Not possible she has plot hax, which klein can't resist against, so she wins in situation.I’m not sure what some good matchups would be tho. If you have any just propose em to me
Maybe Alovenus after the downgrade or any characters from that verse
somewhat yes, all of the lom characters are depended upon bc from original creator.
Huh? Godhood negates everything aside from NEP2, Acas5 and Omnipotence
dawg even if she is baseline 1A she slams Klein hard due haxes she owns
yeah generally Ala vs Klein matchup would be cool to argue but let CRT finish first
I died when that one dude started referencing Neoplatonism as if the analogy was even remotely relevant Seems like Gojo is gonna win tho. A lot of Klein’s stuff depend on his opponent being unprepared which isn’t possible with the given rules.
where ?, I don't any resistance against Plot Hax on Beyonder Physiology page.
Not all resistances are stated, because it directly scales off of OCs capabilities (this was discussed in the CRT). So you’d have to argue OC is bound by plot hax, which would be really weird not to be included in his nonduality
He can affect infinite 1-A realms ig…? I’m not sure why you mean unless youre talking about hax
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Lwk forgot about this. But if the matchup is skewed enough, the results will js always come up as bad lel.
Needs 5 whole seconds for it to start slowing Gojo’s mind and a few more for him to fully turn into a marionette. Since Klein can’t move much here either 1) Gojo runs away from range or 2) Just attacks Klein who cant dodge
Reading the scans, the ability is kinda mediocre. The precog is vague since it says "I can see the next course of action" and not much else, while the clairvoyance is how the guy could find out that a warehouse had bad stuff there
From 500 M and Gojo would need to throw a blue or a Red to be able to stop him, while also finding where he is
Divination utilizes the Spirit World which is the unity of past, present and future, so without Gojo’s ability to obscure his information then whatever Klein divines will be completely accurate. He also does this within Sefirah Castle which has 1-A potency.
Another weaker clown was able to dodge attacks from 4-5 different guys and made a plan to make said guys fall in their own trap
You’re confusing Keys, that’s Sequence 4. And the range for turning people into marionettes is much smaller than the range in which he can control his marionettes
I guess you are talking to me right?
I am not gonna vote because I want Klein to have a better page mind you, but if I am seeing "vague things" I would prefer to clarify those rather than just being silent and seeing Gojo somehow wins"I LOVE VAGUE P&A"
It’s in the Soul and Cosmology sections…"I LOVE VAGUE P&A"
Spirituality limitation, he'll run out eventually
Yeah, but it's not going to run out in 5 seconds. He doesn't need to dodge because Gojo can't attack him and only needs to teleport right where Gojo will be, which his precognition lets him do. Achieving initial control is pretty much guaranteed.
He needs to stay static for initial control as well. iirc the best he can do is walk and use a gun
He does not need to stay static for initial control, check the fights with Kircheis (684), Senor (728) and Enzo (909). In the first one, Klein is using Paper Figurine Substitutes, Bribe, Distortion, Pillar of Light, Psychic Piercing, etc. to the best of his abilities until initial control is established just as Kircheis burns his horns to forcefully induce an emotion in Klein; In the second one, Klein burns his spirituality with his stunlock tactic (Ice Stun, Language of Foulness, Psychic Piercing) to buy time until initial control is achieved; In the third one, Klein is described as teleporting around Enzo until 10 seconds had passed (since he hadn't fully digested the potion, he needed 10 seconds), alternates with Demoness of Affliction to spread a plague just in case and even commented on how well Traveling fit Marionettist once initial control was achieved.
Isn't there an hour of prep time? It should take a few minutes at most to set up the self-summoning scheme
Ye maybe its a but more lenient than I thought but keep in mind Gojo is leagues beyond these guys
He gets teleported a few meters next to Gojo. Also, it matters because once he leaves the Astral Projection to teleport away, he’ll need to redo the ritual which will cost him time
He can use the Sea Scepter to use lightning from Sefirah. But he is only capable of bringing his physical body up there at the Miracle Invoker key, whilst atp he can only bring his Soul. So Gojo can just attack his body as it remains defenseless.
Dodge. For all charms, Klein has to actively chant a word and then throw it at Gojo. The abilities themselves prob bypass infinity but they have low range.
These sorts of abilities have vague limitations since the series usually just ranks them against other abilities through sheer powerlevel, but it’s stated that it can be used to prohibit an ability from being used for example.
Does destroying Klein's physical body do anything to his soul? Like can he continue the fight as a spirit or is he cooked
Uhh, can he make it so Gojo can't use CE? If so is this not a nasty stomp
He could at a higher Sequence, but this Klein is much weaker so I’m really doubtful he could. Likely Sefirah would just automatically revive him back into his body and once that happens Gojo can just spawnkill
No:
I don't see this as too relevant in the proposed scenario as Klein is invulnerable, speed is equalized and Klein has precog to know where Gojo is trying to teleport. Enzo even had stronger precog on the level of giving him the cheat sheet of all correct decisions to do at all times and it wasn't enough to escape the teleporting Klein.
Now this is pretty relevant. Though if the prep time was to set up Spirit World Coordinates to retreat to, I don't see Gojo managing to find his physical body after teleportation anyways. Mark a bullet train and teleport to it during the fight after it has already traveled a long distance, the coordinates are more particular about symbols (such as village, ship, city) than distance and set positions, after all.
You mean if Gojo found his physical body he will have to redo the ritual to summon his Astral Projection again? I don't see this as very feasible. So long as Gojo can't find and destroy his physical body within the time he takes to do the first ritual, he gets a 5 second timer to initial control.
The Ninth Law charm is an ascended version of the Prohibition ability from a sequence 6 Judge, so there are quite a few examples of what can be done with it in the first book alone (379, 473, 628, 699, 880, 1026, 1146). You can specify an action that cannot be done in the surrounding area so long as it's not overly general (such as supernatural abilities cannot be used). Considering general knowledge of Gojo's abilities, Klein can use it to say: "Limitless is prohibited here" and disable Gojo's cursed technique entirely so long as he hasn't managed to stop Klein from activating it or retreat far enough.
Not Fate Siphon, chanting the word and injecting spirituality is enough. Also, Ninth Law is only technically thrown at Gojo, it scatters into light as into the surroundings, presumably designating the affected area.
Klein isn’t invulnerable here if we’re talking about his physical body tho.
Yea, that’s pretty useful. Prep time might be irrelevant then ngl
How long is Gojo’s TP? Cuz if it’s big enough then he can just leave Marionette range in an instant and Klein will have to redo
He teleported from a trench to wherever kenjaku was. More than enough to escape kleins range. But he needs to clasp his hands to do it. But klein can use ninth law to disable that. Couldnt klein also use this to disable gojo's sensory abilities to make sure gojo cant find him?
Gojo wouldn’t notice Klein using his Spirit Body Threads until after he got slowed, so if Gojo needs to clasp his hands to get out of it then Klein can just use one of Creeping Hunger’s stuns/stalls or just pop Ninth Law
