Spamton vs Kaneki (Deltarune vs Tokyo Ghoul) ([ 2-7-3 ]

[NikHelton]

But fear hax doesn't work like normal fear, it's supernatural fear and Kaneki can induce such fear that it forces his opponents to flee mid-battle. Spamton has no resistance to it.

But he has it in another key, so it doesn't matter in this match.

I remember the scene where during the assault on the 20th district, Kaneki made a soldier choke with fear and wet his pants and drop his weapon

 

[M2u12]

I remember the scene where during the assault on the 20th district, Kaneki made a soldier choke with fear and wet his pants and drop his weapon

Ch? i need to see full feat since it could be just Social Influencing

 

[Mikazzzuchi]

Given the above, Kaneki will simply dodge all attacks without taking soul damage, and then tear Spamton to pieces via his advantage in AP, skills, and piercing damage.

My vote goes to Eyepatch.

 

[God_of_perversion]

Given the above, Kaneki will simply dodge all attacks without taking soul damage, and then tear Spamton to pieces via his advantage in AP, skills, and piercing damage.

My vote goes to Eyepatch.

Treating Spantom as if he is kid with no skill

 

[God_of_perversion]

Spantom isn't is mentaly as skilled in cqc but he is way more skilled in danmaku dodging while having danmaku on a level kaneki has never dodged before combine that with a hundreads of killometers of danmaku range + superior LS + regen that kaneki can't negate + a giant form that is 20m+ in size its pretty clear Spantom has good chance of winning. Spantom extreme diffs

 

[M2u12]

Treating Spantom as if he is kid with no skill

Ah, how skill is Spantom compare to Kaneki? Since yk in profile Spantom intelligence is Above Average while Kaneki is a genius. (Even though kinda it's outdated)

 

[God_of_perversion]

B

Ah, how skill is Spantom compare to Kaneki? Since yk in profile Spantom intelligence is Above Average while Kaneki is a genius. (Even though kinda it's outdated)

Skilled enought to fight the chapter 2 fun gang and they deadass needed the player to take a new form just to deafeat him

 

[M2u12]

Spantom isn't is mentaly as skilled in cqc but he is way more skilled in danmaku dodging

OK.

while having danmaku on a level kaneki has never dodged before

Honestly, how is Spamton’s danmaku more impressive than what Kaneki can dodge? From what I’ve seen, Higher Mind danmaku is actually more impressive. Which Kouma can dodge.

combine that with a hundreads of killometers of danmaku range

Idk How is that even going to help? Kaneki only needs to dodge the projectiles coming at him, it’s not like he’s 50 km tall.

+ superior LS

NO Both of them are equal here.

+ regen that kaneki can't negate

Didn't a Deltarune supporter already mention that Spamton hasn't shown any feats of regenerating from fatal attacks? + kaneki not going to get hit here

+ a giant form that is 20m+ in size

Bigger target for Kaneki to hit, nice.

its pretty clear Spantom has good chance of winning. Spantom extreme diffs

Idk about that.

B
Skilled enought to fight the chapter 2 fun gang and they deadass needed the player to take a new form just to deafeat him

Not as impressive as Kaneki ig.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Why is spamtons regen high low?

it should be low-mid

 

[God_of_perversion]

NO Both of them are equal here.

Spantom is higher via upscaling a already higher value

OK.

Honestly, how is Spamton’s danmaku more impressive than what Kaneki can dodge? From what I’ve seen, Higher Mind danmaku is actually more impressive. Which Kouma can dodge.

Idk How is that even going to help? Kaneki only needs to dodge the projectiles coming at him, it’s not like he’s 50 km tall.

NO Both of them are equal here.

Didn't a Deltarune supporter already mention that Spamton hasn't shown any feats of regenerating from fatal attacks? + kaneki not going to get hit here

Bigger target for Kaneki to hit, nice.

Idk about that.

Not as impressive as Kaneki ig.

Spantom can regenerate his eyes,nose,mouth and heart multiple times during the fight
Being bigger is actually worse for piercing wepons such as kaneki's
And spantom literally 2-3 shots with normal attacks and has a attack which literally one shots kaneki (via soul damage)

 

[God_of_perversion]

Don't forget Spantom has close range danmaku if you try to attack his body

 

[NikHelton]

Spantom isn't is mentaly as skilled in cqc but he is way more skilled in danmaku dodging while having danmaku on a level kaneki has never dodged before combine that with a hundreads of killometers of danmaku range

Hundreds of meters for attacks and tens of kilometers for reality warping (he doesn't have attacks at such distances, he can just create large locations

superior LS

Hah

regen that kaneki can't negate

Kaneki's attacks aren't small, neat cuts, but rather holes the size of half a body and severed limbs. This is beyond Spamton's regeneration capabilities

The profile says he uses Bluelight when he's feeling down. What's stopping Kaneki from using a speed amp and killing him with one precise hit? Furthermore, the profile says he's prone to glitches and has weak points like wires.

 

[M2u12]

Spantom is higher via upscaling a already higher value

Ahh Did you read the previous message? NikHelton already explained why they are equal.

Spantom can regenerate his eyes,nose,mouth and heart multiple times during the fight

Ok, something that Kaneki deals with every day after dinner.

Being bigger is actually worse for piercing wepons such as kaneki's

Kaneki doesn't just have to pierce, he can shape his kagune into blades to slash him. Him getting bigger still makes him the bigger target.

And spantom literally 2-3 shots with normal attacks and has a attack which literally one shots kaneki (via soul damage)

Don't forget Spantom has close range danmaku if you try to attack his body

Kaneki sees it in slow motion via Perception Amp and aim-dodges it then + He was fighting against someone like Shinohara, who had deal with that before.

 

[God_of_perversion]

Hundreds of meters for attacks and tens of kilometers for reality warping (he doesn't have attacks at such distances, he can just create large locations

I mixed up metters and killometers

 

[God_of_perversion]

Ahh Did you read the previous message? NikHelton already explained why they are equal.

And they're still not equal??

 

[God_of_perversion]

And why do yall think spantom gonna be a ditting duck lol his gonna dodge too

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Now idk about how spamton deals with ANPR, perc manip, and I.A but blue specil makes it to where attacks from characters comparable to him do barely any damage

assuming both are capped at 8A then I don't think kaneki will be able to one shot him even with AD and kakuja amps

 

[God_of_perversion]

Any way are kaneki's class g feat done trought amps or Ad? Also he is baseline class m but can grow to class g right?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Any way are kaneki's class g feat done trought amps or Ad? Also he is baseline class m but can grow to class g right?

since this is part 1 kaneki then yea

 

[M2u12]

And they're still not equal??

? I'm really confused about what you're trying to say.

And why do yall think spantom gonna be a ditting duck lol his gonna dodge too

Yeah, if he doesn't have analytical skills like Kaneki's,

tell me, how is he supposed to dodge attacks that are pre-calculated. and have limit resist to analysis like Kagune?

 

[NikHelton]

Any way are kaneki's class g feat done trought amps or Ad? Also he is baseline class m but can grow to class g right?

This key is Class G in its base state, and its LS increases with AP in both Kakuja and AD

 

[Delusionaltx2]

This key is Class G in its base state, and its LS increases with AP in both Kakuja and AD

Wait a min, kanekis first key is being used here though-

 

[God_of_perversion]

This key is Class G in its base state, and its LS increases with AP in both Kakuja and AD

Then why does it say "class M up to class G"?

 

[M2u12]

Wait a min, kanekis first key is being used here though-

Then why does it say "class M up to class G"?

that why his profile need revision

 

[NikHelton]

Now idk about how spamton deals with ANPR, perc manip, and I.A but blue specil makes it to where attacks from characters comparable to him do barely any damage

assuming both are capped at 8A then I don't think kaneki will be able to one shot him even with AD and kakuja amps

It just scales infinitely within 8-A. Yeah, it's weird, but that's how it works. If we have a character that scales to 800 tons and a character that one-shots the one who one-shots the one who scales above 800 tons, the second character will have a huge AP advantage, even though they've seemingly reached 4/5 of the 8-A ceiling.

 

[NikHelton]

Then why does it say "class M up to class G"?

Because Class M is before Kaneki's Kano Lab arc, and Class G is after

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Because Class M is before Kaneki's Kano Lab arc, and Class G is after

shouldn't those be seperated into different keys then?

 

[NikHelton]

Wait a min, kanekis first key is being used here though-

It's Part 1 EoS Kaneki, but 7-C/High 7-C was restricted

 

[NikHelton]

shouldn't those be seperated into different keys then?

Our GOAT12 is doing just that right now.

 

[Delusionaltx2]

It's Part 1 EoS Kaneki, but 7-C/High 7-C was restricted

So was the second portion of part one suppose to scale to the 7-Cs?

 

[Delusionaltx2]

Our GOAT12 is doing just that right now.

ah ok then

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Leaning towards Big Shot

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

Kaneki Vs Tenna next when

 

[NikHelton]

So was the second portion of part one suppose to scale to the 7-Cs?

7-C refers to the battle with Arima. Just consider it Kaneki up to this point.

 

[M2u12]

Kaneki Vs Tenna next when

I'm begging your guy, please be patient and wait for his new profile before making any new Versus Threads

 

[Delusionaltx2]

7-C refers to the battle with Arima. Just consider it Kaneki up to this point.

so basically kaneki right after eating a part of hideyoshi?

 

[NikHelton]

Kaneki Vs Tenna next when

I want to update Attack on Titan and make Kaneki vs Eren

 

[CastoriceTheFifth]

I want to update Attack on Titan and make Kaneki vs Eren

And I want to see Kaneki being forced to play Guitar Hero

 

[SnakesCity]

Kaneki Vs Tenna next when

Rules card GGs

 

[God_of_perversion]

Any way i'll just explain why i think spantom wins since i'm not doing a god job
Soul hax in deltarune works by having ANY physical contact against the opponent's move and thats to a level that even a single scratch of the attack is enought to deal full soul damage
Spantom is powerful enought to destroy souls in 2-3 attacks while having moves that one shot it and said moves come out of his body or are summoned by him,if Kaneki goes for a attack towards spantom then he will have to dodge hundreads of bullets because a single scratch is enought to deal full damage not only that but a lot of spantom attacks come out his body such as his heart being able to shot 20+ bullets in secconds which pretty much makes some attacks unavoidable since just the act of trying damage Spantom will cause him to counter attack it,and even worse Spantom's body will continue to attack even while being hit meaning the momment Kaneki attacks he will be forced to make contact with a bullet
Also sorry if the sentence is porly constructed i had zero sleep today