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Btw, since when travel speed = battle speed?
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GRACE [0-0-0] Battle Of The Evil Kings - Demon King Piccolo Vs Grand Regent Thragg
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Depends on the character. Like DBZ has extremely low travel speed compared to combat.
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i think we should just equalize speed again, get the last piccolo votes in then we can make an unequalized match.
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Also, we have rules about remaking matches with the same characters unless something meaningful has happened (like a CRT).
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If that's how ya wanna frame it sure.
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How about you cope and seethe and instead of whinning, go make a CRT making all speed equalized fights in the wiki null and void?
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what is blud yapping about
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Chariot complaining about how Piccolo wins with speed equalized
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Lol, yeah ok, I probably COULD do something like that if we being real, but ignoring that, that doesn't change what I said at all now does it?
Of course not, you don't have an actual answer to what I said, which was a joke btw but obviously it struck a nerve there, so case in point ig.
And aren't you the person who is complaining Piccolo doesn't get a free billion times handicap now and has to actually win on his own merit/abilities using what he's actually capable of now? I mean, it is what it is, speed is unequal atm, so I don't really got to do a thing here.
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i dunno, to me, it just looks you're trying everything to keep your precious thragg from getting an L.
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Uh, newsflash lil buddy, my first post was after speed was unequalized.
That shit had nothing to do with me, but you don't see me complaining about Piccolo no longer having to actually fend for himself do ya? Do you REALLY not see the irony in your posts?
Eh well it doesn't matter, tell me, what exactly is Piccolo doing here to get around Thragg's speed gap? Like if you wanna say something, say something about the actual match instead of derailing.
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save me speed equal!!! - piccolo
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I do think the fight should have the speed equalized to respect the previous votes then you can make a new match with some other character with speed unequal.
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Speed is will not be equalized. The votes have been removed
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Piccolo fra. He has better regeneration, fighting skills(Piccolo=Kid Goku>Roshi, who's the master of all martial arts, when Conquest is just a good fighter), and fighting speed(Conquest has enormous travel speed, but it's not the same as reaction or fighting speed).
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Invincible (Verse)
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I know about smart Atoms, but the problem is that character needs to accelerate to this extend to have the same reaction speed, but we don't know how fast they accelerate. Allen's feat is kinda useless because they noticed him before and started to slow down and eventually stop near Allen, so Allen reacted on slowed down ship but we don't know it's speed at this time(Viltrimites could saw he before so they could slow down, good feat but not mftl+, more like an unknown speed). Conquest just saw and accelerated to the ship, the moment when he saw it wasn't a reaction feat, but a...good eyes feat. The moment with Thragg and father/son has the same problem, we don't know how fast Viltimites can accelerate so we can't fully scale their travel speed to reaction speed(in not flight). Space Racer isn't a fighter, so he couldn't keep up with fast characters that aren't moving in not straight line(doesn't proves base MFTL+ speed).?
Invincible (Verse)
For detailed information about this franchise, visit the verse Wikis for the comic and the show. Invincible is an American comic book series written by Robert Kirkman, illustrated by Cory Walker and published by Image Comics. The series began publication on January 22, 2003, concluding on...
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ngl I don't get anything of your text
If you disagree with that note, you should make an CRT to remove it.
And also, due to SBA, they start in their both best conditions, means his top acceleration/speed ofc.
If you disagree with that note, you should make an CRT to remove it.
And also, due to SBA, they start in their both best conditions, means his top acceleration/speed ofc.
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I don't think it shouldn't be there, just it's not their initial speed and in a fair fight they can't get this speed. But if it's SBA, then he has it...but I still think Piccolo can win via regeneration and the fact Conquest needs to stop(lost reaction speed) or move a large distances to not lose speed and attack Piccolo
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I am not expert on Thragh, but I am sure that if he sees adversary that have bullshit regen(and is much stronger) he would just go nuclear
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Muslim Piccolo theory
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Real goddamn fast given Mark could jump out of a still moving MFTL+ ship, not get left behind instantly, and moreover instantly start outpacing the fastest ship in the Coalition.
Doesn't work, Allen himself was already moving at top MFTL speed and the ship was moving parallel.
We actually do as above.
The ship is MFTL, if he didn't accelerate INSTANTLY the ship would have been lightyears away by the time he reached where he saw it.
This is straight up wrong, we see Mark instantly hit top speed on the planet fight and Thragg instantly intercepts anyway and can track, react, and rip his skin off.
Uh, he literally is, he's jut not AS fast. The fact he can get instant blitzed by them regardless, despite having MFTL reactions...
Man ignoring the fact it's accepted they're MFTL all around and DON'T need to accelerate so if ya don't like it, ya gotta make a CRT, there's like three dozen examples of them being MFTL anyway.
Like ya don't even wanna get into Techjacket (who gets instant blitzed by viltrumites on screen, despite having instant FTL feats), among others.
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Do lemme know if thragg wins this so on the spot i can make a new one with speed equalized.
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Youre literally not allowed.
Per versus thread rules, one should avoid making the same matches after one has concluded unless something meaningful has changed with the combatants (like CRT so stat changes, abilities, etc).
Read the rules please before posting.
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I favor Thragg, with higher LG and massively higher speed, BFR is a very real option. Daimo can't do much while careening through interstellar space at untold millions c.
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honestly what can piccolo do if he's getting utterly blitzed by thragg and sent into space
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His speed all around has to be relative to his travel speed
He maneuvers around entire star systems I think this logic is even accepted on site.
Ki users can sense evil intent and have a type of "precognition" via sensing.
I'm not sure if this helps against entire blitz tiers, but they usually use this against teleporters or Z Vanish.
I think King Piccolo has the skill edge.
Thragg is just too fast.
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tbf not really, thragg goes toe to toe with a guy that is a master in every martial arts in the universe and wins
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These are just words without any achievements.
Besides, did they have the same stats?
Allen is described as one of the most skilled warriors in the universe, but all he's done in the comics is street style.
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yes, its battle beast
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Bro that's literally all of DB's skill. DB's legit most practical skill feat is some early DB like 21st budokai scenes.
Fought for 3 days straight without rest they were that equal.
Bro every single fight in DB post like Tien is just fast looking punches.
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I'm not defending DB in this case, I'm simply saying that this skill evaluation system is simply unconvincing. Especially when Battle Beast doesn't use or demonstrate its combat prowess and fights like a wild beast, relying on its strength, claws, fangs, and weapons. He's an unstoppable force, but I'm surprised he's a master of every martial art in the universe.
The problem is that if you balance the stats and pit Battle Beast against Kanoh Agito and Retsu Kaioh, based on statements and quotes, Battle Beast should be superior. But based on demonstrated skills, real martial artists simply wipe the floor with them and don't let them touch them.
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Uh, wtf are you talking about? He fights predominately with HTH weapons (which he's also stated to be a master of every hand based weapon in the universe btw).
You can see this in his own comic run, and he boxes viltrumites who are actively trained, and shown, with some pretty damn good HTH choreography.
The problem is since when tf were they piccolo? If you wanna go by demonstrated skill, Demon King Piccolo has only ever used basic punches and beams, most even have giant wind ups and tells on panel. His actual on panel feats are pathetic and don't convey any skill whatsoever.
Instead of comparing drawn feats to characters that aren't even in this match, compare it to the person who actually matters under the same lens.
And I pray "he fought Goku" isn't your answer because if you get into cross boxing, then you bring in dudes like Robot, Best Tiger, and more who all have some wacky mid combat skill showings.
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Bro, I literally haven't written a single word about Piccolo's skills. I don't understand DB and didn't even vote in this match.
I don't know what impressed you so much about Invincible's choreography. Without being ironic, could you please show me some examples? I only remember headbutts, basic boxing moves, and aerial kicks.
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