Comparison between Veldanava (2-A) vs Zamasu at Full Power (Anime) (1-C)

[Azertyhuuh]

Comparison between Veldanava (2-A) vs Zamasu at Full Power (Anime) (1-C)

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The fight between them would be of a different kind, where the discussion is only about determining who is stronger or who would win in a direct confrontation.

Here we have Veldanava​

Here we have Infinite Zamasu at his maximum power (Anime)​

Who do you think would win?

I will present my own point of view only ↓

Infinite Zamasu at his maximum power, in his final form, possesses higher-dimensional existence (6D).
We have ↓

Attack Potency: 1-C
Speed: Omnipresent
Striking Strength: 1-C
Durability: 1-C
Range: 1-C

On the other side, we have Veldanava:

Attack Potency: 2-A
Speed: Omnipresent
Striking Strength: 2-A
Durability: 2-A
Range: 2-A

The winner, in my opinion, is Infinite Zamasu at full power, and the reason is his higher-dimensional (6D) existence. Because of this, Veldanava would not be able to perceive Zamasu’s existence or affect him, since Zamasu has become one with the hypertimeline and everything within it. Defeating him would require 1-C attack potency to destroy the six-dimensional hypertimeline itself. However, Veldanava only has 2-A attack potency, so he would not be able to defeat Zamasu in this form.
This means that Zamasu clearly wins this matchup. Even if Zamasu might not be able to completely erase Veldanava, in terms of raw power Zamasu still wins. Therefore, I vote for Zamasu due to his superior power.

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Voting rule: whoever gets 6 votes wins.

Infinite Zamasu (Final Form) 1-C:
Veldanava 2-A:

 

[Dereck03]

 

[MrTayman616]

The winner, in my opinion, is Infinite Zamasu at full power, and the reason is his higher-dimensional (6D) existence. Because of this, Veldanava would not be able to perceive Zamasu’s existence or affect him, since Zamasu has become one with the hypertimeline and everything within it. Defeating him would require 1-C attack potency to destroy the six-dimensional hypertimeline itself. However, Veldanava only has 2-A attack potency, so he would not be able to defeat Zamasu in this form.
This means that Zamasu clearly wins this matchup. Even if Zamasu might not be able to completely erase Veldanava, in terms of raw power Zamasu still wins. Therefore, I vote for Zamasu due to his superior power.

This seems to be a stomp match. (Oh i'm blind, it's joke battles)

 

[Gamin_Yoon23]

If you knew the outcome of this battle, was this really needed? It might’ve not been due to spiteful behaviour but people will take it as such. You should probably avoid making battles like these in the future for your own benefit.

 

[Robo432343]

Azerty is trying to say that he finds it ridiculous that Zamasu is 1-C while Veldanava is only 2-A

 

[3Pencil]

ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ
Veldanava probably since he's 2A why zamatsu is 1C
1+1=2

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

ಠ⁠益⁠ಠ
Veldanava probably since he's 2A why zamatsu is 1C
1+1=2

Only truest answer

 

[3Pencil]

Only truest answer

You need 2 zamatsu to beat veldanava and they will still be 2C
Only if zamatsu is 1A can he fight veldanava equally

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

I don't understand this matchup. First, why are you giving Zamasu a 6-D existence (meaning he's already a higher-dimensional being when he only becomes one eventually)?

Second, even your arguments are weak.

Zamasu may have everything you want, but he can't interact with Veldanava, damn it.

Vote me as an icon.

Since you categorized Zamasu as a 6-D existence, neither of them can interact with the other.

If you show him without his full form, Veldanava's aura is sufficient.

Edit: I didn't see the thread properly...a joke battle?

 

[Zanesucksatlife]

You need 2 zamatsu to beat veldanava and they will still be 2C

2 is too little,

Only if zamatsu is 1A can he fight veldanava equally

R E A L

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

Why.... Just why?

Veldanava can't do anything since Zamasu is bigger than his range....
Zamasu can't even interact with Veldanava....

It's a hard incon...

However, any part of Zamisu that gets within Veldanava's range gets nuked.


Oh wait... we are dumb.... Zamasu starts at 4D, meaning that Veldanava just insta wins before Zamasu becomes 5D...
Voting Veldanava

 

[Robo432343]

it is not incon...zamasu just nukes the cosmology and veldanava dies

 

[Dark_Soul20189]

it is not incon...zamasu just nukes the cosmology and veldanava dies

Veldanava was litterly trying to nuke the cosmology in volume 23... he survives Cosmology nukes.... (Even if he didn't, Zamasu lacks the hax to nuke Tensura cosmology)

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

I suppose Robo is in the correct "games" thread.

 

[Robo432343]

veldanava is not surviving cosmology nuke on a 1-C level tho

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Is this a joke?
Veldanava wins easily

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[Astral_Trinity439]

Why is goat even giving Zamasu 1C when his profile says it'll be "eventually 1-C"

Btw
Do we even allow eventually ratings to be treated as "base version" in vs matches?

veldanava is not surviving cosmology nuke on a 1-C level tho

Wether someone destroys a low 1-C, 1-C or high 1-C cosmology, if someone has HGR or sometimes even MGR, they will survive regardless.

Anyways if we go by the regular "he'll only become 1-C eventually", Zamasu is NNOT surviving this

• Passive Madness Manipulation (Type 3; Should be able to do this via Demon Lord Haki)

1. Dimensional Manipulation (Offensive - Via <Uriel: Lord of Vows>, can seal/move a target to an infinite Imaginary Number Space, thus removing their existence (and extension) from Reality (Real Dimensions), isolating them from the rest of the world for all time)

• Regeneration & Resurrection (High Godly; Ciel stated, he can regenerate his body whenever he wants but he chose not to. True Dragons could resurrect after the destruction of their nucleus hearts. Everything in Tensura is made up by Information Particles, including the nucleus heart/core. On top of that, True Dragons like Veldora is capable of coming back from conceptual destruction)

• Causality Manipulation (Via <Susanoo, King of Atrocity>, which grants control over the Cause and Effect, from realizing a certain outcome, to making the possibility of an outcome guaranteed even if it seems impossible -, to even evolving oneself to adapt to all situations - beyond their existential limits - Veldanava established The Laws of the World and causality is a part of the world laws)

• Passive Existence Erasure (1 Layer; Far outscales Veldora who's Dragon Spirit Haki could erase existence. Even Rimuru, who had resistance to existence erasure felt that his existence was beginning to crumble when he was hit by Veldora's Dragon Spirit Haki. Not to mention, other resistance like resistance to pain were deemed useless when anyone gets hit by Veldora's Dragon Spirit Haki, destroying the person on a conceptual level)

Attack Potency: Multiverse level+ (He is the Creator God that created the Voice of the World, the system that governs all worlds, and

Not to mention the other non-passive and passive hax he has, along with AE on CM1, Info type 2 and BDE1.....


Either Zamasu incons this IF we unfairly assume he's already starting at 1-C (which the profile contradicts as well) or he's getting passively nuked cuz who would have thought that putting someone with mid-high Regen and no Regen negation against someone with HGR was a good idea....

 

[Eikichi_Sensei]

Either Zamasu incons this IF we unfairly assume he's already starting at 1-C (which the profile contradicts as well) or he's getting passively nuked cuz who would have thought that putting someone with mid-high Regen and no Regen negation against someone with HGR was a good idea....

Regeneration?

Isn't it resurrection?

Furthermore, it will likely resist the negation of resurrection if we obtain the conceptual soul.

 

[Astral_Trinity439]

Regeneration?

Isn't it resurrection?

It's both

Furthermore, it will likely resist the negation of resurrection if we obtain the conceptual soul.

Yep

 

[AstraphelNoctis4]

veldanava is not surviving cosmology nuke on a 1-C level tho

Do cosmology nukes even affect BDE? not sure.

 

[AlexSamDen]

Actually, as far as I'm concerned, MM3 is one of the haxes that can't be Smurf, meaning they work equally on opponents of all tiers

That's literally a wincon even if Zamasu starts at 1-C

 

[Robo432343]

lmao fodder gowasu was able to deflect a 1-C zamasu attack

 

[Mbpoops]

...?

 

[AlexSamDen]

...?

Right now, Veldanava is winning due to incapping Zamasu with Madness

 

[Mbpoops]

Right now, Veldanava is winning due to incapping Zamasu with Madness

no way doesnt zamasu like resist this type of stuff with ki?

 

[AlexSamDen]

no way doesnt zamasu like resist this type of stuff with ki?

Nothing says so on the profile

 

[Mbpoops]

Nothing says so on the profile

damn not even with ki manip?

 

[AlexSamDen]

damn not even with ki manip?

Nothing there too

Seems like the whole DB series doesn't put anything on Madness, especially Type 3

 

[Mbpoops]

Nothing there too

Seems like the whole DB series doesn't put anything on Madness, especially Type 3

im crine

 

[Shar122]

What is this??

 

[AlexSamDen]

What is this??

Hax God vs Eventually HDE junkie

 

[Dereck03]

What a useless bum, Fraudmasu is only saved bec of HDE.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

What a useless bum, Fraudmasu is only saved bec of HDE.

But it will start with the key 2C
Isn't that so?

Therefore, veld wins before Zamasu does.

 

[Dereck03]

But it will start with the key 2C
Isn't that so?

Therefore, veld wins before Zamasu does.

Nuh-uh

Infinite Zamasu at his maximum power, in his final form, possesses higher-dimensional existence (6D).

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

Nuh-uh

Nih-uhh

2-C, higher with Light of Justice, far higher with Gigantification | 2-C, eventually 1-C

. Given enough time, Zamasu would have completely merged with the future timeline due to Zamasu's nature of spreading and merging his essence with reality[Note 2])

 

[Dereck03]

OP said the fully omnipresent Zamasu so argue with him.

 

[Ciel_Trinity439]

OP said the fully omnipresent Zamasu so argue with him.

This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
I think you need to read what his profile says.

 

[Azertyhuuh]

This has nothing to do with what I'm talking about.
I think you need to read what his profile says.

The comparison involves Final Form Zamasu (1-C) versus Veldanava. Please respect the rules of the thread and do not go off-topic.

Aside from that, even before reaching his full power in the end, he would already be infinitely above Low 1-C, possessing higher-dimensional existence (5D) and being partially 6D before the moment Zeno erased him. Even in that state, Zamasu would still be stronger, and after the battle he would continue to evolve and ultimately become 1-C. Nothing changes.

Do not forget that he merged with the Neutral Zone, which is now officially five-dimensional, and with part of the hypertimeline, which is part of the official canon. This makes him merged with countless or infinite five-dimensional snapshots already—and all of this happened even before Zeno erased him.

Anyway, this is not even the condition I set in the thread, and on top of that, even if it were, Zamasu would still win.

 

[AlexSamDen]

Anyway, this is not even the condition I set in the thread, and on top of that, even if it were, Zamasu would still win.

Seems like someone didn't pay attention to the arguments

 

[AlexSamDen]

Oh, and also, shouldn't Zamasu have his 1-C AP removed? Considering the recent Staff Thread on sizes and tiers?