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DEATH BATTLE! Accuracy Scale [Part 10, The more things change, the more they stay the same]

Personally Solgaleo is a stretch, since he went to Ultra Space so gl getting him reliably back.

However, DB gives a lot of stuff that shouldnt be given, so at least its a norm.
 
TsukasayaEmmaDCD said:
Tldr our ygo profiles are shit and we only have game pokemon
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Ash Ketchum

Ash Ketchum (Japanese: サトシ Satoshi) is the main character of the original Pokémon anime. He is also the main character of various manga based on the anime, including The Electric Tale of Pikachu, Ash & Pikachu, Magical Pokémon Journey, and Pocket Monsters Diamond & Pearl, including some direct...
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We have an Ash profile, but it's also kind of outdated.

Still, it's far better than Yugi's profiles.

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Yugi Muto (Manga)

Yugi Muto is the main protagonist of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! series. The modern reincarnation of the ancient Pharaoh Atem, he completes the Millennium Puzzle and gains a second personality, Dark Yugi, that takes the place of Atem's sealed spirit. The two personalities must now work together to...
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Yugi Muto (Anime)

Yugi Muto is the main protagonist of the original Yu-Gi-Oh! series. He was a game-loving, ordinary high school student until the day he solved the Millennium Puzzle that his grandfather had given to him. Upon its completion, Yugi's soul had fused with the spirit of the ancient pharaoh Atem...
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If we go of our profiles as they are right now, then Ash should win, but I don't know how we determine "accuracy" from these outdated profiles.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Should it be just Wrong Bad? I do wonder does Yugi even have that much hax listed either.
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TBF didn’t we in these situations when we’re missing stuff in the profiles we mark it as iffy/Unrankable until we get updates? ie Raven vs Twilight, Zatanna Vs Scarlet Witch?

Because the profile is missing so much I would not be surprised if it gets deleted like how Raven’s profile was for being so garbage like this would not pass QA if submitted today.
 
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Buffy has Key with AP that she would win with. Outdated profile unfortunately doesnt make it Iffy, it makes it just Wrong.

But uhh anyone else want to put it in Iffy instead? Ig if most here would want that instead Ill change it.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Should it be just Wrong Bad? I do wonder does Yugi even have that much hax listed either.
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He does
TMaakkonen said:
Buffy has Key with AP that she would win with. Outdated profile unfortunately doesnt make it Iffy, it makes it just Wrong.

But uhh anyone else want to put it in Iffy instead? Ig if most here would want that instead I’ll change it.
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Like with how we lacked a proper key/profile for Raven we lack a proper key/profile for Buffy
 
Abysswalker2126 said:
No originally Raven had a profile that was missing stuff but it got deleted outright later
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Yes yes, but the profile was deleted and didnt exist during PhoenixRaven so it was ranked Unrankable when we first put it here. As of now, there is a Yugi profile, so it can be ranked.
 
TMaakkonen said:
Yes yes, but the profile was deleted and didnt exist during PhoenixRaven so it was ranked Unrankable when we first put it here. As of now, there is a Yugi profile, so it can be ranked.
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But clearly we and everyone else know that profile we have is absolutely the reason it is “Wrong” and DB isn’t to blame

Don’t we have in the rules you wrote that we should acknowledge that is the Fault of the VBW and not DB?
 
Abysswalker2126 said:
But clearly we and everyone else know that profile we have is absolutely the reason it is “Wrong” and DB isn’t to blame

Don’t we have in the rules you wrote that we should acknowledge that is the Fault of the VBW and not DB?
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We actually dont. In fact, this kind odd situation is why KorraStorm was at one point Wrong lmao

But I see, should we include a new category then? Or maybe to add for Iffy that profiles can be outdated and lack information? AshYugi could be moved to Iffy due to outdated profiles. How many would want this kind of method to be used?
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
The kof counterparts of Terry, Mai and Geese (lesser degree then other two), have huge buffs to them, the latest kof title for Mai episode kof13 in 2010, meanwhile Death Battle had that fight in early days

Although i dont remember if they included kof on the first two or not precisely, but if they did...well they are tier 2 as of right now

For Geese, as of right now, he scales above in AP by like hundreds of times, along speed by like a x1.21 in difference against base Heihachi, but loses to full power by a huge margin that is one shot blitz

On top of not being as haxed in comparison or having ways around Heihachi stuff at all:

-ki attacks can be nulled by him and even utilize it for dura neg like Kazuya to harm organs

-has better electricity in combarison and do what Geese can and more, on top of resisting his

-has fire manip too and can resist his too along heat resistance as well

-can null physical blows and use vibrations to make Geese lose balance, launch him airborn from the ground either standing or laid down

Depending how you wanna see skill and experience, Heihachi has 32 years ahead of Geese in age and fought ki projectile users like Akuma, Heihachi fought individuals versed in more styles or characters who beaten these, Jin, Ogre, etc

All of this is based on info available at the time of the episode also
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Bumping it, now characters are 2-A and FTL
 
With no double post danger and waiting a bit, it seems 4 people agree on moving AshYugi to iffy. I'll start moving it there.

If someone disagrees, argue again :V
 
Pffft yeah right, the KoF guy? Good one. No way are things deranged enough tha-

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Geese Howard (The King of Fighters)

Geese Howard is the chief antagonist of the Fatal Fury series and a secondary villain in the Art of Fighting series, which takes place in a same canon/continuity. His role varies in The King of Fighters continuities, though he is the true antagonist in The King of Fighters Neowave. Tier: High...
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God ******* dammit
 
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Pffft yeah right, the KoF guy? Good one. No way are things deranged enough tha-

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Geese Howard (The King of Fighters)

Geese Howard is the chief antagonist of the Fatal Fury series and a secondary villain in the Art of Fighting series, which takes place in a same canon/continuity. His role varies in The King of Fighters continuities, though he is the true antagonist in The King of Fighters Neowave. Tier: High...
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God ******* dammit
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Was it at the time though?
 
BlackDarkness679 said:
The kof counterparts of Terry, Mai and Geese (lesser degree then other two), have huge buffs to them, the latest kof title for Mai episode kof13 in 2010, meanwhile Death Battle had that fight in early days

Although i dont remember if they included kof on the first two or not precisely, but if they did...well they are tier 2 as of right now

For Geese, as of right now, he scales above in AP by like hundreds of times, along speed by like a x1.21 in difference against base Heihachi, but loses to full power by a huge margin that is one shot blitz

On top of not being as haxed in comparison or having ways around Heihachi stuff at all:

-ki attacks can be nulled by him and even utilize it for dura neg like Kazuya to harm organs

-has better electricity in comparison and do what Geese can and more, on top of resisting his

-has fire manip too and can resist his too along heat resistance as well

-can null physical blows and use vibrations to make Geese lose balance, launch him airborn from the ground either standing or laid down

Depending how you wanna see skill and experience, Heihachi has 32 years ahead of Geese in age and fought ki projectile users like Akuma, Heihachi fought individuals versed in more styles or characters who beaten these, Jin, Ogre, etc

All of this is based on info available at the time of the episode also
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Imma bump what I said more then a month ago for Heihachi vs Geese also
 
I dunno if the 3 matches had any updates in description or such, can it be pointed for Terry and Mai something, even with info available then and afterwards

Heihachi vs Geese i pointed things on it way back
 
TMaakkonen said:
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By the way, how are you going to rate Dio vs. Alucard now that the Hellsing downgrades have finally happened?

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Dio Brando

Dio Brando (ディオ・ブランドー, Dio Burandō?) is the main antagonist in JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part I: Phantom Blood and Part III: Stardust Crusaders. After the death of his abusive and alcoholic father, Dio was sent to live with the Joestar family to repay a debt owed to his father by George Joestar...
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Alucard (Hellsing)

Alucard (アーカード, Ākādo?) is the main protagonist of the Hellsing series created by Kouta Hirano. He is the most powerful weapon of the Hellsing Organization which works against vampires and other such supernatural forces. Alucard is no mere Vampire, he's in fact, Dracula; it has been implied that...
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AP looks same tier but DIO has crazy speed advantage. Did Al get hax downgrades? Need to figure out can DIO kill Al using VSW stuff.
 
Alucard has both mind hax and resistance to it, whereas Dio only has the hax. So Alucard would have the edge in a mind hax battle. The other issue is that Dio has no win condition if Schrodinger is used.

It is also interesting that they used a non-canon anime feat for Dio while Alucard's strongest state was explicitly not used.
 
Apex_Predator_GX said:
So they used a composite version of Dio and a heavily downplayed Alucard.
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Not quite composite, but since Eyes of Heaven is literally a different Dio from a different universe, they did basically composite the regular Dio by giving him non-canon anime feats. They did that while refusing to use Schrodinger on the grounds of not knowing how his abilities work, even though we've seen how Schrodinger works due to Schrodinger's own actions and due to Alucard using the power to return from non-existence. The fact they claimed Dio could mind hax Alucard while ignoring that Alucard would actually have a massive edge in that mental battle only further proves how biased they were.
 
I think it was that Schrodinger Al cant be used while having all other abilities.

Now that I think about it didnt they also say "it would be a draw at best" which is funny after ScoobCourage.
 
TMaakkonen said:
I think it was that Schrodinger Al cant be used while having all other abilities.
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Which forces them to choose one or the other. They chose the weaker version, contrary to their claim to use the characters' maximum potential.

They themselves admitted that Alucard's Level 0 is overrated in-universe and poses more threat to Alucard himself than to Dio, and meanwhile Schrodinger leaves Dio unable to kill Alucard except via flesh bud which might not work anyway and leaves Dio even more open to Alucard's own mind hax, which Dio has no resistance to.

The fact that they backed this up by declaring how "cool" it looked to show Dio fighting the undead army and how they couldn't not show that, only further demonstrates this problem. At best this demonstrates that maximum potential matters less than what they thought looked good, and at worst it's an excuse not to use Schrodinger.
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Now that I think about it didnt they also say "it would be a draw at best" which is funny after ScoobCourage.
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What happened was one of their people wrote a blog years earlier that said Dio would win for the exact reasons they laid out. Obviously they stuck to that and twisted various factors (use of non-canon material, not using Alucard at his strongest, ignoring Alucard's superior mental hax prowess) to accommodate it.
 
Does mind hax even matter if Dio just blitzes in speed and time stops, when is Alucard gonna have an opportunity to mind hax

Also they said schrodinger cant be done with his usual powers together, cuz thats a canon thing established, schrodinger may be his best but like, how long he had it at all, you seen him use them after?

His usual arsenal was the most well known and used of the two and how a character will usually face Alucard, Dio getting anime and manga isnt new, they do it for most characters, dragon ball had even movies and some games used at times, you can call wank on his bigger stats, but he is still like beating Alucard stat wise
 
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