Marvel minor abilities addition and iron man stat fix

[Rgerdeena]

Spider man should have breaking the fourth wall on his profile the evidence is This from Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 3) #1 and Amazing Spider-Man (Vol. 5) #74

wolverine should have limited temperature manipulation on his profile the evidence is This from Wolverine: Infinity Watch #4 and Hulkverines #3 and Return of Wolverine #2 and Merry X-Men Holiday Special #1

Iron man’s Model 6(Iron Man Volume 1 Issue 218) and 7(Iron Man Vol 1 152) and 8(Iron Man Volume 1 Issue 211) and 9(Iron Man #231 and Iron Man #239) and 13(Iron Man Vol 1 300) and 15(Iron Man Vol 1 319) and 16(Iron Man Vol.3 #3) and 20(Iron Man Vol 3 50) should be hypersonic because the only justifications for them being massively hypersonic+ are them being superior to previous armors and said previous armors either are or should be hypersonic

Iron man’s Model 8 should be large building level+ because the only justification for it being city block level is it being superior to model 4 and stilt man which are large building level+, never mind on this one

Iron man’s model 9(Iron Man #273) should be planet level with the emergency redoubler because it knocked out fin fang foom who is planet level

Iron man’s model 13(Iron Man Vol 1 #305) hulkbuster should be class M because it’s lifting strength is on par with professor hulk who should be at least comparable to grey hulk who is class M

Iron man’s model 20(Iron Man Vol 3 50) should be small city level+ because it’s only justifications for it being city level are being superior to model 16 and 19 which are small city level+ and a bunch of uncalculated feats which can’t make him city level unless they get calculated and are city level

Iron man’s model 38(Avengers vs. X-Men Volume 1 Issue 5) and 50(Superior Iron Man Vol 1 9) should be hypersonic because they are listed as massively hypersonic+ in speed because they should be superior to model 4 and model 4 is hypersonic

Iron man’s model 50(Superior Iron Man Vol 1 9) should be low complex multiverse level in hulkbuster mode because in hulkbuster mode they one shot model 36 which is low complex multiverse level

Iron man’s model 51(Civil War II #5) and 54(Civil War II #8) should be upgraded to at least planet level, possibly galaxy level and at least hypersonic, possibly massively FTL+ because they are somewhat comparable to captain marvel who is galaxy level and massively FTL+

 

[Gasosidade]

I noticed that Model 50 is only classified as 5-B. However, this model defeated the Model 36 Hulkbuster, so it should be classified as Low 1-C.

 

[Rgerdeena]

I noticed that Model 50 is only classified as 5-B. However, this model defeated the Model 36 Hulkbuster, so it should be classified as Low 1-C.

he did that in hulkbuster mode of the model 50 which for obvious reasons would be stronger than regular mode so that probably works for just hulkbuster mode

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[AyOgUyS]

You should probably give references (this is Marvel after all)

 

[Rgerdeena]

You should probably give references (this is Marvel after all)

References to what

 

[AyOgUyS]

References to what

like which comics the scans come from

 

[Rgerdeena]

like which comics the scans come from

Done

 

[Rex_Eckles]

What specific value of High 8-C+ does the Model 8 scale to?

 

[Rgerdeena]

What specific value of High 8-C+ does the Model 8 scale to?

4.56 tons I think because it upscales from model 4 and model 4 Split a man-made island

 

[Rex_Eckles]

4.56 tons I think because it upscales from model 4 and model 4 Split a man-made island

Alright, then it's just baseline High 8-C+, so not enough to be upscaled. Yeah, I agree.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

The Spider-Man scans above are evidently not a part of regular continuity, and how does regular Wolverine without gamma radiation empowerment have heat manipulation exactly?

 

[Rgerdeena]

The Spider-Man scans above are evidently not a part of regular continuity

Why, he talks about regular continuity and the scans are from comics that have multiple stories and the other stories are all from regular continuity

and how does regular Wolverine without gamma radiation empowerment have heat manipulation exactly?

Some guys tried to get the adamantium out of him because they wanted adamantium and Wolverine broke out of their machine and somewhere in this process he gained the ability to heat up his claws which seems to be a permanent ability

 

[Antvasima]

Why, he talks about regular continuity and the scans are from comics that have multiple stories and the other stories are all from regular continuity

Because this is evidently not intended to be a part of the regular story, but rather a nonserious way for the writer to interact with the audience in a non-canon manner. So I will definitely not accept this. My apologies.

Some guys tried to get the adamantium out of him because they wanted adamantium and Wolverine broke out of their machine and somewhere in this process he gained the ability to heat up his claws which seems to be a permanent ability

Not unless he has demonstrated it otherwise, no.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Because this is evidently not intended to be a part of the regular story, but rather a nonserious way for the writer to interact with the audience in a non-canon manner. So I will definitely not accept this. My apologies.

Lots of nonserious stuff is part of the regular story and i don’t see anything that says those aren’t canon but I’m willing to agree to disagree and see what other staff think since you seem very firm about this

Not unless he has demonstrated it otherwise, no.

well he demonstrated it in at least 4 comics that I know of and 3 of those comics have almost nothing to do with the comic where he gained the ability

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Maybe Wolverine heating his claws is a legitimate new power then, not just one gained from a temporary Hulk power-up.

Do you have other examples available?

 

[Rgerdeena]

Okay. Maybe Wolverine heating his claws is a legitimate new power then, not just one gained from a temporary Hulk power-up.

Do you have other examples available?

the scans are from Wolverine: Infinity Watch #4 and Hulkverines #3 and Return of Wolverine #2 and Merry X-Men Holiday Special #1, Wolverine:infinity watch#4 is where he gained the ability to heat up his claws, in hulkverines #3 he used it while he was hulked out, in return of wolverine #2 he was able to use it when he was fighting some random guy and got angry, in merry x men holiday special #1 he just randomly used it

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That seems fine to add then.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I have already strongly rejected Spider-Man having a breaking the 4th wall ability in regular continuity, and accepted Wolverine being able to heat up his claws.

All of your other suggestions here need scans and issue references according to our rules.

 

[Rgerdeena]

All of your other suggestions here need scans and issue references according to our rules.

all of the iron man stuff is just what’s already on the profile of those armors, I’m not suggesting anything new with that I’m just fixing the stats

 

[Antvasima]

all of the iron man stuff is just what’s already on the profile of those armors, I’m not suggesting anything new with that I’m just fixing the stats

Okay.

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What do you think about these suggested revisions?

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

OP looks alright from a glance.

 

[LordTracer]

Iron man’s Model 8 should be large building level+ because the only justification for it being city block level is it being superior to model 4 and stilt man which are large building level+

It’s upscaling to baseline City Block level because it has a sizable scaling chain above Mettle, who scales to 7.98 Tons. The Rhino scales to Mettle, Luke Cage one-shot the Rhino, the Model 4 scales to Luke Cage, and the Model 8 scales above that.

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

It’s upscaling to baseline City Block level because it has a sizable scaling chain above Mettle, who scales to 7.98 Tons. The Rhino scales to Mettle, Luke Cage one-shot the Rhino, the Model 4 scales to Luke Cage, and the Model 8 scales above that.

This clarification looks good to me.

 

[Rgerdeena]

It’s upscaling to baseline City Block level because it has a sizable scaling chain above Mettle, who scales to 7.98 Tons. The Rhino scales to Mettle, Luke Cage one-shot the Rhino, the Model 4 scales to Luke Cage, and the Model 8 scales above that.

Our attack potency and tiering system pages say “Tiers between 9-A and 3-B, even those which do correspond with their namesakes, should not be assigned unless there are accepted calculations, multipliers, and/or reliably stated precise Joule values that correspond with those ratings, as many verses can have their own context result in these feats being above or below their namesakes.” and upscaling is neither a accepted calculation nor a multiplier nor a stated joule value, also our tiering system page explicitly says “being far more powerful than a character in one tier does not necessarily qualify one for a higher rating.”

 

[Rgerdeena]

It’s upscaling to baseline City Block level because it has a sizable scaling chain above Mettle, who scales to 7.98 Tons. The Rhino scales to Mettle, Luke Cage one-shot the Rhino, the Model 4 scales to Luke Cage, and the Model 8 scales above that.

Also there’s the fact that there’s a flaw in that chainscaling because rhino greatly damaged model 8 which is much stronger than model 4 and rhino forced model 9 to use it’s full output and model 9 is much stronger than model 8

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Doesn’t Rhodey state that the Model 8 is twice as strong as the Model 4? It’s in the Model 8’s profile.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Doesn’t Rhodey state that the Model 8 is twice as strong as the Model 4? It’s in the Model 8’s profile.

Oh, I did not see that because the profile says he said superior whereas the scan says twice as powerful, I’m fine with it then

 

[Dark-Carioca]

OP seems fine to me

 

[Antvasima]

To all staff members here: Please read my evaluations above.

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[Rgerdeena]

Bump

 

[AyOgUyS]

At a glance this seems fine and uncontroversial to me