Jujutsu Kaisen Discussion Page #1

[Rodriiogo]

You genuinely have to do Mr Fantastic times Luffy levels of stretching to reach the conclusion that its a perspective shot. Also for some reason downgrade kashimo's intelligence cause why did he target PANDA on the head but not hakari who he knew was stronger and WAS TARGETTING HAKARI'S HEAD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE FIGHT

Kashimo literally focus his hits on his head the entire fight even before the first lightning, then he just forgor he transitioned the positive energy to the head and aimed at the arm? Is he stupid?

 

[Qurbonboev]

Btw, can calc below be modified to be valid? I think it could be promising

Jujutsu Kaisen: Sukuna Speed Feats

vsbattles.fandom.com

 

[BiggestOpp]

????? Re-read what I sent and stop using john werry's terrorist translations. Kashimo simply notes that even if hes "immortal" a hit to the head would immediatly kill him so he'll make sure to pinpoint it to explode on his head. Its like if I aim at someone's heart, they dodge it and it actually hits their arm so they regen, I can still say "if I touch their heart with a direct hit, even with their regen they will die so I will pinpoint my hits to explode his heart" that doesnt mean I didnt target the heart already?? Thats such a huge stretch man

I’m not using JW.
Kashimo is already targeting the head, why is he saying he’s going to pinpoint on the head? He was already going to do this, we know you can’t RCT if your head is gone, it just seems like a weird thing to say, imo.
It’s interpretation my guy, it doesn’t really help that Hakari literally got hit by it while he was using more power.
Bro almost died for Lols I guess?

 

[Arkenis]

Real

Maybe in another universe

 

[Mommyleona]

So are you telling me right now, we don't scale base Yuta relative to Ryu. Even though it was base Yuta that fought Ryu, and defeated him, and not only tanked multiple blows from Base Ryu but also harmed base Ryu without the need of his domain or CT. That Yuta isn't relative to Ryu is what you're trying to say we currently rate things as?

It's Elde, dont bother, guy hates Yuta and Maki

 

[Mommyleona]

Think I'm gonna quit doing JJK scaling stuff, a consistently subsonic verse getting downgraded to superhuman is ridiculous

-3

 

[Saqphire]

I ain't debating why words used to describe something only work because the words used actually give a general good idea of said thing with you here, sorry but no sane individual or author is gonna write something along the lines of "light is so fast, it's faster than snails" without it being comedy or smth.

Weird how I never got any notification for this one. But anyways, go see Sonic's scaling with their "faster than sound" statements with their MFTL+ feats co-existing bub. Same with Dragon Ball's supersonic Nimbus with their MFTL+ combat speed as Rodriigo pointed out or DC who has Black Canary being faster than Transonic (and thus faster than her own sonic waves) and come back to me saying "no author would do this!!!!"

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

There's what should be done and what will be done because JJK fans enjoy gutting their own verse than do anything worthwhile fixing it.
Like, I'm not even talking about really high speed scaling (I think the verse's consistently supersonic+ and Gojo/sukuna hypersonic [though, this may change with Dabura]). All i've heard since i've joined this thread is that "the profiles suck" or "inverse scaling sucks" and, instead of doing anything meaningful by fixing them, they wanna break them even further till we're all wondering,"What the hell happened here" cuz "Downgrading the verse I support then leaving others to pick up the pieces sounds fun"

My b folks. I swear I had no bad intentions

 

[Mommyleona]

My b folks. I swear I had no bad intentions

 

[Arkenis]

There's what should be done and what will be done because JJK fans enjoy gutting their own verse than do anything worthwhile fixing it.
Like, I'm not even talking about really high speed scaling (I think the verse's consistently supersonic+ and Gojo/sukuna hypersonic [though, this may change with Dabura]). All i've heard since i've joined this thread is that "the profiles suck" or "inverse scaling sucks" and, instead of doing anything meaningful by fixing them, they wanna break them even further till we're all wondering,"What the hell happened here" cuz "Downgrading the verse I support then leaving others to pick up the pieces sounds fun"

Rodrigo and Apotheosis have been working on an update for ap since we got H7C accepted. I and M3x were working on updates since 2024,
We just have a lot of recalcs and upgrades going on, instead of focusing on one thing at a time that it looks like we're ******* everything up.
I wanted to place a lock on the verse's crt's to focus on one thing at a time but mods weren't in favor from the ones I asked iirc.
AP should basically be a resolved issue for high tiers, then we can focus on mid tiers scaling.

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Real

EldemadeDityjon to Naoya

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

My b folks. I swear I had no bad intentions

• Swears to have no bad intentions
• Plans to quit after getting JJK capped at superhuman despite consistent subsonic feats to leave others to pick up the pieces
• Is a liar and a gooner

Rodrigo and Apotheosis have been working on an update for ap since we got H7C accepted. I and M3x were working on updates since 2024,
We just have a lot of recalcs and upgrades going on, instead of focusing on one thing at a time that it looks like we're ******* everything up.
I wanted to place a lock on the verse's crt's to focus on one thing at a time but mods weren't in favor from the ones I asked iirc.
AP should basically be a resolved issue for high tiers, then we can focus on mid tiers scaling.

the hell does ap matter when Shibuya Yuji's stuck at superhuman

 

[Arkenis]

the hell does ap matter when Shibuya Yuji's stuck at superhuman

This why. Stop worrying about speed, focus on concrete ap scaling first. Then we can tackle the more controversial stat. Idk why everyone is so incessant on speed shit.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

• Swears to have no bad intentions
• Plans to quit after getting JJK capped at superhuman despite consistent subsonic feats
• liar

I'm ngl, I just made the thread so Laser and Rodrigo could move on from the speed cap. I really thought that the CRT would be finished within 3 pages since it's just the classic feats x dumb logic.

But this fandom cannot find consensus at all, and it seems that 16m/s is also being argued to be FTE for sorcerers so I guess the true value is below average human for everyone

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

JJK Supports: destroy speed scaling beyond repair for ***** and giggles while leaving profiles in a state of disarray
Also JJK Supports when you call them out on it: No, wait guys, I didn't do it with bad intentions. We are working on the profiles, trust

This why. Stop worrying about speed, focus on concrete ap scaling first. Then we can tackle the more controversial stat. Idk why everyone is so incessant on speed shit.

Speed is vital for concrete working profiles and most of ya'll just plan to dip after getting us capped on superhuman

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I don’t even get how this superhuman speed nonsense even got off the ground. Kenjaku (who Yuki scales to and Choso can react to), Grade 1 Geto (who Toji is faster than) and Goodwill Maki (who cursed energy less Yuji is faster than) have feats of reacting to bullets.

 

[Arkenis]

Speed is vital for concrete working profiles and most of ya'll just plan to dip after getting us capped on superhuman

Ap is vital and it's less controversial. That's all.

 

[Robo432343]

I don’t even get how this superhuman speed nonsense even got off the ground. Kenjaku (who Yuki scales to and Choso can react to), Grade 1 Geto (who Toji is faster than) and Goodwill Maki (who cursed energy less Yuji is faster than) have feats of reacting to bullets.

this wiki is cooked

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

Ap is vital and it's less controversial. That's all.

Pretty sure Laser is gonna make a tier 8 CRT for heavy hitters if the superhuman speed pass

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

Ap is vital and it's less controversial. That's all.

we shouldn't really care that it's controversial, it needs fixed so we should just do it properly instead of "let's just cap the verse, fix ap, then fight like hell to get out of the cap WE put ourselves in"
Take inspo from the CSM supports and make a Mega CRT with all the feats and evidence for concrete scaling instead of just "let's downgrade and look for anti-feats then dip"

 

[Electronic74947]

Yk I find it funny how everyone was complaining about the speed cap......like yall weren't the ones who pointed it out in the first place then made a crt about it.


You guys might be the dumbest supporters I've ever seen

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

LoK don't make a new thread don't do it bro

Kt still wants to argue it and I prefer to solve it at once as soon as possible.

 

[Rodriiogo]

I'm ngl, I just made the thread so Laser and Rodrigo could move on from the speed cap. I really thought that the CRT would be finished within 3 pages since it's just the classic feats x dumb logic.

But this fandom cannot find consensus at all, and it seems that 16m/s is also being argued to be FTE for sorcerers so I guess the true value is below average human for everyone

Tbf I was willing to argue on it until I was met with just the most dingeneous and impossible to argue arguments of all time. It got to a point where we're just lying that feats don't matter if random bold words say otherwise which I can't argue if that's how the wiki wants to go off, it's just stupid and disingeneous it looks like ragebait atp man

 

[Insert_creative_name_here_12]

I feel like most supporters of a verse have this issue of dismissing consistency to shoot for the highest values possible but somehow JJK has the exact opposite. We got people hyperfixating on singular statements or showings and opting to throw out the like dozen or so statements and feats that go against it.

Is consistency just disliked on this website?

 

[Mommyleona]

Yk I find it funny how everyone was complaining about the speed cap......like yall weren't the ones who pointed it out in the first place then made a crt about it.


You guys might be the dumbest supporters I've ever seen

"Im not like yall" ahh

 

[Arkenis]

we shouldn't really care that it's controversial, it needs fixed so we should just do it properly instead of "let's just cap the verse, fix ap, then fight like hell to get out of the cap WE put ourselves in"
Take inspo from the CSM supports and make a Mega CRT with all the feats and evidence for concrete scaling instead of just "let's downgrade and look for anti-feats then dip"

We should care, because it stops us from getting ap out the way. We can do it properly, LOK gonna do a staff thread.
We could do a mega crt but so far everyone's just been dropping their own crts lmao.

 

[Mommyleona]

make a Mega CRT with all the feats and evidence for concrete scaling instead of just "let's downgrade and look for anti-feats then dip"

"like that's ever gonna happen"

 

[Rodriiogo]

Yk I find it funny how everyone was complaining about the speed cap......like yall weren't the ones who pointed it out in the first place then made a crt about it.


You guys might be the dumbest supporters I've ever seen

??? The speed cap has been an issue since nearly August 8, 2022 (when chapter 193 released) since feats have been getting ignored and just swept under the rug because of naoya's statement. It's ridiculous to do that so ofc people will bring it up how nonsense the statement is

 

[Electronic74947]

??? The speed cap has been an issue since nearly August 8, 2022 (when chapter 193 released) since feats have been getting ignored and just swept under the rug because of naoya's statement. It's ridiculous to do that so ofc people will bring it up how nonsense the statement is

Im talking about the superhuman cap

 

[Electronic74947]

Is consistency just disliked on this website?

We have goku at low multi instead of fire hydrant and lava level, kny at city level and deku at relativistic. You tell me

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

JJK Supports fighting tooth and nail to downgrade their own verse to avoid fixing profiles they claim are so bad

JJK Supports giving up on their god-awful speed scaling because it's "controversial"

 

[Rodriiogo]

The people in support of the speed cap will tell you capping stuff like this at mach 7 makes sense because "well they stated he was moving at mach 7 in this scene!"

Im talking about the superhuman cap

The superhuman cap is just an extension of what should happen if the transonic-supersonic cap is kept. Cause if we're gonna be nitpicky and just use statements then we must go all the way. I think the superhuman cap just showcases how AWFUL the transonic-supersonic cap since it makes superhuman the more consistent way.

 

[LIFE_OF_KING]

I think you folks are kinda overreacting cuz so far only Kt agrees with the speed cap and Due disagrees with it

 

[Electronic74947]

The people in support of the speed cap will tell you capping stuff like this at mach 7 makes sense because "well they stated he was moving at mach 7 in this scene!"

Ngl they should be. That verse is the definition of inconsistent

The superhuman cap is just an extension of what should happen if the transonic-supersonic cap is kept. Cause if we're gonna be nitpicky and just use statements then we must go all the way. I think the superhuman cap just showcases how AWFUL the transonic-supersonic cap since it makes superhuman the more consistent way.

Notice how nobody brought it up for 3 years though?

 

[Robo432343]

In agreement with a full cap. - Arkenis

 

[Rodriiogo]

Ngl they should be. That verse is the definition of inconsistent

Notice how nobody brought it up for 3 years though?

Because they (the speed cap supporters) wanna believe their cap is consistent so they won't bring up how their own cap makes subsonic in itself inconsistent. It's an issue regardless.

 

[Arkenis]

I feel like most supporters of a verse have this issue of dismissing consistency to shoot for the highest values possible but somehow JJK has the exact opposite. We got people hyperfixating on singular statements or showings and opting to throw out the like dozen or so statements and feats that go against it.

Is consistency just disliked on this website?

Everything can't be the highest value ever. This isn't hyper fixating, it's reading the manga and understanding stuff can't be dismissed for the sake of big number. There's practically no statement in the story that says anything about a character being faster than supersonic. Other verse supporters have been feasting on high balled out the ass scales and when supporters of a verse go "yeah... idt the verse is mhs and country level" we dislike consistency??

 

[Mommyleona]

I think you folks are kinda overreacting cuz so far only Kt agrees with the speed cap and Due disagrees with it

watch it end in under 1 page with everyone agreeing on the cap once staff thread drops

 

[Electronic74947]

I mean they can't even search the city in 99% of episodes ngl. Search up madvocate flash

Because they (the speed cap supporters) wanna believe their cap is consistent so they won't bring up how their own cap makes subsonic in itself inconsistent. It's an issue regardless.

And who brought it up first?

 

[Anonymous_Learner]

We should care, because it stops us from getting ap out the way. We can do it properly, LOK gonna do a staff thread.

All I'm saying is that we shouldn't avoid speed like a goddamn plague just cuz it's controversial. Because it's controversial, we should prepare much arguments to counter it.
Hell, it doesn't even seem that controversial seeing as how we able to upgrade it multiple times and even get a bum like kashimo to rela. JJK just gotta lock in, it ain't that hard

We could do a mega crt but so far everyone's just been dropping their own crts lmao.

It's cuz we're so disjointed with some people with people being against any upgrades and those too eager.