FTL Gojo - Sukuna because of the QNA Statement? — Possible Jujutsu Kaisen Speed Upgrade

[Zabazab]

Discussing whether or not Sukuna changed the speed of his WCS after fully incarnating is pointless.The answer is that it's probably the same or a similar speed, since it's the exact same technique. It's just a terrible point to argue.

This would be a messy thread to discuss it in, but the verse is capped by Dabura, so Gojo will not be FTL. That, alongside the questionable necessity of Gojo scaling to WCS's speed to barely evade being killed, is why I don't think this scaling is viable.

 

[God_of_perversion]

hmmm, I mean dabura and mahoraga are confirmed to be going at light speeds, Kashimo FTL was only accepted as attack speed not actual travel iirc. So I still think dabura and mahoraga still are the speed cap due to them beign said and shown to be going at light speeds. still disagree ngl

*bellow light speed

 

[Maniaunavailable]

*bellow light speed

Dabura said mahoraga was coming to move at light speed, he said the air got ''denser'' which iirc that dosnt happen normally on FTL lmao

 

[Re5yh]

Looks good, I agree

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Only Dabura is, not Mahoraga.

Daburs says the faster he (I suppose its maho) to the speed of light, so he basically saying maho eventually will hit LS

 

[Zabazab]

Daburs says the faster he (I suppose its maho) to the speed of light, so he basically saying maho eventually will hit LS

No. The narration is describing Dabura as he approaches the speed of light. Makora was statued beyond belief.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

No. The narration is describing Dabura as he approaches the speed of light. Makora was statued beyond belief.

Damn, tought it was his inner toughts lmao. Eitherway if mahoraga manages to keep up then he will be FTL too.

 

[TalkLost6874]

Discussing whether or not Sukuna changed the speed of his WCS after fully incarnating is pointless.The answer is that it's probably the same or a similar speed, since it's the exact same technique. It's just a terrible point to argue.

This would be a messy thread to discuss it in, but the verse is capped by Dabura, so Gojo will not be FTL. That, alongside the questionable necessity of Gojo scaling to WCS's speed to barely evade being killed, is why I don't think this scaling is viable.

I dont think the distance he used WCS from would ever make him FTL or even High Rel anyway, so seems fine.

Eyeballing its like 15 to 20 feet distance so like 10% - 13% SoL.

 

[Robo432343]

someone please close this thread

 

[Buraqibear]

I'm pretty sure we already have this mentioned on Gojo's page in defense of his relativistic reaction speed, Gojo was several meters away from Sukuna, at that distance it wouldn't be difficult to avoid even an FTL attack with Relativistic reaction speed.

This is a case where the silly "Dodging a car doesn't make you as fast as one" nonsense actually works because Gojo would already see the car (the WCS in this case) coming at him from afar, and him dodging it from afar wouldn't make him as fast as it.

 

[Damage3245]

You don't have to be FTL to dodge an attack like this.

Easy disagree from me on this.

 

[Syncornize]

Since when does both dodging and reacting to a FTL attack not our criteria of FTL?

Not necessarily. Techniques can be anticipated before they are released, and Gojo, with his six eyes, I think he can also notice an increase in the use of cursed energy. The problem would depend on the direction of the cut, but he could always use Blue to go behind Sukuna.

 

[Syncornize]

You don't have to be FTL to dodge an attack like this.

Easy disagree from me on this.

I agree, but I think you should explain yourself. He can't understand where he went wrong if you just say, “This isn't necessary”

 

[ElJoaki5]

Gojo is already relativistic in reactions so he could have dodged it with the current rating.
Also, the statement still considers the attack would hit him.
Theres also Dabura caping people below light speed.

 

[Syncornize]

someone please close this thread

i guess we need another mod?

 

[FrostyScarf]

Not necessarily. Techniques can be anticipated before they are released, and Gojo, with his six eyes, I think he can also notice an increase in the use of cursed energy. The problem would depend on the direction of the cut, but he could always use Blue to go behind Sukuna.

Gonna assume that's the image about the spark since I literally can't look at imgur links in the UK

 

[FrostyScarf]

Gojo is already relativistic in reactions so he could have dodged it with the current rating.
Also, the statement still considers the attack would hit him.
Theres also Dabura caping people below light speed.

Dabura's Mankind statement shouldn't cap anyone, Kash gets the same thing granted to him and yet despite having a body that was beyond the limits of Mankind, he still showed a physical inferiority to a weakened human, don't think those statements apply to sorcerers, there's also the Megumi / Maki's dialogue in the Dagon fight that refers to humans as different beings than sorcerers

 

[FrostyScarf]

Not necessarily. Techniques can be anticipated before they are released, and Gojo, with his six eyes, I think he can also notice an increase in the use of cursed energy. The problem would depend on the direction of the cut, but he could always use Blue to go behind Sukuna.

Disagree on Blue TP as a evading wincon because of it needing certain conditions and it only comprising the distance

 

[FrostyScarf]

I'm pretty sure we already have this mentioned on Gojo's page in defense of his relativistic reaction speed, Gojo was several meters away from Sukuna, at that distance it wouldn't be difficult to avoid even an FTL attack with Relativistic reaction speed.

This is a case where the silly "Dodging a car doesn't make you as fast as one" nonsense actually works because Gojo would already see the car (the WCS in this case) coming at him from afar, and him dodging it from afar wouldn't make him as fast as it.

Don't think Gojo can actually perceive WCS moving in his direction from that small distance away too-well if the interaction from #224 is anything to go off, he seems pretty stunned and confused by Dismantle's damage on the buildings, sensing the spark and actually seeing dismantle are two different things, Aim-dodging kinda seems off the table for multiple reasons, plus the direct TL seems to imply him literally sensing it and dodging it the final hour

 

[Zabazab]

Dabura's Mankind statement shouldn't cap any

We've checked the japanese, it's not the same statement.

Spoiler: dabura

人類未踏
（Furigana：じんるい みとう）

Spoiler: kashimo

すでに人の域を超えており

Kashimo's is about going beyond human limits, while Dabura's is literally going somewhere where humankind has never been.

 

[Maniaunavailable]

Out of note but dabura looks so good on ts

 

[AyOgUyS]

MFTL Modulo Yuji trust

 

[GTsek]

I agree with an FTL rating for the Blue Speed only. He would probably avoid the cut by using the Blue. Gege said that Blue is a WARP, which is basically a way to travel in FTL By contracting the space between the coordinates, it's not necessarily a physical movement but it's not instantaneous like teleportation either., so I believe the statement about Dabura wouldn't affect Gojo. And we know that Gege uses real physical concepts in his techniques, so I can agree.

Many people are asking for a source for the statement, and I have this Japanese website that compiled the interview; question 7 contains this statement:

Spoiler

【呪術廻戦】原画展（大阪会場）の一問一答まとめ｜人外魔境新宿決戦・バカサバイバー!! - 漫画考察ブログ｜シンドーログ

週刊少年ジャンプで連載していた『呪術廻戦』における、芥見下々「呪術廻戦」展の一問一答についてまとめています。呪

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