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Top 15 Strongest Non-Smurfs for Every Tier Continuation 4.0

Lort15 said:
Ben Tennyson for 4-B and Alien X for 1-B? i can help with the verse if neccecary

edit: Ben is scaling to 1.04226 TeraFoe to 10.4226 TeraFoe with spesific Aliens for 4-B his classic version is scaling to 104.226 GigaFoe
here is the scaling chain
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Ben 10

For detailed information about this franchise, visit the Ben 10 Wiki. Ben 10 is a cartoon series created by Man of Action and Cartoon Network. Four series (Ben 10, Ben 10: Alien Force, Ben 10: Ultimate Alien and Ben 10: Omniverse) exist as well as several movies. The series follows the...
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and Alien X is 26D he would be below Godzilla (their profiles are deleted from the site but eh?) i'm lowk thinking Alien X inconning Godzilla actually because X have BDE which makes him unaffacted by Causality manip as well, he exist outside of time, space and causality in the last match Godzilla defeated X because of causality destruction otherwise he didn't have any way to overcome with Alien X's regen
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Ben is smurf
 
Dragonite007 said:
In what spot Alien Xvideos will be?
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eh i suppose above yansen? yansen is 12-D meanwhile X is 26-D are the dreaming ones really countless D? i see they devoured hundred of dimensions but i didn't see anything about countless D also will you delete godzilla cuz their profiles are deleted from the site
 
Lort15 said:
eh i suppose above yansen? yansen is 12-D meanwhile X is 26-D are the dreaming ones really countless D? i see they devoured hundred of dimensions but i didn't see anything about countless D also will you delete godzilla cuz their profiles are deleted from the site
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For 8-B, how do the other spots get past Barago's soul invulnerability and stop him from thinking and killing them and his mid godly regen
 
Minaaaa said:
For 8-B, how do the other spots get past Barago's soul invulnerability and stop him from thinking and killing them and his mid godly regen
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Does he start with the thought based deconstruction or any of his other thought based stuff? And I assume they aren't dodgeable?

Because Yoon-seok can just crush him to the ground via his aura, incapping him and fear Manip him via a thought (technically can argue his aura is passive but ehhh aura standards being passive are weird here). Also can just power null via his sword (layered to hell and back), and if the soul stuff is in any way related to mind shenanigans, then one could argue that he could at least partially resist it due to having quite a bit of layers in that department (but it's dubious, so eh).
 
Rikimarox2 said:
Does he start with the thought based deconstruction or any of his other thought based stuff? And I assume they aren't dodgeable?
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Not really but wouldn't be opposed to doing here, better description of his soul hax here
Rikimarox2 said:
Because Yoon-seok can just crush him to the ground via his aura, incapping him and fear Manip him via a thought (technically can argue his aura is passive but ehhh aura standards being passive are weird here). Also can just power null via his sword (layered to hell and back), and if the soul stuff is in any way related to mind shenanigans, then one could argue that he could at least partially resist it due to having quite a bit of layers in that department (but it's dubious, so eh).
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Yea his mind=soul and I didn't see soul hax when looking at his profile (though could have missed it)
 
Minaaaa said:
Not really but wouldn't be opposed to doing here, better description of his soul hax here

Yea his mind=soul and I didn't see soul hax when looking at his profile (though could have missed it)
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That deconstruction/soul hax seems gesture based, no? Even then, if he doesn't start with it, Yoon-seok can just aura crush him to the ground (Yoon-seok has Class K lifting strength). By then, he has quite a few ways to incap (hell, he can even use his law Manip to make it so no one can regenerate), either inflicting him with any attack and increasing the pain by 20 times, fear manipulating him, power nulling him, etc...

Also, Barago's range is... Standard melee range. So Yoon-seok would be 4KMs away from him from the start of the match. Has Barago shown to be able to deconstruct someone from 4kms away?

Also no, Neo doesn't have soul stuff (yet, at least. It does exist in the universe, and they are just as prone to all of his attacks, but he lacks NPI)
 
Rikimarox2 said:
That deconstruction/soul hax seems gesture based, no?
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mostly but they can do it without it
Rikimarox2 said:
Even then, if he doesn't start with it, Yoon-seok can just aura crush him to the ground (Yoon-seok has Class K lifting strength). By then, he has quite a few ways to incap (hell, he can even use his law Manip to make it so no one can regenerate), either inflicting him with any attack and increasing the pain by 20 times, fear manipulating him, power nulling him, etc...
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Would the attacks be able to hurt him due to his aforementioned Invulnerability? Fear manip probably wouldn't work due to needing to affect his soul to affect his mind. Power null would work if he can null his type of powers
Rikimarox2 said:
Also, Barago's range is... Standard melee range. So Yoon-seok would be 4KMs away from him from the start of the match. Has Barago shown to be able to deconstruct someone from 4kms away?
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He can't (though horrors should have interdimensional esp)
 
Minaaaa said:
mostly but they can do it without it
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But they usually do gestures, no?
Minaaaa said:
Would the attacks be able to hurt him due to his aforementioned Invulnerability? Fear manip probably wouldn't work due to needing to affect his soul to affect his mind. Power null would work if he can null his type of powers
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Does his invul strictly require soul weapons? Because just "conventional weapons" isn't really a problem when all of his attack dura neg + are elemental in nature, and have power nulling effects (Able to nullify all kinds of magic). Also, he has purification, if that helps, which purifies all negative energy (and is layered, too). Regardless, if he manages to even just injure him a bit, the pain manip would work plenty. And his Law stuff are also there if he sees him keep regenerating. Oh ye, also, he has like 6x attack speed buff that he can activate pretty fast.
Minaaaa said:
He can't (though horrors should have interdimensional esp)
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Not sure how that would work here tbh.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
But they usually do gestures, no?
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Usually yea, they can do it through normal attacks but it hasn't been added yet
Rikimarox2 said:
Does his invul strictly require soul weapons? Because just "conventional weapons" isn't really a problem when all of his attack dura neg + are elemental in nature, and have power nulling effects (Able to nullify all kinds of magic).
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Yea, horrors require soul/spiritual attacks to hurt them
 
If only soul/spiritual attacks can hurt them then that's a bit of a problem since Yoon-seok doesn't have any rn. Though his aura stuff should still work, and so will his Law stuff, but I'm not sure how useful that would be here. I'll check on the source material a bit to see if the mana/qi he uses is spiritual in nature (and whether that is enough, obv), so gimme a bit.
 
Rikimarox2 said:
If only soul/spiritual attacks can hurt them then that's a bit of a problem since Yoon-seok doesn't have any rn. Though his aura stuff should still work, and so will his Law stuff, but I'm not sure how useful that would be here. I'll check on the source material a bit to see if the mana/qi he uses is spiritual in nature (and whether that is enough, obv), so gimme a bit.
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The novel is getting funky rn (few chapters are just a mess in terms of formatting, idk why), but I didn't really find anything yet. So I'm fine with Yoon-seok going below him.
 
What characters from weakest mage, hitman reborn and megaman are for 5-A?

Also embodiment and God aren't 5-A and Lindon is a smurf
 
Minaaaa said:
What characters from weakest mage, hitman reborn and megaman are for 5-A?

Also embodiment and God aren't 5-A and Lindon is a smurf
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Hitman Reborn characters should be removed. In this crt 3 mods accepted the downgrade. But then thread went nowhere.
 
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