Shibai Otsutsuki Universal+ Removel

[karo_senpaii]

I have a few problems with this:



This makes sense, but IMO is ultimately a weak argument if you're arguing for something as specific as Low 2-C in the absence of some very key pieces of information.

Okay, one small problem. Senrigan does not have "Tier 2 range" at all. I just checked, not only is it not accepted anywhere here, but the fact is that it CAN'T have Tier 2 range at all. Interdimensional sight doesn't grant you Tier 2 range on its own, and the ability to see in the past doesn't either especially since it's not seeing into the infinite past (which would be Low 2-C) but instead only up until her own birth, so yeah this isn't Tier 2 range. Also, this would give literally anyone who can time travel Tier 2 range/hax, I don't think we can grant something like this. As for Prescience, seeing 'all possible futures' (ones that are, as we know, not even actualized) is really not a strong argument for Tier 2 range either. I can "see" 10 different future right now, as I'm typing this, about what can possibly happen in the next 18 hours with me, that doesn't grant me Tier 2 range especially since this was just in context to the fight with Naruto and Isshiki. Still, the main point I'm trying to make here is that these abilities are different, and just because Omnipotence predates/preceeds them doesn't mean that the creation ability of Omnipotence also has Low 2-C range/potency.

Sure, but you do realize that Otsutsuki still existed on a planet within the universe right? And that this whole "there's another universe where another God originated from who created this universe we're talking about now" is purely conjecture, theory-crafting made solely to try and make some sense of this extremely hyperbolic, nebulous and vague statement right?

It doesn't, and yet here we are. The statement says exactly that. Now what?

I have a problem with this argument being used again and again. Let me give an example, we accept that most fictional verses are made of atoms. At some point a lot of them even outright say it. And of course, a lot of fictional works also have characters that are explicitly capable of atomic manipulation. Does that now grant them Low 2-C range or potency in their abilities and/or hax, purely because they can manipulate the 'building blocks' of reality? I hope your answer is that it doesn't, because that's fundamentally what's being argued here.

Well as I have just stated, other Shinjutsu really aren't on that scale either. At least one of them clearly isn't and even if they were, they're different abilities (Omnipotence isn't creation, but just something that it's capable of among other things) and it's not a good argument to say that they all have the same range without strong evidence.

I personally still am of the opinion that this should be left untiered until we have better information in the near or distant future instead of half-assing it this way IMO just because we're unnecessarily forcing ourselves to accept the highest possible interpretation of some terms that, if I'm being honest, are pretty vague and up-to-interpretation of the reader.

Considering the way Ada chakra is shown to encompass the planet and travel for and wide beyond, there's a strong argument for it just having travelling to it went out of the the universe and then affected the other dimensions.

Prescience actually has 2A range and considering amenominaka warps the world you're in and replaces it with another, there's a strong case for it having tier 2 range too considering kaguya also warps the Naruto world at first.

We also have a jutsu that creates pocket dimensions the size of a small solar system.

There's a lot more pointing to beyond planetary than at planetary..

Your building blocks argument don't make much sense because in this context reality is metaphysical, in reference to what makes up everything i.e conceptual manipulation or info manipulation type 2 on a pretty big scale

 

[Samlex1234]

I truly hope yall don't try to say Shibai was the one who did it because if he did then how did his body get into this dimension

why does that matter at all did we even read the original thread at all.. like all I’m seeing here is the dismissals of canon source materials.. And people are just going I agree I agree I agree, like agree with what specifically.. We throw away lores, word of god statements and go with extrapolated headcanons because some people want to win a debate?, please go back and read the original thread.

 

[KingTempest]

why does that matter at all did we even read the original thread at all.. like all I’m seeing here is the dismissals of canon source materials.. And people are just going I agree I agree I agree, like agree with what specifically.. We throw away lores, word of god statements and go with extrapolated headcanons because some people want to win a debate?, please go back and read the original thread.

Nobody is throwing away statements, we're interpreting them. Creation doesn't always mean poof into existence so that's being spoken about.
On top of that it matters because if Shibai's body is in this universe it means that HE'S FROM THIS UNIVERSE which means HE CAN'T CREATE THE UNIVERSE AS A GOD WHO LEFT HIS BODY

 

[karo_senpaii]

I don't know if it implies previous worlds as in previous universes or previous updates of the current world, same way Boruto says that he has technology that doesn't exist in his "world" yet, he's not saying he has tech that's in another universe that he's just now getting.

It's a leap in logic to use that flimsy statement to imply multiverses

Strawman of this level is possible?

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

Do we have a mention of parallel universes? I seem to have missed that, I was under the impression that Prescience merely talks about possible futures, not ones that actually exist. Or are you referring to something else

yes, theres plenty of realms that are called parallel dimensions,realities/universes ect, the rule of thumb generally speaking is that these dont inherently scale to people because they often either natural or a a byproduct of a specific hax, this is why people specifically focus on "omnipotence" because the creation of the world/reality ect seems to be specifically emphasized.

 

[KingTempest]

This is why I said you didn’t read the main thread.. Nobody argued for shibai creating the current universe brother.. They are many Otsutsuki that reached godhood outside of Shibai.. We know this from a canon statement..

And someone mentioned shibai doing it so we tackled the thought of shibai doing it. Read this damn thread.

 

[Shadow7001]

Considering the way Ada chakra is shown to encompass the planet and travel for and wide beyond, there's a strong argument for it just having travelling to it went out of the the universe and then affected the other dimensions.

No, it absolutely is not. That's just interdimensional range. Claiming that it went 'out of the universe' is totally unfounded.

Prescience actually has 2A range and considering amenominaka warps the world you're in and replaces it with another, there's a strong case for it having tier 2 range too considering kaguya also warps the Naruto world at first.

Kaguya was never accepted as Tier 2 anything. Look if we're bringing up unaccepted stuff here then I could do it too, that's really not a fair way to have this conversation. I'm trying my best to keep in with the standards here. I personally think that this ability being planetary is stupid and universal is actually probably more likely. Keyword: personally. I don't think it qualifies as far as Wiki standards go. So yeah, let's keep with the standards here and argue along the lines of stuff we already except or else we get stuff like the theory-crafting earlier that I referred to.

We also have a jutsu that creates pocket dimensions the size of a small solar system.

That is not Tier 2. And as far as I've read, that solar system calc got removed entirely and it's untiered for now, @Damage3245 simply hasn't made a replacement thread yet (correct me if I'm wrong though).

There's a lot more pointing to beyond planetary than at planetary..

Ignoring the fact that many of things you claimed aren't, saying this and then claiming that it's Low 2-C is a massive leap on logic and you must admit to this fact. Just because a bunch of different abilities from before demonstrate range exceeding planetary in some cases doesn't mean that another ability (the creation derived via Omnipotence) will not have Low 2-C range. Again, I personally think that it probably is universal, but the wiki doesn't run on what I personally think it runs on its own standards and I believe and know that this is not even close to being enough for the kind of evidence you need for Tier 2 stuff.

Your building blocks argument don't make much sense because in this context reality is metaphysical, in reference to what makes up everything i.e conceptual manipulation or info manipulation type 2 on a pretty big scale

You understand that IM2 can have range of less than Low 2-C too right? Once again, this isn't an argument. What's really happening here is that we're being told to immediately assume it's Low 2-C and then being asked to try and falsify it. That's not how a claim works

 

[HelloThere1089]

#1 It's stated to be an Otsutsuki God.
#2 The otsutsuki are blatantly stated to come from another planet.

How is them coming from a different planet affect anything here? They can come from a different planet in a different universe, or they can have previously been situated in a different universe and then moved to one in this universe.

#1 People do this all the time, I see people in this thread who do it all the time

I don't really care? I see people being surprised that Boruto has alt dimensions and I have to question if they are capable of understanding the lore and aren't just arguing for the sake of downgrades.

#2 People usually don't correlate different dimensions with different universes so it's not solely a matter of naruto knowledge it's a matter of terminology

Not really my problem tho. Existence of dimensions makes it possible that different universes can exist. Especially when one of them is called a parallel dimension.

Uh, no. Random, untiered space-times and full-blown universes are different things. And contrary to what you said, I am fairly well-verses in Naruto and Boruto as far except for the most recent chapters in TBV since I had lost interest but started reading them recently.

I'm sorry, why is there a need to have a full blown universe as opposed to an untiered spacetime again? Can Otsutsuki not originate from an untiered spacetime?

 

[Shadow7001]

yes, theres plenty of realms that are called parallel dimensions,realities/universes ect, the rule of thumb generally speaking is that these dont inherently scale to people because they often either natural or a a byproduct of a specific hax, this is why people specifically focus on "omnipotence" because the creation of the world/reality ect seems to be specifically emphasized.

If there are multiple universes then I'd like to see some evidence of that. At least that might then put more weight into the whole "Another God from another universe came and created this universe" theory. Parallel dimensions however rarely qualify for universes unless they have strong evidence to suggest so

 

[KingTempest]

How is them coming from a different planet affect anything here? They can come from a different planet in a different universe, or they can have previously been situated in a different universe and then moved to one in this universe.

Headcanon of hell.
"They're from a different planet" so it means that they're from a different universe?
"We don't know where they come from so we can't say anything"
"They come from a different planet"
"IT COULD BE FROM ANOTHER PLANET FROM A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE!!!"

I don't really care? I see people being surprised that Boruto has alt dimensions and I have to question if they are capable of understanding the lore and aren't just arguing for the sake of downgrades.

Boruto isn't that important to where people argue for the sake of downgrades.
When you say a place has different universes when it never blatantly often says universes in the main series, you need to be sat and reminded, not ridiculed.
Say "those other dimensions, kamui, kaguya's, code's, etc." don't ***** and moan

Not really my problem tho. Existence of dimensions makes it possible that different universes can exist. Especially when one of them is called a parallel dimension.

This is like saying because people breathe air on earth that there were people breathing air before earth

 

[Samlex1234]

And someone mentioned shibai doing it so we tackled the thought of shibai doing it. Read this damn thread.

This is exactly why I said you guys didn’t read the main thread.

No one argued that Shibai created the current universe. That was never the claim. Canon explicitly tells us that multiple Ōtsutsuki reached godhood, not just Shibai. This is not speculation it’s a direct statement. Please go back and reread it. What we are not going to do is discard established lore just because you personally disagree with where it leads.
The entire Boruto narrative is built around a single, consistent theme: Ōtsutsuki invade planets, drain all life, and evolve. The obvious follow-up question is: evolve into what?
The series answers this very clearly.
That evolutionary endpoint is godhood, and the power achieved at that end of that stage manifests as the Shinjutsu of shinjustu Omnipotence explicitly presented as the pinnacle of the verse. A power that utterly eclipses techniques like ETSO.
Momoshiki knows exactly what he’s pursuing. He openly states that he understands how all Shinjutsu function. In fact, our entire understanding of Omnipotence comes from Momoshiki himself, including the reason we even know Eida possesses it. But now we’re supposed to pretend that this is where he suddenly becomes unreliable and we should throw out all of his statements? That’s not critical analysisthat’s selective dismissal.
All Ōtsutsuki share the same lore, the same goal, and the same evolutionary framework. They know what they’re aiming for because others have already achieved it in the past.
And on top of all that, the author directly confirms this with a Word-of-God statement.
So at this point, what exactly is missing?
What more do you need?

 

[Kaydee1648]

No, it absolutely is not. That's just interdimensional range. Claiming that it went 'out of the universe' is totally unfounded.

It’s not unfounded, he literally just gave a reason, don’t be unreasonable with.

It being accepted as interdimensional range is not a defeater of said ability being above low 2-C range. Because the former is above the latter in terms of ranking, and with the visual iteration we got, alongside the plethora of abilities having similar range, it can be a more plausible interpretation.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

different dimensions* (I know it's semantics but bare with me)
we know of the different dimensions conjured up by the otsutsuki and such but to say that there's an entire 93 billion light year long universe that they were chilling in prior, or a pre-verse ig, is another assumption

there are entire parallel dimensions/realms entirely unrelated to the otsutsuki, and no im not saying the otsutsuki have their own universes where they hide and wait, that being said there are plenty of dimensions in the verse that could qualify as universal regardless, ive spoken to some knowledgeable members and staff and even accounted for our standards. i just havent gotten around getting the cosmology thing out.
regardless i dont think is a good argument, the otsutsuki dont need to be from a different universe or if they are it doesnt need to be 93 billion light years big, a multi solar system sized realm could easily contain a race like the otsutsuki, we also specifically see otsutsuki architecture and culture stuff across different dimensions and even suck up planets from different universes, meaning theres no inherent reason to assume they come from the same universe. (even i dont specifically agree)

 

[karo_senpaii]

No, it absolutely is not. That's just interdimensional range. Claiming that it went 'out of the universe' is totally unfounded.

Unfounded? We see it travel omnidirectionally like a wave exiting the planet and it's totally unfounded? It's not unfounded, you can say it's not concrete proof but it's definitely not "unfounded". In fact it makes more sense for the chakra like wave to keep spreading that way as suppose to after leaving the region of the planet suddenly vanish and go to other dimensions

Kaguya was never accepted as Tier 2 anything. Look if we're bringing up unaccepted stuff here then I could do it too, that's really not a fair way to have this conversation. I'm trying my best to keep in with the standards here. I personally think that this ability being planetary is stupid and universal is actually probably more likely. Keyword: personally. I don't think it qualifies as far as Wiki standards go. So yeah, let's keep with the standards here and argue along the lines of stuff we already except or else we get stuff like the theory-crafting earlier that I referred to.

Love how you ignored prescience. I said "has a strong case for" and you're telling me, that's not accepted. What do you think has a strong case means? Did I outright tell you it's accepted as tier 2. It's already accepted she warps the space she is in, it's just a matter of application

That is not Tier 2. And as far as I've read, that solar system calc got removed entirely and it's untiered for now, @Damage3245 simply hasn't made a replacement thread yet (correct me if I'm wrong though).

??? Did I say it's tier 2? I'm bring evidence supposed levels far beyond planetary for justu, making it absurd for planetary levels of the so coins "Shinjutsu of Shinjutsu"

Also bro that's a calc for energy produced. Creation is and is always there, we just don't use it coz no timeframe. You're talking about destruction or energy yield

Ignoring the fact that many of things you claimed aren't, saying this and then claiming that it's Low 2-C is a massive leap on logic and you must admit to this fact. Just because a bunch of different abilities from before demonstrate range exceeding planetary in some cases doesn't mean that another ability (the creation derived via Omnipotence) will not have Low 2-C range. Again, I personally think that it probably is universal, but the wiki doesn't run on what I personally think it runs on its own standards and I believe and know that this is not even close to being enough for the kind of evidence you need for Tier 2 stuff.

You understand that IM2 can have range of less than Low 2-C too right? Once again, this isn't an argument. What's really happening here is that we're being told to immediately assume it's Low 2-C and then being asked to try and falsify it. That's not how a claim works

??? Net already explained the scale of reality he is talking about. What's happening in here is we are giving several indicators that this is happening on a wide scale, the likes of which we haven't seen before so we're viewing past feats and comparing if something like a universe or nearly referring to a planet is more appropriate

 

[KingTempest]

This is exactly why I said you guys didn’t read the main thread.

No one argued that Shibai created the current universe. That was never the claim. Canon explicitly tells us that multiple Ōtsutsuki reached godhood, not just Shibai. This is not speculation it’s a direct statement. Please go back and reread it. What we are not going to do is discard established lore just because you personally disagree with where it leads.
The entire Boruto narrative is built around a single, consistent theme: Ōtsutsuki invade planets, drain all life, and evolve. The obvious follow-up question is: evolve into what?
The series answers this very clearly.
That evolutionary endpoint is godhood, and the power achieved at that end of that stage manifests as the Shinjutsu of shinjustu Omnipotence explicitly presented as the pinnacle of the verse. A power that utterly eclipses techniques like ETSO.
Momoshiki knows exactly what he’s pursuing. He openly states that he understands how all Shinjutsu function. In fact, our entire understanding of Omnipotence comes from Momoshiki himself, including the reason we even know Eida possesses it. But now we’re supposed to pretend that this is where he suddenly becomes unreliable and we should throw out all of his statements? That’s not critical analysisthat’s selective dismissal.
All Ōtsutsuki share the same lore, the same goal, and the same evolutionary framework. They know what they’re aiming for because others have already achieved it in the past.
And on top of all that, the author directly confirms this with a Word-of-God statement.
So at this point, what exactly is missing?
What more do you need?

I'm honestly getting sick of you. Read this thread.
We are not arguing that shibai created the universe. SOME RANDOM WE'RE ARGUING AGAINST BROUGHT IT UP AND WE'RE SAYING THAT THAT HAS ISSUES.

You keep talking about this old thread and you keep yapping about nonsense that it's tiring and you haven't even been here for that long.
We do not believe Shibai made the universe.
Someone else does.

 

[KingTempest]

there are entire parallel dimensions/realms entirely unrelated to the otsutsuki, and no im not saying the otsutsuki have their own universes where they hide and wait, that being said there are plenty of dimensions in the verse that could qualify as universal regardless, ive spoken to some knowledgeable members and staff and even accounted for our standards. i just havent gotten around getting the cosmology thing out.
regardless i dont think is a good argument, the otsutsuki dont need to be from a different universe or if they are it doesnt need to be 93 billion light years big, a multi solar system sized realm could easily contain a race like the otsutsuki, we also specifically see otsutsuki architecture and culture stuff across different dimensions and even suck up planets from different universes, meaning theres no inherent reason to assume they come from the same universe. (even i dont specifically agree)

Fix my memory for me. Other than the ones made by dojutsu, what other dimensions do we have in the verse not tied to the otsutsuki?

 

[karo_senpaii]

Also dude thanks for pointing out that we should indeed have a thread about the range of some abilities if it wasn't clear enough

 

[Samlex1234]

Fix my memory for me. Other than the ones made by dojutsu, what other dimensions do we have in the verse not tied to the otsutsuki?

There is no Dimension in the Naruto verse that is stated to be created by Dojustu not one..

 

[KingTempest]

There is no Dimension in the Naruto verse that is stated to be created by Dojustu not one..

You said not one?

 

[HelloThere1089]

Headcanon of hell.
"They're from a different planet" so it means that they're from a different universe?
"We don't know where they come from so we can't say anything"
"They come from a different planet"
"IT COULD BE FROM ANOTHER PLANET FROM A DIFFERENT UNIVERSE!!!"

Way to miss the point completely. Relocation can happen my guy. It's not that hard to think. Them being from a different planet isn't the defeater you think it is.

Boruto isn't that important to where people argue for the sake of downgrades.

OP of this thread is a living counter to this statement but aight.

When you say a place has different universes when it never blatantly often says universes in the main series, you need to be sat and reminded, not ridiculed.
Say "those other dimensions, kamui, kaguya's, code's, etc." don't ***** and moan

Mans talking about bitching and moaning while doing the same about a comment not even directed to him. . If you're gonna argue for a verse while not knowing about it, i'mma call you out. If you get triggered by this, then don't do it.

 

[KingTempest]

Way to miss the point completely. Relocation can happen my guy. It's not that hard to think. Them being from a different planet isn't the defeater you think it is.

"Relocation" oh brother

It's literally headcanon on headcanon.

"We don't know where they're from"
"They're from another planet"
"They could be from another universe"
"It says they were from another planet"
"They coulda relocated"

You're just throwing random shit in there to try to cover your ass

OP of this thread is a living counter to this statement but aight.

Or maybe he's just ignorant?

Mans talking about bitching and moaning while doing the same about a comment not even directed to him. . If you're gonna argue for a verse while not knowing about it, i'mma call you out. If you get triggered by this, then don't do it.

If the thread is just gonna be people complaining about nothing at all then other measures can be taken but if we want to have a regular ass conversation then do that

 

[Samlex1234]

You said not one?

When someone speaks with so much confidence you ought to ask where it’s coming from.. I knew you were going to bring up this scan specifically and you are wrong because it’s a mistranslation.

 

[KingTempest]

One someone speak with so much confidence you ought to ask where it’s coming from.. I knew you were going to bring up this scandal specifically and you are wrong because it’s a mistranslation.

go get the right one then captain attitude. and stop talking crazy

 

[HelloThere1089]

You're just throwing random shit in there to try to cover your ass

Aight remind me again why the Otsutsuki being from a different planet is relevant again?

 

[Deceived3596]

After reading through the thread, I still find myself disagreeing with the OP. I'll explain why, whenever I have the time and patience to detail my thoughts.

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

You said not one?

Not your fault because ive used this scan too but this one is actually a mistranslation, the original kanji is closer to saying that the ability to send people to another space is the power of this ocular jutsu. or more specifically its just talking about the ability to make the kamui portals

 

[KingTempest]

Aight remind me again why the Otsutsuki being from a different planet is relevant again?

In the context of the statements at hand, when it's saying that an otsutsuki god created the universe, the point of saying they were from another planet was a jab at the argument to say they were from this universe, but with these new arguments of "oh it could be from another universe that they're talking about", it's eh

 

[Samlex1234]

go get the right one then captain attitude. and stop talking crazy

Kamui is a Mangekyo Sharingan technique that generates a distorted space.
By transferring objects into a different dimension, it allows the user to warp space itself.
The chakra possessed by the user determines the scale of what can be transferred
As a rule, large objects require a large amount of chakra, and the activation time increases accordingly.
When the ability of the right eye is used, objects are instantaneously transferred to the other dimension.
However, the effective range is short.
The ability of the left eye differs slightly, and is used to draw distant targets into the warped space.
By coordinating both eyes, it becomes possible to freely manipulate space—
such as slipping parts of the body through space or transporting objects without physical contact.
This technique can also be applied to weapons, allowing the power of Kamui to be carried into combat.



You won’t find the word create in that entire scan.. so sir once again you are wrong.

 

[HelloThere1089]

In the context of the statements at hand, when it's saying that an otsutsuki god created the universe, the point of saying they were from another planet was a jab at the argument to say they were from this universe, but with these new arguments of "oh it could be from another universe that they're talking about", it's eh

First of all, scan? Second of all are you claiming they're from the same universe as Naruto? Based on what?

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I have a question for you @Godernet and other staff

If there was a statement saying that the Otsutsuki who made the "current world" went through the process of evolution through the god trees and such, which require the universe, how would that change your viewpoint?

Because my whole issue is that all of this "he created the current universe" is literally impossible if the universe predates them.

This was one of the main issues I had with the original CRT besides the biblical genesis stuff.

The Cosmology of Naruto is not accepted as a Multiverse to suggest these beings came from another universe to make a new one.

For what? To give food to the lesser otsutsuki to hunt down like it’s Toriko?

 

[KingTempest]

Not your fault because ive used this scan too but this one is actually a mistranslation, the original kanji is closer to saying that the ability to send people to another space is the power of this ocular jutsu. or more specifically its just talking about the ability to make the kamui portals

Kamui is a Mangekyo Sharingan technique that generates a distorted space.
By transferring objects into a different dimension, it allows the user to warp space itself.
The chakra possessed by the user determines the scale of what can be transferred
As a rule, large objects require a large amount of chakra, and the activation time increases accordingly.
When the ability of the right eye is used, objects are instantaneously transferred to the other dimension.
However, the effective range is short.
The ability of the left eye differs slightly, and is used to draw distant targets into the warped space.
By coordinating both eyes, it becomes possible to freely manipulate space—
such as slipping parts of the body through space or transporting objects without physical contact.
This technique can also be applied to weapons, allowing the power of Kamui to be carried into combat.



You won’t find the word create in that entire scan.. so sir once again you are wrong.

万華鏡写輪眼によって創り出された異空間へ対象を転送する術。
A technique that transfers the target to an alternate dimension created by the Kaleidoscope (Mangekyō) Sharingan.
創
The term create here is the exact same kanji used in the scan regarding the "creation of the world"

Shadow I trust you more than Sam. Am I incorrect with this?

 

[Ghostimuscrime]

万華鏡写輪眼によって創り出された異空間へ対象を転送する術。
A technique that transfers the target to an alternate dimension created by the Kaleidoscope (Mangekyō) Sharingan.
創
The term create here is the exact same kanji used in the scan regarding the "creation of the world"

Shadow I trust you more than Sam. Am I incorrect with this?

The word used is 生み出す which means to create; to bring forth; to produce, to invent; to think up and bring into being


Obito's MS is bringing fourth said new dimension, it's not exactly implying they used chakra to produce all material in a dimension that happens to be 1:1 to the whole universe's coordinates and has endless grey cubes lying around
it's not like 創造 which means creation in the typical way we are associate with god

 

[KingTempest]

The word used is 生み出す which means to create; to bring forth; to produce, to invent; to think up and bring into being


Obito's MS is bringing fourth said new dimension, it's not exactly implying they used chakra to produce all material in a dimension that happens to be 1:1 to the whole universe's coordinates and has endless grey cubes lying around
it's not like 創造 which means creation in the typical way we are associate with god

Damn my rip was terrible. Thank you ghost.

Edit: Dude it still says the same thing.
「万華鏡写輪眼」が生み出す時空間へと、あらゆる物質を転送する瞳術。

 

[Shadowbokunohero]

万華鏡写輪眼によって創り出された異空間へ対象を転送する術。
A technique that transfers the target to an alternate dimension created by the Kaleidoscope (Mangekyō) Sharingan.
創
The term create here is the exact same kanji used in the scan regarding the "creation of the world"

Shadow I trust you more than Sam. Am I incorrect with this?

its not that the Kanji is wrong its the context its being used.

think of someone saying i created this madness vs someone saying i created a cake.

それは、彼の構築した異世界の外部にまで漏れ出しつつある。サスケの輪廻眼は、その流れを読み取っていた。

the context in this case is specifically talking about the portal, youll notice that Sam's translation mentioned generate vs created in your case, both are right, this is because it can also mean to bring forth. the full context of the page goes onto explain the mechanics of the sucking (pause) and not the literal dimension inside.

 

[KingTempest]

(pause)

 

[Foriaa]

yo what happened to Ichimoji

 

[HelloThere1089]

What a crazy ass tangent this thread is

 

[Foriaa]

What a crazy ass tangent this thread is

would it have been better as a staff thread?

 

[Samlex1234]

Damn my rip was terrible. Thank you ghost.

Edit: Dude it still says the same thing.

Umidasu is the right word.. you had translated
tsukuridasu

its not that the Kanji is wrong its the context its being used.

think of someone saying i created this madness vs someone saying i created a cake.

それは、彼の構築した異世界の外部にまで漏れ出しつつある。サスケの輪廻眼は、その流れを読み取っていた。

the context in this case is specifically talking about the portal, youll notice that Sam's translation mentioned generate vs created in your case, both are right, this is because it can also mean to bring forth. the full context of the page goes onto explain the mechanics of the sucking (pause) and not the literal dimension inside.

you have the wrong kanji

 

[HelloThere1089]

would it have been better as a staff thread?

No. It would have been better if people didn't start arguing things that weren't mentioned in the OP. It's like a free for all rn. If people have better arguments than the OP then they should make their own thread.