Gojo powering a nation Re-Do

[Sammy818]

Here is where my problem lies right now. Even a Low 7-B end has too many assumptions to be useful. With his current tier he could already pull this off using the China end with a little bit of exertion per day. I'll use his most casual tier making feat to explain, and hypothetical assumptions of my own to explain this. If we consider his pumping out energy to be a very exhausting thing, we know Gojo has extremely casual feats that reach High 7-C [164.16 KT, which he did as a aura farm flex], which I will call 1 GU [Gojo Unit]

If he pumps out 1 GU per second for a for just half an hour, that generates in excess [1.236E18] of a day's worth of energy to the entirety of the country. Even if they think generating that much energy would be physically demanding like exercise for a normal person, the avg healthy person can do wayyy over 30 min of intense exercise per day if you spread it out. They can decide to space out the energy draining throughout the day if they're nice about it lol.

Even if they thought Gojo pumping out the energy to equivalent to a marathon of exertion [with the average marathon taking 4.5 hours to complete] could get over half a months worth of energy from one day [1.11266E19]. They could very well have been intending to break it into blocks where they take his energy, he is able to rest for a week, rinse and repeat, which still result in a net of energy independence for a lifetime.

Am I saying this what they were thinking, obviously not because we aren't given any significant information about how they would do this. But I am arguing that there are ways for them to do this that need less assumptions and don't change his tier. Hell, we don't even know how they planned to keep him captured.

Also the two arguments you have literally included “spreading it out” when that’s not how power would work, it’s not a singular system it’s the entire us power grid, it’s literally an all or nothing max output. You can’t compare powering a country to “spreading out an intense workout” or a marathon

 

[Sammy818]

if you’re going to say “le assumption” to any sort of critical thinking put towards this feat then it should just be unusable

 

[Rodriiogo]

Here is where my problem lies right now. Even a Low 7-B end has too many assumptions to be useful. With his current tier he could already pull this off using the China end with a little bit of exertion per day. I'll use his most casual tier making feat to explain, and hypothetical assumptions of my own to explain this. If we consider his pumping out energy to be a very exhausting thing, we know Gojo has extremely casual feats that reach High 7-C [164.16 KT, which he did as a aura farm flex], which I will call 1 GU [Gojo Unit]

If he pumps out 1 GU per second for a for just half an hour, that generates in excess [1.236E18] of a day's worth of energy to the entirety of the country. Even if they think generating that much energy would be physically demanding like exercise for a normal person, the avg healthy person can do wayyy over 30 min of intense exercise per day if you spread it out. They can decide to space out the energy draining throughout the day if they're nice about it lol.

The issue with this is that outputting CE drains sorceres even more than regular training, and they see this in the recordings. Even using the arguably longest fight in the series (Gojo VS Sukuna), the entire fight was simply around 30 minutes and both of their output was already diminishing drastically. A sorcerer outputting energy every single second would not last even close to 30 minutes, arguably not even 10. Just the use of infinity constantly already fries Gojo's brain to the point he needs to continuously RCT his brain and needs sweets to boost his brain so he can handle that. Outputting something like red, blue, any CE based attack every single second would drain gojo and straight up kill his brain in like 10 minutes.

Even if they thought Gojo pumping out the energy to equivalent to a marathon of exertion [with the average marathon taking 4.5 hours to complete] could get over half a months worth of energy from one day [1.11266E19]. They could very well have been intending to break it into blocks where they take his energy, he is able to rest for a week, rinse and repeat, which still result in a net of energy independence for a lifetime.

The timeframe used in the alternative way (1 min) is supposed to represent what they know about sorcerers stamina. Sorcerers fights last less than 10 minutes and they are already exhausted, sometimes completely out of CE after it, and they do see this in the recording as they saw the kyoto goodwill event fights.

Am I saying this what they were thinking, obviously not because we aren't given any significant information about how they would do this. But I am arguing that there are ways for them to do this that need less assumptions and don't change his tier. Hell, we don't even know how they planned to keep him captured.

That doesn't really matter considering the statement comes from Gojo's OUTPUT, so it's a thing he can do by himself, they literally word it as "he can handle the power needs of an entire country by himself".

Fair enough, I don’t want to make this more confusing, so I’ll modify what I said slightly. Even with brain damage, unable to open his domain, and dropping energy he is he’s still superior to special grades like Yuta and Hakari who are Town level. and they scale above the energy per second value for either calc. In other words a near braindead Gojo could still generate more energy than the minimum of the original calculation's second only value. Not to mention even if the government already had him captured and restrained, it’s not like they lose their previous stores of energy, and to use Gojo as a sole power source they'd have to redo some infrastructure. So I see no reason why draining him in bursts doesn't work if they are able to store his energy effectively, while allowing him to have breaks for sleep.

A braindead gojo would not be able to output energy every single second. He's dying in less than 10 minutes. And if other sorcerers were "enough" to output said energy they would point it out as they saw in the recordings. They SAW mechamaru's 5 year charges (which is what the top tiers currently scale to) yet they still think only Gojo would power the country. If the 5 year charge value was enough then Gojo wouldn't be as special.

The biggest takeaway is that if we can’t agree on the parameters of the calculation then it shouldn’t be usable for his tier. It's vague and we have no timeframe for any of this.

I think the best way is using the timeframe that the sorcerers are outputting CE during the kyoto goodwill event fights as the time that gojo would need to power the country before needing rest (hence the 1 minute) as that's what they saw in sorcerers' stamina.

 

[Legion350]

Also the two arguments you have literally included “spreading it out” when that’s not how power would work, it’s not a singular system it’s the entire us power grid, it’s literally an all or nothing max output. You can’t compare powering a country to “spreading out an intense workout” or a marathon

if you’re going to say “le assumption” to any sort of critical thinking put towards this feat then it should just be unusable

I'm aware it's for the entire grid, I was under the impression they would still need to store the energy collected from him, otherwise it kinda defeats the purpose. If the country is Gojo-powered then they still would need Gojo powered reserves, because there are things like ships and vehicles that do not use the power grid directly.

The issue with this is that outputting CE drains sorceres even more than regular training, and they see this in the recordings. Even using the arguably longest fight in the series (Gojo VS Sukuna), the entire fight was simply around 30 minutes and both of their output was already diminishing drastically. A sorcerer outputting energy every single second would not last even close to 30 minutes, arguably not even 10. Just the use of infinity constantly already fries Gojo's brain to the point he needs to continuously RCT his brain and needs sweets to boost his brain so he can handle that. Outputting something like red, blue, any CE based attack every single second would drain gojo and straight up kill his brain in like 10 minutes.


The timeframe used in the alternative way (5 mins) is supposed to represent what they know about sorcerers stamina. Sorcerers fights last less than 10 minutes and they are already exhausted, sometimes completely out of CE after it, and they do see this in the recording as they saw the kyoto goodwill event fights.


That doesn't really matter considering the statement comes from Gojo's OUTPUT, so it's a thing he can do by himself, they literally word it as "he can handle the power needs of an entire country by himself".


A braindead gojo would not be able to output energy every single second. He's dying in less than 10 minutes. And if other sorcerers were "enough" to output said energy they would point it out as they saw in the recordings. They SAW mechamaru's 5 year charges (which is what the top tiers currently scale to) yet they still think only Gojo would power the country. If the 5 year charge value was enough then Gojo wouldn't be as special.


I think the best way is using the timeframe that the kyoto goodwill event fights take as the time that gojo would need to power the country before needing rest (hence the 5 minutes) as that's what they saw in sorcerers' stamina.

This will be my last reply for now but if they know about the Mechamaru then that supports my point. Mechamaru is only special grade through infusing the robot with years worth of energy. But Gojo is casually a special grade with far better energy control and output. I don't see how thats unreasonable in comparison. Anyways, I'm fine with using what we already have or discarding it entirely, but that was my attempt for a compromise considering none of the staff who have commented have agreed on this so far. This is definitely going in circles, so I'll leave it with a final statement disagreeing. Good Luck with your thread, and I think you should call in more staff on this.

 

[Buraqibear]

I think you should ask a mod to close this now, no one's gonna read through 6 pages of yap and several mods already rejected it

 

[Rodriiogo]

I think you should ask a mod to close this now, no one's gonna read through 6 pages of yap and several mods already rejected it

It should be closed atp cause no one is willing to read allat yea
My issues with the feat are still there completely but

 

[ElJoaki5]

It should be closed atp cause no one is willing to read allat yea
My issues with the feat are still there completely but

you can request it to be closed here

All-purpose request thread (New forum)

done Thanks, will get to these tomorrow morning

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