quite crazy in the manga (not that I've got a panel of him attacking, but he supposedly can hit the cat base from extreme range with just a slice)
Beserkory could be 8-A+ because he has a crazy amount of hp, and remember that he can cause super long wave attacks each deals as much damage as the SLOTH. And well, that would make Kory worthy of H8-C+ too. I remember that he's also quite crazy in the manga (not that I've got a panel of him attacking, but he supposedly can hit the cat base from extreme range with just a slice)
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And now for the Aliens (both regular and Starred):
9-A: Shibalien, Kroxo
8-C: Hyppoh, Imperator Sael, Maawth, LeMurr, Helmut Krabbe, Elizabeth the LVIth, Scissoroo, Mistress Celeboodle
High 8-C: I.M Phace, Ursamajor, Cyberhorn, Calamary, Shibalien Elite, Project A, Corporal Weyland, UltraBaaBaa, Kid Tappa, Ribbo, Gardeneel Bros.
8-A: Elder Sloth, Alpacky, Star Peng, General GreGory, Le'Solar, Spacefish Jones, Mesocosmocyclone
6-C: Nimoy Bore, Cli-One, Galactic Overseer Nyandam, Corrupted Valkyrie, Bun Bun Symbiote, Le' Solar, Spacefish Jones, Axoloty
5-B: Raging Bahamut Cat
High 3-A: Filibuster Obstructa
The problem with scaling Mesocosmocyclone is that it is not considered a normal-sized Cyclone, and therefore, cannot be scaled to High 6-A just like you would do with the large Cyclones which are meant to be bosses. The game however, uses Mesocosmocyclones the same way it typically uses things like Lil' Bun Buns and Dark Otters in most stages they are used in.
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I think for the aliens, we could stats scaling them in general (besides Baha and Fili since they're built different, oh and the cyclones too obviously), so whoever got more stats (without treasures) than Cli-One will just upscale from 6-C (like how you did Axoloty), well, the only exception might be Nimoy bore since he appears before the final boss of chap 1 being Cli-One, what do you think about him?
Raging Baha is just A.Baha but is raging, so he should be 5-B the same as Baha.
Filibuster already got H3-A rating, I don't think Fili Obstructura is 2-C, unless I'm missing something?
For the advent enemies, their lore might shake the ratings a little (except for the aliens since they're built different), but overall it is good.
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Profilr predictions for purchasable Special Cats:
Did I do better?
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Quite, but I think overseer nyandam should also be 6-C tbh.
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So, how are these changes. Oh, and before you get working on making sure your Battle Cat profiles (as well as the verse page) get approved, here are my predictions on the Zombie Outbreak zombies:
9-A: Zoge, Znache, Zomboe, Zigge, Zackie Peng, Zory, Zir Zeal, Zroco, The Thrillerz, Zuche, Coffin Zoge
8-C: Zang Roo, Cadaver Bear, Zamelle, Zollow
High 8-C: Dread Bore, Li'l Zyclone, Zapy, Formicidaean Ariant, Lophiiformes Angaburu
8-A: Lord Gravey, Miss Haka, Deathshund
Did I do it right?
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How was it, Acertainbcplayer?
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I don't see why Lord Gravey and Miss Haka can't be 8-A, since they are zombie bosses with stats above Ururun. If Deathshund is 8-A so are they. The rest is fine
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Done.
How's the Battle Cats profiles going? Are they approved?
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Probably next year. The only problem rn is the Yamii and other elemental pixies calc, as well as most importantly the cosmology page. Not having that running means not having the explanation page running, which makes no profile running at all.
The only profiles that need to be accepted aren't gonna affect any other profiles in the game.
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By next year, you mean December next year? Today is December 19 (which means that there would be less than 2 weeks left until 2026.)
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It might even be that long, who knows
