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The source that states how long the heat from nitroglycerin explosions lasts, Bakugo's fireball blasts usually last way longer than a millisecond.
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Izuku Midoriya (Deku) Vs Lord Boros (My Hero Academia Vs One-Punch Man)
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It would probably be of a different material given its data book entry. Its probably closer to 6000 c
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Not specifically about "nitroglycerin explosions". This is about it happening during the detonation stage. This is the case for many high explosives. (they last like nanoseconds)
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It looks acceptable, but this kind of thing can't be accepted or used just because the experiment exists. It should be proposed in the Expanding the References for Common Feats thread and properly reviewed by multiple CGMs first, then it can apply to all profiles that share the same feat.
It looks like Deku's High 6-A AP is being disputed by TheRustyOne, so we should put this match on hold for now since it might become outdated soon.
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I would say that for now it would be better to close since the value of a character could undergo significant revisions
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Wow, this discussion got a little heated.
Anyway, it seems Boros starts with Meteoric Burst now, so he should have a certain AP/Dura advantage against Deku until he starts using Fa Jin and Gearshift. He'll probably burn his hand when he starts hitting Boros with his Blitz-level speed advantage, although I'm not sure how much, since seeing the arguments here I'm kind of unsure anymore what heat value they both scale to.
I think the most efficient strategy for Izuku here is to use Blackwhip to restrain Boros and take him to the ocean to try and cool him down a bit before starting to attack Boros. And if he decides to use CRSC in the ocean, Deku's cooling might give him the opportunity to use his Soul Destruction, even if he loses his arms in the process, it's still better than having the planet uninhabitable.
Anyway, it seems Boros starts with Meteoric Burst now, so he should have a certain AP/Dura advantage against Deku until he starts using Fa Jin and Gearshift. He'll probably burn his hand when he starts hitting Boros with his Blitz-level speed advantage, although I'm not sure how much, since seeing the arguments here I'm kind of unsure anymore what heat value they both scale to.
I think the most efficient strategy for Izuku here is to use Blackwhip to restrain Boros and take him to the ocean to try and cool him down a bit before starting to attack Boros. And if he decides to use CRSC in the ocean, Deku's cooling might give him the opportunity to use his Soul Destruction, even if he loses his arms in the process, it's still better than having the planet uninhabitable.
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Considering Gearshift works on a cellular level and can decrease the speed of something to the point that its almost frozen, is it a stretch to say that it can slow down regeneration? i mean, it should theoretically slow down all of the cells in your body, including the ones that multiply themselves. with deku's speed, it could create an opening to transfer OFA for a soul attack. assuming that much is even necessary.
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I think i go with incon
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From the profiles, arguments, and knowledge from the shows (very limited; anime only), I am currently voting Boros, may change it if I see some arguments that change my mind, if I come back.
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Maybe, but it could be argued that most of his stamina got tanked by the moon kick considering he transferred a crapload of energy into Saitama. If he's just straight up boxing Deku, the fight could end very fast due to the heat behind his strikes.
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Dodged, wasted energy now.
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I don’t think so. We don't really consider that kick as any special attack or anything and Boros specifically blames MB acting like an anaerobic exercise for his fatigue.
Maybe, the heat shenanigans seem pretty debated rn so I don't really have a stance on them.
If Deku scales to 5000°C and Boros has 6000°C then I don't think heat will be a big problem. Hell even with the 9000°C shouldn't be a massive problem.
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Well we actually do, it's treated as Boros transferring energy onto Saitama, which his normal strikes don't do as seen by the first punch.
Deku is still getting burned by Bakugo's explosions, he's just withstanding them better than normal people would. Against superior heat than that, he's definitely going to run into issues.
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Isn't that kidna just how punching works?
Ngl reading his profile the explosions don't even seem like his best feat. Tanking prolonged lightning strikes and superheated plasma seem better.
But yeah my point was mainly that Deku shouldn't just get vaporized by Boros' presence and he has more than enough stuff to maintain distance away from Boros if necessary which makes fighting on such a short stamina pool pretty complicated for Broros
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Nah, I'm talking about Boros placing his energy on another individual vs just punching
I don't think that scales anywhere, and the lightning feat was discarded for heat resistance iirc
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This has always been vague to me, but how much of a difference in heat is enough to severely burn? Because there's two ways you can look at this. Additive or multiplicative. Human body is 98 degrees, but we can get first degree burn from 111 degrees (which is only 13 degrees more), and 140 degrees for a third degree burn in seconds (Which is only a 42 degree difference). So if we go by that, a difference of a 1000 should basically just insta-cremate. But if we assume the gap needs to be several times higher to do smth, how do we know or assume when it burns?
Also, if the 9000 degree value is correct, it would be an issue because Kachon stated that Boros can instantly vaporize his ship which no-sells 9000 degrees (However, I am unsure of how legit this is. But it would mean he could vaporize Deku).
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Boros doesn’t even have 6000 c on his profile by the way, it’s just Kachon saying he does because it’s a higher value than Deku’s heat resistance
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Prove all of that. Give me the scan that says, directly, that the metal from Boros’s ship has a higher melting point than Tungsten.
You have actively lied in this thread to push this Boros Heat agenda because you don’t want him to lose, that is abundantly clear. None of the feats you talk about are on his profile, you never mentioned any of them in any prior Boros thread, and they come from no where.
Prove Boros’s ship has a melting point beyond Tungsten. I want the exact scan that says that. Being a stronger metal than any found on earth has NEVER been a direct indication of melting point unless that has been specifically what is being referred to with it being superior. By that logic, Deku’s Mid Gauntlets, which are made of a material that is stronger than any material on Earth specifically to handle his All Might level strength, would also be scaling above Tungsten with their heat resistance.
Boros’s ship doesn’t even have heat resistance on its profile.
I’d also like the manga panel of his ship entering Earth’s atmosphere and burning up, if you’d be so kind.
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The bare minimum work you could do, as an avid One Punch Man supporter, is have all this stuff you’re arguing on the profiles, but it’s not. It’s all just coming from no where because it’s the only way Boros wins. So you’re just saying whatever argument sounds the best and hoping people jump on it.
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Speed and Fa Jin's 5x are I believe.
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So it descends onto Earth. How can you prove it descends at a rate fast enough to catch the maximum possible heat from entry? It has controlled descent, its futuristic and alien, why are we assuming it descended in a manner similar to any that we on Earth know of?
Again, it being a superior metal =/= higher melting point.
“Much stronger than steel” ok so we should be scaling it above steel not tungsten. Tungsten isn’t mentioned at all on that scan.
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Also, that scan says the ship LITERALLY CAN TELEPORT.
It says that Boros’s ship appeared in atmosphere via Jump Technology. Did you even read that part?
It says that Boros’s ship appeared in atmosphere via Jump Technology. Did you even read that part?
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And the argument heated up again...
People, can we calm down please? It's just a discussion to see who wins, it's nothing serious, let's keep a cool head.
People, can we calm down please? It's just a discussion to see who wins, it's nothing serious, let's keep a cool head.
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No it's PIS as ONE needed to reference his old series with the 20 years =P
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i love how you and kachon both think 0.77c multiplied by 5 equals 1.68c for some reason.
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Ok so quote me where Rusty and Therefir ever mentioned of the existence of a 5x multiplier speed on Deku's current profile rn
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I feel like it's more so a matter of "jump technology ≠ teleportation" ngl
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You say this but Therefir is explaining why Deku's current profile speed isn't being multiplied by 5 while Rusty isn't even talking about the speed.
So where on Deku's profile rn is his speed being multiplied by 5.
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Why the actual hell are you mentioning me in this and when did I ever say or imply this
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"Speed and Fa Jin's 5x" ?
Please pull up a versus thread where someone argued Fa Jin was a 5x speed amp.
Also it isn't incorrect to say blitz gg because it IS a blitz
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Speed = one downgrade
Fa Jin's 5x = another downgrade
Those are 2 different things. What are you on about dude
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