Yet Another Massive Marvel P&A CRT (Aka Part 3 of My Marvel Revisions)

[Eseseso]

@Emirp sumitpo as well.

And please don't bother staff who made votes that don't agree with yours. While their agreements weren't detailed, that doesn't mean they didn't read the OP.

 

[Antvasima]

Saman is explicitly the only staff member here who has bothered to actually read through all of the scans and analyse the suggested revisions one by one, but what he has accepted can be applied now, yes.

 

[Eseseso]

Saman is explicitly the only staff member here who has bothered to actually read through all of the scans and analyse the suggested revisions one by one, but what he has accepted can be applied now, yes.

If Saman isn't planning on looking at the other stuff, I don't want this thread to be put on hold for another month when we have 3 full staff agreements

 

[Antvasima]

@SamanPatou

Are you willing to continue to help out here please?

 

[Planck69]

Saman is explicitly the only staff member here who has bothered to actually read through all of the scans and analyse the suggested revisions one by one, but what he has accepted can be applied now, yes.

This is a rather tacky thing to say, all things considered.

Anyways, I'll go through the OP in a bit.

 

[Eseseso]

This is a rather tacky thing to say, all things considered.

Anyways, I'll go through the OP in a bit.

Thank you, just let me know when you're done.

 

[Eseseso]

I may look at this later, but I'll mainly see more input from others.

Asides from Planck, Godernet and Lephyr both informed me that they'd evaluate the OP.

Still, please feel free to give your own thoughts.

 

[Antvasima]

This is a rather tacky thing to say, all things considered.

Well, I obviously included myself as not having had the time to go through all of the evidence either. I did not mean any offence by the statement.

Anyways, I'll go through the OP in a bit.

Thank you very much for helping out.

 

[Eseseso]

This is a rather tacky thing to say, all things considered.

Anyways, I'll go through the OP in a bit.

I may look at this later, but I'll mainly see more input from others.

Bump

 

[Antvasima]

I think that we patiently have to wait for @SamanPatou and @Planck69 here.

 

[Eseseso]

I think that we patiently have to wait for @SamanPatou and @Planck69 here.

Seems so, unless Godernet and/or Lephyr comment.

 

[KLOL506]

I'd rather both parties calm down and not try to throw any accusations. As for Ant, I'd suggest you respect the votes of others and not automatically jump to conclusions that people just glanced over the scans.

That being said, tagging staff to get some more votes going.

@Ultima_Reality @Elizhaa @LephyrTheRevanchist @DarkDragonMedeus @LordGriffin1000 @Dereck03 @Maverick_Zero_X @Just_a_Random_Butler @Qawsedf234 @Firestorm808 @Starter_Pack @Abstractions @Celestial_Pegasus @GrathOfLux @Everything12

@Reiner04 @ActuallySpaceMan42 @KingTempest @Catzlaflame @UchihaSlayer96 @Emirp sumitpo @LordTracer @Armorchompy @CrimsonStarFallen @Nierre @Dalesean027 @Oblivion_Of_The_Endless @Vietthai96 @Imaginym @Godernet @FinePoint @Mr._Propeller_Hat Your input here would be appreciated. Please kindly read all the scans present in thorough detail.

 

[Antvasima]

I'd rather both parties calm down and not try to throw any accusations. As for Ant, I'd suggest you respect the votes of others and not automatically jump to conclusions that people just glanced over the scans.

Look, this is not a "sweepingly offhandedly accept or reject everything" revision thread per definition. It is a "go through each suggestion one by one" kind of thread, and thus far, also per definition, only Saman has had the time and energy to properly do so, myself included, also per definition. That is not an accusation, but a statement of fact as far as I am aware.

In this case I do not think that it is appropriate to mass-ping staff members who know very little about this insanely complicated and self-contradictory verse, and would much rather that we patiently wait for point-by-point input.

Staff members should preferably also only be mass-pinged in cases of important emergency, and also preferably gauged by higher ranking staff members, which is not the case here.

 

[DarkDragonMedeus]

Yeah, the over pinging is very excessive, and I still do not really know what the current main highlighted debate is. And would prefer some general summaries as I currently have a lot of RL things going on my end.

 

[Eseseso]

Yeah, the over pinging is very excessive, and I still do not really know what the current main highlighted debate is. And would prefer some general summaries as I currently have a lot of RL things going on my end.

Saman only evaluated the Scarlet Witch stuff so the rest of the stuff in the OP needs to be evaluated nevermind that 3 staff already agreed to the entire OP so it feels like this CRT is being stonewalled

 

[Antvasima]

Not stonewalled, just making a common sense statement that we need some staff member(s) to actually find the time and energy to check through each of the suggestions in these types of situations. That is all.

 

[Planck69]

So far, I've gone through them and don't have any overt issues with anything in the OP. That said, would someone hash out just what about Scarlet Witch Saman had an issue with? In case I've missed something in my analysis.

 

[Eseseso]

So far, I've gone through them and don't have any overt issues with anything in the OP. That said, would someone hash out just what about Scarlet Witch Saman had an issue with? In case I've missed something in my analysis.

Main things were resistance to the Phoenix Force (which tbf did warrant more than a guidebook statement and I did find stuff from the comics supporting, as shown in the OP) and resistance to deconstruction

 

[Antvasima]

So far, I've gone through them and don't have any overt issues with anything in the OP. That said, would someone hash out just what about Scarlet Witch Saman had an issue with? In case I've missed something in my analysis.

Thank you for helping out. Please see Saman's previous posts in this thread for information. I don't think there have been a lot of them.

 

[Eseseso]

Thank you for helping out. Please see Saman's previous posts in this thread for information. I don't think there have been a lot of them.

Can I at least apply the stuff for characters that only had one proposed revision, like Domino?

 

[Eseseso]

Can I at least apply the stuff for characters that only had one proposed revision, like Domino?

 

[Eseseso]

Thank you for helping out. Please see Saman's previous posts in this thread for information. I don't think there have been a lot of them.

Can I at least apply the stuff for characters that only had one proposed revision, like Domino?

 

[Eseseso]

Also since Saman hasn't responded in a long while and 4 staff fully agree with the current OP, would it be ok if we wait until Christmas for Saman to make any further comments and then I can apply the changes?

 

[Eseseso]

Can I at least apply the stuff for characters that only had one proposed revision, like Domino?

Also since Saman hasn't responded in a long while and 4 staff fully agree with the current OP, would it be ok if we wait until Christmas for Saman to make any further comments and then I can apply the changes?

 

[Eseseso]

Can I at least apply the stuff for characters that only had one proposed revision, like Domino?

Also since Saman hasn't responded in a long while and 4 staff fully agree with the current OP, would it be ok if we wait until Christmas for Saman to make any further comments and then I can apply the changes?

Bump

 

[Eseseso]

On second thought, since Planck fully agreed with the OP (making him the fourth staff member to completely agree with the OP), I'm going to apply the stuff that applies to the unlocked pages later today (I'm not really in a rush to try getting 3 dozen pages unlocked and their profiles revised).

 

[Antvasima]

Well, you can not apply the changes Saman and I rejected here, and have to undo that part if you have done so already, but the rest are probably fine, in lack of better options.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, I apologise to KLOL for likely being too suspicious here earlier.

 

[Eseseso]

Well, you can not apply the changes Saman and I rejected here, and have to undo that part if you have done so already, but the rest are probably fine, in lack of better options.

All due respect, Planck went over that stuff as well and agreed with it. Plus there's the other 3 staff agreements

 

[Eseseso]

For reference, I haven't applied any of the stuff Saman had issues with since Wanda's page is locked, I was just clarifying my thoughts.

 

[Antvasima]

All due respect, Planck went over that stuff as well and agreed with it. Plus there's the other 3 staff agreements

That doesn't matter if Saman and I rejected some of the changes, especially as others largely sweepingly accepted everything without having the time to inspect it indepth.

For reference, I haven't applied any of the stuff Saman had issues with since Wanda's page is locked, I was just clarifying my thoughts.

Okay. That is good then.

 

[Eseseso]

That doesn't matter if Saman and I rejected some of the changes, especially as others largely sweepingly accepted everything without having the time to inspect it indepth.

All due respect, that usually isn't an issue in most CRT's. BUT, just to be sure, I reached out to Glass and asked him to specifically look at Scarlet Witch's stuff since that's the main stuff of contention.

Okay. That is good then.

Also, I have 35 other profiles to add the revisions to, so there's a lot of time before I will update SW's page.

 

[Theglassman12]

I'm not exactly seeing Dimensional Manipulation when the context is mostly just her getting into the realm as opposed to warping the dimensional structure itself unless I'm missing something.

Low-Mid to Mid regen I don't see the need to have these two there when she's clearly cut in half from head down. That's a pretty solid Mid regen feat.

The rest looks good to me.

 

[Eseseso]

I'm not exactly seeing Dimensional Manipulation when the context is mostly just her getting into the realm as opposed to warping the dimensional structure itself unless I'm missing something.

Yeah, I put it as that since the dimensions were stated to be overlapping, but honestly it probably works better as dimensional travel as Saman said.

Low-Mid to Mid regen I don't see the need to have these two there when she's clearly cut in half from head down. That's a pretty solid Mid regen feat.

The rest looks good to me.

Noted! Thank you!

 

[Antvasima]

All due respect, that usually isn't an issue in most CRT's. BUT, just to be sure, I reached out to Glass and asked him to specifically look at Scarlet Witch's stuff since that's the main stuff of contention.

Also, I have 35 other profiles to add the revisions to, so there's a lot of time before I will update SW's page.

If two high-ranking staff members have rejected some of the changes, those changes cannot be applied.

 

[Eseseso]

If two high-ranking staff members have rejected some of the changes, those changes cannot be applied.

Ok, well Glass just gave his thoughts on the SW stuff and I changed the OP accordingly.

Which would technically make it 5-2, especially sincerely Planck and Glass both explicitly evaluated SW's stuff

 

[Antvasima]

One administrator and one bureaucrat are sufficient to reject specific changes from being accepted, especially if others here haven't inspected them indepth. Stop being subversive please.

 

[Eseseso]

One administrator and one bureaucrat are sufficient to reject specific changes from being accepted, especially if others here haven't inspected them indepth. Stop being subversive please.

I'm not being subversive, I just don't believe in dismissing a majority vote of staff (including 2 that explicitly focused on the Scarlet Witch stuff) just because you disagree with it.

2 admins and 3 other voting staff fully agreed with the SW stuff.

 

[Antvasima]

I don't personally have much of an opinion on the contents of the revision itself. I just want it to have been properly evaluated, not sweepingly offhandledly given brief "accept everything" answers without checking through each of the suggestions.

 

[Eseseso]

I don't personally have much of an opinion on the contents of the revision itself. I just want it to have been properly evaluated, not sweepingly offhandledly given brief "accept everything" answers without checking through each of the suggestions.

I am reaching out to more staff to evaluate just the SW part. And just a btw that I did edit the OP in accordance with Glass's suggestions.

I still have 20+ profiles left to edit before I even get to SW.