Strongest 4-D Characters on the Wiki

[Nonynho]

They do, all deities have access to all spells if they wish so, Bambu directly states this

to me that statement wasn't 100% this, but this scan+the other statement made it pretty clear

 

[Nonynho]

unless you are familiar yourself with the verse, I advise not to use DnD characters.

afaik i'm a bit familiar with the verse, and if information's new to me i'm interested in researching and coming to a conclusion, even if not favorable.

I'll edit my post to try putting her, and see what will Destiny fellas argue

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

i really dunno what's funny, as i didn't have this info and couldn't find it

but since apparently you know stuff about it, can you help out?

Destiny has countless layers

 

[Nonynho]

Destiny has countless layers

i'd like a blog to read on it, because Unspecified =/= Countless, infinite, etc

• Destiny (Paracasual powers, unspecified on the amount of layers)

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

i'd like a blog to read on it, because Unspecified =/= Countless, infinite, etc

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

i'd like a blog to read on it, because Unspecified =/= Countless, infinite, etc

It's unspecified because it's impossible to quantify due to nature of the power of continuously getting stronger and more layers through a long period of time but it's still a shit ton

Top 15 Strongest Characters for Every Tier

The archinemesis of LANCEhammer 40k Psykers resist Causality Manipulation lol Also 40K is a little more cringe then Warhammer Fantasy, so it's okay

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Hax Layer Evaluation Thread

@Rabbit2002 that doesn’t exactly refute the point that being stronger doesn’t automatically mean layered hax, the feats of affecting people with resistances is needed for layered hax. Haven't I already provided that? Yang Qi's abilities cannot affect Fifth Stage Demolisher unless using more...

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[Nonynho]

Well, the person arguing, @Oliver_de_jesus, talks about "at least dozens" and 7 < dozens < 94, in my view, so....

 

[LephyrTheRevanchist]

The Lady of Pain apparently doesnt have 1-A hax (as she is technically not a god), so you can still user her if you want to.

But then again, Bambu is not interested in arguing for DnD characters in matches anymore. So, unless you are familiar yourself with the verse, I advise not to use DnD characters.

However, her resistances scale to people with access to such spells (The Serpent). Still a smurf.

 

[Nonynho]

welp, worth a try

will come up with someone else and come here if i get a result
ty, Lephyr

 

[Deonment]

unless im missing oryx just stomps everyone due to having the most layers
not sure why Madoka is so high up the list

Oryx should be above Castlevania, yes, but for the rest, no not really

Giratina needs above baseline 2-A range to reach, which no one in the list has and can blow up the multiverse and/or wait out oryx for his worm to eat him alive
Anos has his NEP 2 stuff back
Madoka God tiers have aca type 5, so Oryx can't touch them, and can blow up the multiverse and/or wait him out, FF has plot manip (which I have issues with, but its currently accepted)
Cui Heng has NEP 2 on all aspects, can wait oryx out/blow up the multiverse
Dragon Talisman has a whole list of bullshit im not getting into, but yes they can beat oryx

 

[Deonment]

well for Anos, NEP 2 only applies to his source so he can just get incapped

Graham then

 

[Vietthai96]

well for Anos, NEP 2 only applies to his source so he can just get incapped

Anos can act with his Source alone iirc, so even if his body get incapped, he can still does thing with as a Source. Though MGK supporters can clarify on this

 

[Deonment]

Doesn’t that mean they should just share a spot

Can still just nuke reality and run out his tithe

 

[Wesker018]

Anos can act with his Source alone iirc, so even if his body get incapped, he can still does thing with as a Source. Though MGK supporters can clarify on this

yeah

Limited Abstract Existence (Type 1. An excellent magician can keep their memories in their source, which is the fundamental concept of existence that exists deeper than the body, soul and mind, and even if the physical body perishes, as long as the source is intact, they can be revived. In other words, they can "think" and utilise powers with only their source)

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

im guessing this guy is the strongest FF character?

Bhunivelze

Bhunivelze is a god in Fabula Nova Crystallis: Final Fantasy mythos referred as the God of Light, being the secret driving force behind the Fal'Cie. He is alluded to in Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy XIII-2, is mentioned in the "Requiem of the Goddess" and appears in person in Lightning...

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Lightning is stronger than him, but technically speaking there are a multitude of characters that could be argued for that spot through Dissidia.

@Oblivion_Of_The_Endless Honestly. I don't mind FF being taken off the list entirely since they aren't gonna be in 2-A for very long. Plus there's still stuff that needs to be addressed like the eventual hax layers and other revisions.

 

[Eseseso]

Lightning is stronger than him, but technically speaking there are a multitude of characters that could be argued for that spot through Dissidia.

@Oblivion_Of_The_Endless Honestly. I don't mind FF being taken off the list entirely since they aren't gonna be in 2-A for very long. Plus there's still stuff that needs to be addressed like the eventual hax layers and other revisions.

Oh?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Oh?

Not in the immediate future, but there are plans in place. Guess I should have worded that different but yeah 2-A is gonna go eventually and again there's alot to be done plus with FF16 still under construction, a new Dissidia on the way and more games in the series that need to be dissected, there's alot in store.

 

[Vietthai96]

Tier 1 FF incoming?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Tier 1 FF incoming?

Hopefully, but we'll see what happens. Though for now yeah just take FF off the list

 

[ThienDe01]

3. Characters from Final Fantasy / Characters from Madoka Magica (Madoka & Homura)

Can someone tell me which character from FF is ranked 3rd here?

 

[The_Axiom_of_Virgo]

Can someone tell me which character from FF is ranked 3rd here?

It isn't one character but essentially it's usually a toss up between this 5 (ish) iirc:

1) Lightning (Has composite classic FF hax combined with being composite Fabula Nova Crystallis UES granting her a ton of hax)
2) Sephiroth (Is pretty much composite FF7 and is extremely difficult to put down while having plethora of spirit energy shenanigans)
3) Bhunivelze (Very similar to Lightning but is slightly weaker in return for being far more willing to pull the hax trigger)
4) Caius and Yuel (Caius is pretty much a rival to Lightning but he comes with Yuel on support and her plot/narrative hijinx)
5) Ultima (Due to her very unique existence, she is very hard to interact with and even if you do affect her, she has many resistances on top. She has access to Ivalice alliance magic that can mess with probability but she's more of stonewall, hence her low placing among the FF top tiers).

It should be noted FF is still going through years long revisions for each major installment (hence why FF16 doesn't have any profiles yet) and after that, then the verse may focus on hax layers lol!

 

[Xtars1998]

It isn't one character but essentially it's usually a toss up between this 5 (ish) iirc:

1) Lightning (Has composite classic FF hax combined with being composite Fabula Nova Crystallis UES granting her a ton of hax)
2) Sephiroth (Is pretty much composite FF7 and is extremely difficult to put down while having plethora of spirit energy shenanigans)
3) Bhunivelze (Very similar to Lightning but is slightly weaker in return for being far more willing to pull the hax trigger)
4) Caius and Yuel (Caius is pretty much a rival to Lightning but he comes with Yuel on support and her plot/narrative hijinx)
5) Ultima (Due to her very unique existence, she is very hard to interact with and even if you do affect her, she has many resistances on top. She has access to Ivalice alliance magic that can mess with probability but she's more of stonewall, hence her low placing among the FF top tiers).

It should be noted FF is still going through years long revisions for each major installment (hence why FF16 doesn't have any profiles yet) and after that, then the verse may focus on hax layers lol!

wait sephy is now top 2??

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

wait sephy is now top 2??

Technically Sephiroth shouldn't even be used now because the FFVII crew is missing stuff that Rebirth adds

 

[Oblivion_Of_The_Endless]

Removed Anos and Graham from the list since they aren't 2-A anymore.

 

[Wesker018]

Removed Anos and Graham from the list since they aren't 2-A anymore.

soon reval sharing spot with giratina?

 

[AlphaOmegaV1]

Removed Anos and Graham from the list since they aren't 2-A anymore.as well

You should also remove Mundus from the list since DMC got upgraded. I asked for FF to be removed as well. Also if I'm not mistaken Tensura's in the middle of a revision trying to upgrade to Tier 1

 

[Voidnether]

How is Giratina still on the list oh my god

 

[Dark_Shadow-34513]

4. Giratina
I wonder why Giratina is still on the list of strongest 4D characters.

 

[Eseseso]

Green Lantern (Hal Jordan)

Hal Jordan is a member, and occasionally the leader, of the intergalactic police force called the Green Lantern Corps. He fights evil across the Universe with a ring that grants him a variety of superpowers. Tier: 2-C | Varies, up to 3-C, 2-C at his peak | Varies, up to 3-C, 2-C at his peak |...

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Not sure where Hal Jordan lands on this list for sure, but I know he is at minimum above Kirby, especially with all the hax from here:

Green Lantern Power Ring

The Green Lantern Power Ring, also known as the Magic Ring to some, is an ancient and unbelievably powerful weapon created by the Guardians of the Universe in order to protect and maintain peace in the vast universe. As a lantern dies or in very rare cases, retires, their ring is passed on to...

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[Deonment]

Not sure where Hal Jordan lands on this list for sure, but I know he is at minimum above Kirby, especially with all the hax from here:

You mean the hax that bro does not use beyond construct spam typically?

 

[Hawktaro]

There are characters in Turma da Mônica who are stronger than Cebolinha and Dona Morte

 

[Dragonite007]

There are characters in Turma da Mônica who are stronger than Cebolinha and Dona Morte

They don't have a profile yet

 

[HakutoRei000]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/The_Adventurer_(Iruna)

Put anywhere lmao I just want to see them at least on some list (not THAT list).

Basically his last key grant:

Immortality type 4,5,7,8,9, Mid-Godly Resurrection, EE with souls and memories, Info type 2, resistance to many EE (Soul, physical, mind, will, memories, and spirit), Causality manip, and tanky enough with at least 2 layers for resistance.

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Lutria
L2-C was accepted here

 

[Eseseso]

You mean the hax that bro does not use beyond construct spam typically?

I mean he uses the other abilities when the situation calls for it...

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

Could higher spots interact with Lutria's soul?

• Abstract Existence (Type 1&2–Thought, Consciousness, Will, Emotion, Memory, Information(1&2) & Concept)–Souls are thought bodies, consisting of individual's elements like their thoughts, consciousness, will, emotions, memories, fundamental Information. As an Avatar of a World Tree’s Branch her existence is similar to that of Auralodde, the ruler of the Fairy World and its apparitions. Divine Spirits like Enti possess conception and can become avatars, and they are a part of Lutria existence, which mean that Lutria herself is an existence like apparitions. Apparitions are beings born from legends, from conception and thought element, and they are beings that humans can't notice nor damage with normal means)

or have an answer for her Law and CM?

 

[FriendOfTheTeaParty]

Could higher spots interact with Lutria's soul?

or have an answer for her Law and CM?

this is extremely bloated holy. thought, consciousness, will, emotion, and memory when they're all different aspects (they're not really and are all part of the same structure)

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

this is extremely bloated holy. thought, consciousness, will, emotion, and memory when they're all different aspects (they're not really and are all part of the same structure)

Not according to the wiki. Anyways I'm going to revise that in the future

 

[Deonment]

Not according to the wiki. Anyways I'm going to revise that in the future

No, according to the wiki, they are the same; differing power pages doesn't make them not all rooted in the mind unless the verse shows otherwise

I mean he uses the other abilities when the situation calls for it...

Yeah, but also when the situation calls for it is before any of the people here do something relevant, like, idk, meng chuan's passive AZ aura with planet level range, no idea why kirby's above him though, considering I do not remember anything that'd make him capable of taking on that or the other bullshit in his pocket

 

[EL_xWatcher1234x]

No, according to the wiki, they are the same;

Link?