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In real life an exploding star is High 4-C, if I remember correctly.
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The Mah-vel Unfawking Thread Step Three: I Came Back with Milk
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Can we refrain from calling things outliers until we finish collecting feats? That defeats the whole purpose of the thread.
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Correct, I am just suggesting that it’s not impossible for the Marvel Universe to have stronger Supernovas than in reality.In real life an exploding star is High 4-C, if I remember correctly.
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It’s Spiderman bro
He’s a lot of things, but island level is not one of them
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You lack the hunger to take hold of your desires.It’s Spiderman bro
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What’s the point of collecting feats of we’re going to call half of them outliers?It’s Spiderman bro
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In my heart and soul, he is.It’s Spiderman bro
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Lowkey deserves it with how much shit he gets on a daily basis.
Tier 7 Spiderman when….
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You guys understand what characters are under revision, correct? This isn't scaling free-for-all. If the High 8-Cs were under discussion I would've mentioned them in the last 6 months. And me mentioning them is important because the staff expectation of the thread and conclusions derived, are working on the idea that I was responsible enough to moderate this debate and properly structure the feats presented for TIERS 5-B. TIER 5-B is being discussed. That is what the project is.
You can't just make the 200 character CRT consider 200 characters more for scaling because you can't be assed to make a CRT of your own, 10 pages and 4 threads down. Please. Think ONCE. I am saying this in the nicest way possible because to be blunt I can't fathom what thought process leads you guys to give proposals like this. This is ******* ridiculous.
Seems fine
Darvel DOMics: Doom durability
vsbattles.fandom.com
It did knock him out but didn't hurt his armor IIRC, so downscaling to baseline 6-B (7 teratons) from the 18 teraton calc would make sense
Can you link these rq?
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Spider-man is a can of worms when it comes to scaling, but point taken.
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A feat from a character below High Tiers is relevant to High Tier scaling, because inherently every character we are talking about would scale above that feat. I don't know why you are so uptight about this.
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Also, the Thing seemed to have survived the same explosion Spider-man did, so can we at least treat it as a Thing feat?
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I think your link is broken. But based on what you said, then I think it could be treated as a Thing feat
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I mean, technically if the feat is deemed as not usable for scaling, then the scaling of the high tiers wouldn't reflect upscaling the unused feat.
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It's on the original calc.
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The skarab one which you were fine with on page 1
As for the tier 5 one is this, you completely ignored the 2006 feat.
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Let's try not to be to accusatory of one another, we're all stressed and want what's best for Marvel Comics and don't want a 100 page thread.
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I just mean that if accepted, it would be support for Tier 6 Heralds. Its not needed since we have feats above that level, but still
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Obb I am deadass, I am this close to declare this is derailment and there be action done on this thread. We aren't adding 200 characters on this thread, because I know none of you will be revising 400 characters at once.
I have told you why this is a problem since page one of this thread. It is now page ten. Nothing has changed except your insistence. So this is a test of my patience at this point
Firstly, what is the issue number?
ye sure ill include it
It's for the same reasons as the Vol 1 one, same dynamics at play. I didn't ignore it, just that whatever I said for the feat prior applies here because it's the same source.
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Pretty sure it's Marvel Team-Up Annual #5 (thank goodness for the Marvel Database, eh?)
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Not it's not, did you even saw it? It's no portal, it's clearly an explosion and we straight up see the guy being vaporized by the explosion while Carol doesn't
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Oh by the way, my Model 9 Iron Man calc got rejected, something about "energy surpassing the GBE of Earth hitting the Earth and not destroying it" not making sense. I could try using real-world ISL (and ignore the comic's numbers) to get something, but I feel if the energy reaching Earth even approaches it's real world GBE, it'll be rejected again.
We might be running out of feats.
We might be running out of feats.
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Could it be recalced based on it collapsing the West Coast into the ocean when it hit Earth?
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Maybe? Would I still use the SA of Earth when applying ISL or just the West Coast?
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Sorry, but idk. I don't really know how to do calcs like that
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I agree with Impress about that we should keep this revision thread focused on what it is intended for. She can continue with improving the reliability of Marvel Comics characters with other tiers in later revision threads.
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It seems most of the usable feats so far are either Tier 7 or Tier 6, is it possible to use both tiers or can only one be used when this is all over?
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So, where does that leave us? @Rex_Eckles' Iron Man feat looks good but apparently needs a recalc. @Suigetsuhyugs says that there is more to his feat than what @The_Impress addressed. We have an assortment of Tier 7 and lower end Tier 6 feats to use. I think there was also a 6-B and High 6-A feat mentioned, but idk what happened to those. There is also the issue of Human Torch's flames have several Tier 5 or even Tier 4 statements/feats, and I don't know if we came to a conclusion on that. Feats from characters like Blastaar and Super Skrull were deemed unusable due to mechanics unique to them I think.
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As in, the tier with numerically more feats? If so, that's probably gonna be Tier 7.
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Not necessarily the more numerous, otherwise basically everyone would be like 9-B. We just need to make sure that there are a decent number of higher end feats to establish consistency.
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I'll get it it, the Model 9 isn't scaled to these (relatively) higher tiers but we might be able to get Fin Fang Foom to 40 times whatever the yield will be.
Doctor Doom
The Mandarin
It was decided that those are peak feats, not usable for Torch normally
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My worry about using that multiplier is that weaker armors do scales to some of these high tiers imo. I want to do a revision on that further down the line. If Iron Man doesn't currently scale on our wiki, but might in the future, how would we handle feats from him?
Also, in general I'm skeptical about multiplier statements being used in Marvel.
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"Varies" up to (40 times normal) with a strong enough power source?
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Yeah, that could be good. Iron Man's armors all should have the varies mechanic in general, and it's consistent he can amp himself beyond usual levels with strong power sources, so this would work well
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I remember being mentioned that Super Skrull's feats only work when amped by the satellite I think Impress mentioned that, Ms. Marvel fought a satellite amped Super Skrull.
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