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Most Fear Lord Ravager vs Son of Sparda (0-5-0)

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GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
What's it gonna do?
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Imaginary Energy (Honkai)

Paths are congregations of Imaginary energy, born as manifestations of universal philosophical concepts. Those who believe in and practice the concepts behind a certain path become Pathstriders,[1] and the path that they happen to follow will change in accordance with their own philosophies and...
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A mouthful
 
Glancing at the pages I don't see Vergil resisting Type 2 Info Manip but he seems to resist everything else?
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
tldr pls, tell me the most damning hax, this is too much to read.
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Nihility: Aura (Overwhelming), Madness Manipulation (Types 2 & 3), Empathic Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Information Manipulation (Type 2) & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Void Manipulation, Existence Erasure (Space-Time, History, Memory, Information【Type 2】& Conceptual【Type 1】) & Causality Manipulation

Also powernull and resistance negation

I'll leave the Honkai and Destruction BS later if Vergil can deal with this

My bad for the lack of tldr
 
Doggo said:
Nihility: Aura (Overwhelming), Madness Manipulation (Types 2 & 3), Empathic Manipulation, Sleep Manipulation, Soul Manipulation, Mind Manipulation, Information Manipulation (Type 2) & Conceptual Manipulation (Type 1), Void Manipulation, Existence Erasure (Space-Time, History, Memory, Information【Type 2】& Conceptual【Type 1】) & Causality Manipulation

Also powernull and resistance negation

I'll leave the Honkai and Destruction BS later if Vergil can deal with this

My bad for the lack of tldr
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Aside from Info nothing is a problem, but regen takes care of that.
 
I mean if Vergil just gets passively type 2 info'd idk if he can do anything besides maybe his RE saving him?
 
Ang4I00 said:
We don't even have HGR for some reason, even tho justification is right there
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Tony said even tho we have HGR we need to make thread to officialise it, and peeps are on break rn. But we don't need that, profiles acknowledge Spardas can regenerate from destruction of their aspects. So practically we have HGR.
Doggo said:
Do we have proof of Vergil being able to regen from attacks that affect his information?
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Well he can practically regen from complete erasure, so. Idk. There's also something about Info and CM not being equatable, so it's not fool proof. Metaphysics page is bullshit and I asked DT but he dipped.
Doggo said:
What are Vergil's main hax aside from the spatial slash thing?
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Legit CM seperation and **** ton on Soul/CM/PN/PA hax block layers.

And RE
 
Then I guess Vergil gets passived and tells Nero to stop buying gatcha stuff and go touch grass with Kyrie from the looks of it
 
GilverTheProtoAngelo said:
Tony said even tho we have HGR we need to make thread to officialise it, and peeps are on break rn. But we don't need that, profiles acknowledge Spardas can regenerate from destruction of their aspects. So practically we have HGR.
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The justification is already accepted tho, I don't think you need any threads for that if it's just a label change

Anyways, I think we might be able to equalize the aspects here since the justifications come from the nature of Souls in both verses
As we can not list every possible kind of metaphysical aspect that may appear in fiction, not listed things like names, Dao, essence or ether are usually sorted into the existing abilities by judging what seems most similar to the ability even if it is not an exact equivalence. At the same time do different fictions at times call very similar ideas by different names, such that what is called concept in one fiction might end up being almost the same as what is called information in another.

As such it is at times reasonable to not hang on to the rigid classifications of our power and ability pages in vs-debates and allow for a more case-by-case comparison.

E.g. If in one fiction names are considered the essence of being and classified as concept manipulation and in another fiction names are also considered as fundamental part of existence, but classified as information manipulation instead as the explanation used digital metaphors, it would be possible to still equalize names in both verses to be the same metaphysical aspect, despite their classification.
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Thehunter077 said:
Not even lore has explanation? Or maybe spesial regen scalling?
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I would have to look into it again (the other supporters know more hsr stuff im been drowning myself in hi3) but from what ive seen he literally hasnt been damaged yet (outside of nuking the universe) so we dont really know 😭
 
Are Aeons just baseline? Or do they have some chain scaling
If not then Vergil has ridicilous AP advantage
 
I have no idea about scaling chain for Ravager, Vergil scales to the absolute top, so he has long list of chain scale. He beats on virtue of that alone.
 
Well assuming Vergil isn't passived unless ravager has an equally long scaling chain I think Vergil would just one shot then?
 
Ravager doesn't have enough layers for passive to work, and info type 2 is covered CM1 Names in DMC according to Metaphysics page.
 
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