Cat owner vs Dog owner (AppleMaker vs Metalballrun) (0-4-0)

[AppleMaker]

Yet another Powerscaler vs Powerscaler match, let's see how it goes

Rules:

• Speed is not equalized (peak human speed for Metalballrun though)
• AppleMaker have low end 9-C durability
• Prime Metalballrun is used
• Metalballrun is 10-A and his reality warping + BDE are restricted
• Both are unarmed
• Starting distance is 20 meters

"I'ma punch ice for no reason":

"Joe mama": 4 (@Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer); (@Rex_Eckles); (@Nonynho); (@Lloydblitzed)

They got skillslopped by half of powerscalers:

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Metal doesn't really sound like that much of a good fighter compared to you in skills but he does have an entire pack of Adult male slaying capable dogs so I think Metal would prob still pull off a win with high diff

 

[Rex_Eckles]

You seem to be faster, stronger, and have higher LS. You're probably gonna win.

 

[AppleMaker]

You seem to be faster, stronger, and have higher LS. You're probably gonna win.

Metalballrun is faster, Peak human speed > Athletic speed. Not sure about LS, but he possibly have advantage in that and I definitely have ap and durability advantage

 

[AppleMaker]

Metal doesn't really sound like that much of a good fighter compared to you in skills but he does have an entire pack of Adult male slaying capable dogs so I think Metal would prob still pull off a win with high diff

He don't have dogs in this match (I think it would be way too gruesome otherwise)

 

[Mythic381]

I neg both. (Will comment later.)

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Yet another Powerscaler vs Powerscaler match, let's see how it goes

Rules:

• Speed is not equalized (peak human speed for Metalballrun though)
• AppleMaker have low end 9-C durability
• Prime Metalballrun is used
• Metalballrun is 10-A and his reality warping + BDE are restricted
• Both are unarmed
• Starting distance is 20 meters

"I'ma punch ice for no reason":

"Joe mama":

They got skillslopped by half of powerscalers:

Tier: Tie/Draw
Attack Potency: Tie/Draw
Speed: Metal
Lifting Strength: Tie/Draw
Striking Strength: Tie/Draw
Durability: Apple
Stamina: Metal
Range: Tie/Draw
Intelligence: Tie/Draw

This comes down to Metal's speed and stamina vs Apple's durability, unsure if Apple has a size advantage against Metal either, but Metal could also have an advantage in combat experience with martial arts and self defence.
I think I'd vote Metal winning/Apple losing.
(Apple, seriously, go find martial arts to learn, even with your size advantage I doubt you can counter martial arts moves without knowing how to defend against them, I recommend military martial arts and MMA.)

 

[AppleMaker]

Currently gonna count only Mahek's vote, because it seems like other voters misunderstood some rules or stats

 

[Nonynho]

I mean, Apple can't resist his hax, so he is going to get convinced that he'll be beaten by Metal and gg

Sorry apple, but against hax we can't do much without at least Willpower

 

[AppleMaker]

I mean, Apple can't resist his hax, so he is going to get convinced that he'll be beaten by Metal and gg

Sorry apple, but against hax we can't do much without at least Willpower

Resistance to social influence and fear though (and his hax are limited anyway)

 

[AppleMaker]

Also in my summary I have this line

Got used to fight against opponents, despite all odds and disadvantages he may have in certain situations

 

[Rex_Eckles]

Metal FRA.

 

[Nonynho]

Resistance to social influence

i didn't see it because of the slightly different writing, my bad

but @Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer's arguments are enough, imo, so i keep my Metal vote FRA

 

[AppleMaker]

And here goes my second L to a powerscaler

 

[AppleMaker]

(Apple, seriously, go find martial arts to learn, even with your size advantage I doubt you can counter martial arts moves without knowing how to defend against them, I recommend military martial arts and MMA.)

Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer after I added "Limited Martial Arts" to my profile (I got 1 day of training and apparently can skillslop anyone without MA on profile and win 99% of matches now):

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Huh Metal FRA even without the dogs ngl

 

[Rogue_Forge]

What kind of equipment do you guys get

 

[AppleMaker]

What kind of equipment do you guys get

Neither, it's pure cqc

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer after I added "Limited Martial Arts" to my profile (I got 1 day of training and apparently can skillslop anyone without MA on profile and win 99% of matches now):

....

Combatives - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Mixed martial arts - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Rogue_Forge]

Ok ima do my own break down because I disagree with Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer on a lot of things

Attack Potency: Apple

Metalball is just at Athlete level with no reasoning as to why he may be higher than baseline, meanwhile Apple is at 263 Joules, if we assume Metalball is baseline then Apple has a ~2.48x AP advantage

Speed: Metal

The reverse of the last one, Metal scales to Mongrel Dogs putting him around 40 km/h (~11.11 m/s) meanwhile Apple is only Athlete level with nothing to say he's higher than baseline, which would mean Metal is ~1.44x faster

Lifting Strength: Metal

Metal can lift "Multiple grown men" assuming 2 that would be an average of 181.2 kg vs Apple at 110 kg (1.64x LS advantage)

Striking Strength: Apple

Same as AP

Durability: Apple

Even higher than AP, 3x durability advantage

Stamina: Metal

Average vs High

Range: Tie/Draw

Intelligence: Tie/Draw

Conclusion: Lowkey Apple might take this, the gap in AP and Dura is pretty big compared to the LS and Speed Gap, the only real challenge here is the apparent skill gap from Metal having "Has intermediate knowledge and experience about martial arts and self-defense training" however that's only in his intelligence section, he doesn't actually have Martial arts in his Powers and Abilities section

I'm voting Apple

 

[AppleMaker]

Ok ima do my own break down because I disagree with Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer on a lot of things

Attack Potency: Apple

Metalball is just at Athlete level with no reasoning as to why he may be higher than baseline, meanwhile Apple is at 263 Joules, if we assume Metalball is baseline then Apple has a ~2.48x AP advantage

Speed: Metal

The reverse of the last one, Metal scales to Mongrel Dogs putting him around 40 km/h (~11.11 m/s) meanwhile Apple is only Athlete level with nothing to say he's higher than baseline, which would mean Metal is ~1.44x faster

Lifting Strength: Metal

Metal can lift "Multiple grown men" assuming 2 that would be an average of 181.2 kg vs Apple at 110 kg (1.64x LS advantage)

Striking Strength: Apple

Same as AP

Durability: Apple

Even higher than AP, 3x durability advantage

Stamina: Metal

Average vs High

Range: Tie/Draw

Intelligence: Tie/Draw

Conclusion: Lowkey Apple might take this, the gap in AP and Dura is pretty big compared to the LS and Speed Gap, the only real challenge here is the apparent skill gap from Metal having "Has intermediate knowledge and experience about martial arts and self-defense training" however that's only in his intelligence section, he doesn't actually have Martial arts in his Powers and Abilities section

I'm voting Apple

You're kinda late, sorry. But let's see if there any new voters gonna be

 

[Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer]

Ok ima do my own break down because I disagree with Mahek_The_Assassin_Silent_Killer on a lot of things

Attack Potency: Apple

Metalball is just at Athlete level with no reasoning as to why he may be higher than baseline, meanwhile Apple is at 263 Joules, if we assume Metalball is baseline then Apple has a ~2.48x AP advantage

Speed: Metal

The reverse of the last one, Metal scales to Mongrel Dogs putting him around 40 km/h (~11.11 m/s) meanwhile Apple is only Athlete level with nothing to say he's higher than baseline, which would mean Metal is ~1.44x faster

Lifting Strength: Metal

Metal can lift "Multiple grown men" assuming 2 that would be an average of 181.2 kg vs Apple at 110 kg (1.64x LS advantage)

Striking Strength: Apple

Same as AP

Durability: Apple

Even higher than AP, 3x durability advantage

Stamina: Metal

Average vs High

Range: Tie/Draw

Intelligence: Tie/Draw

Conclusion: Lowkey Apple might take this, the gap in AP and Dura is pretty big compared to the LS and Speed Gap, the only real challenge here is the apparent skill gap from Metal having "Has intermediate knowledge and experience about martial arts and self-defense training" however that's only in his intelligence section, he doesn't actually have Martial arts in his Powers and Abilities section

I'm voting Apple

Fair enough (I keep wondering whether to assume baseline/minimum, average/mean or median/middle, or peak/maximum).

But was wondering how much the gap in experience/knowledge/skill of martial arts and self-defence would make up for the AP and Durability gap cause theoretically/technically said experience/knowledge/skill could mean Metal knows how to better leverage and maximise AP with his techniques and also possibly negate or bypass durability via weak points/vital areas and whatnot.

(In other words, Metal could use stuff like targeting the neck, groin/crotch, back of head, temple, bridge (joining point of eyebrows and nose), eyes, nose, philtrum, jaw and chin, sternum, spine, solar plexus, liver, spleen, lower (false, including floating) ribs, armpits, humeri (plural of humerus)/biceps and triceps, forearms, wrists, back of hands, palms, fingers, thighs, calves, ankles, insteps, soles and toes, either using striking or grappling to damage the nerves, blood vessels, organs, bones, etc...
(Now Apple should know them too thanks to listing them out, but at the time of the matchup Metal would be presumably more aware of how to utilise such weak points/vital areas and what techniques can be used to target and damage said points/areas.)
Unless we're assuming both of them are wearing armour or full body clothing to protect most if not all of said areas.)