EldemadeDityjon
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I was giving example and what you calling illogical is just assumption and Nlf
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The Son of God vs The Fist That Turned Against God (Yhwach vs Saitama) (Bleach vs One Punch Man) [6-4-0]
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Even if he could travel back like 50 years he would now need to somehow travel to the afterlife to find Past Yhwach now, since he'd be chilling there.
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I think what I said works here since past Yhwach wouldn't let future Yhwach die due to how Almighty works.
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It’s not, since when did we limit time travel?
EldemadeDityjon
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Yeah forgot Saitama needs to travel to different timeline lol.
Then that's if he removed almighty from the future Yhwach. Which I don't see happening.
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This is neither an assumption nor an NLF. It’s a straightforward logical inference.
If a river runs continuously from point A to point Z, and an individual is shown kayaking from point A before voluntarily stopping at point B, it is not a logical fallacy to conclude that they are capable of continuing further downstream. The fact that they chose to stop does not imply an inability to continue.
Without evidence that points to B representing a hard limit, there is no basis to claim that the individual could not continue to point C, D, or Z.
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This got requested for closure for being a stomp (and upon first glance I was about to close it indiscriminately), however I see a lot of discussion here.
What are the reasons for why this isn't a stomp?
What are the reasons for why this isn't a stomp?
EldemadeDityjon
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Fallacies
One thing to keep in mind, is that even if someone is using a fallacy, it does not necessarily mean that their argument is not true. It merely means that they are attempting to argue for it improperly. These are the examples that apply to this wiki, with the original list written by Endless...
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Whatever bruh
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its so redickulous
the OPM people are saying saitama is going to copy almighty's fate hax
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Have you been keeping up with the last 2-ish pages at all??
EldemadeDityjon
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Somehow Saitama seems to go back in time as long as he wants even though he hasn't shown or stated be capable of.
Fallacies
One thing to keep in mind, is that even if someone is using a fallacy, it does not necessarily mean that their argument is not true. It merely means that they are attempting to argue for it improperly. These are the examples that apply to this wiki, with the original list written by Endless...
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now the OPM people are trying to tell me thats not being argued when it literally was this entire time
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You’re misinterpreting what that means.Fallacies
One thing to keep in mind, is that even if someone is using a fallacy, it does not necessarily mean that their argument is not true. It merely means that they are attempting to argue for it improperly. These are the examples that apply to this wiki, with the original list written by Endless...
Whatever bruh
An NLF is claiming something has no limits simply because none were shown. That’s not what I’m doing. I’m arguing for reasonable continuation of an already demonstrated action along the same conditions.
The character has already shown they can perform X along a continuous medium/path. Stopping at point B is a choice, not a demonstrated cap. For this to be an NLF, you would need evidence that point B is where the ability fails or reaches a limit. No such evidence exists.
Saying they can continue along the same uninterrupted path is not inventing a new ability or removing its limits. It’s acknowledging that no limiting factor has been presented. You’re treating an arbitrary stopping point as if it’s a proven maximum, when nothing in the feat suggests that. That’s not how NLF works.
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None really. Saitama doesn't have a win-con and most of the discussion had been Saitama's supporters arguing with hax that aren't accepted on his profile.
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I'm not gonna lie, reading over the discussion, it looks like Saitama's wincon rely on making him bloodlusted (the Vs Battles definition, where the character uses the best possible option to win), while also giving him prior knowledge (if he goes back to a time Yhwach doesn't have The Almighty, he genuinely needs to go to the shadows in Soul Society), and even that may or may not work. Even if you agree this works, then... What wincon Yhwach gets at that point?
That sounds like a mismatch no matter which way you slice it. I will close the thread on these grounds, but if y'all are really passionate about this and want to debate it further, I advise you seek another thread mod/admin and convince them there is a chance here.
That sounds like a mismatch no matter which way you slice it. I will close the thread on these grounds, but if y'all are really passionate about this and want to debate it further, I advise you seek another thread mod/admin and convince them there is a chance here.
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